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Atheism. Christianity.
Debate Score:47
Arguments:28
Total Votes:69
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Which belief system requires more faith?

Atheism.

Side Score: 25
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Christianity.

Side Score: 22
3 points

Atheism takes more faith. You have to ignore Biblical prophecy coming true in stunning detail.

Side: Atheism.
1 point

There are no Atheists. There are theists and those who revel like hogs in their sin

God doesn't have any place in their lives, so they just put the blindfold in and the earplugs in.

Side: Atheism.
1 point

Atheists try to say they have no faith. Then they turn around and ignore prophecies coming true, claim Jesus didn't even exist, and live on Religion forums to try and keep God from showing up by accident.

Side: Atheism.

Religions are a faith as in it takes a leap of faith to believe the tall tales contained in their doctrines.

Side: Christianity.
2 points

Hello N:

Atheism doesn't involve faith.. Chickens can't fly. To KNOW that, doesn't take faith either..

excon

Side: Christianity.
1 point

It always amuses me that Christians often pride themselves on their depth of faith as if it's a virtue, yet are willing to immediately turn around and say that atheism requires more faith when it's convenient. Please understand that I don't mean this in a derogatory manner; just consider the inconsistency.

Very simply, Christianity requires more faith because it requires any amount of faith. If you believe in a god, you do so without objective evidence, regardless of experiences you've had in the past that you've chosen to give your god the credit for. Atheism does not require faith, because faith by definition is belief without evidence, and Atheism is in fact nonbelief in a god or gods, or more accurately, the rejection of the claim that a god or gods exist. Ergo, the question of "faith" of an atheist does not lie on their choice to be an atheist but of what the atheist actually does believe, whether in science or something else or nothing at all. If said atheist actually does believe in science, and is constantly questioning these beliefs and willing to change them as new evidence arises as per the scientific method, then this is in fact belief with evidence- therefore, not faith, but knowledge.

Side: Christianity.
FungusOfHam(4) Disputed
1 point

And yet with all that, you prove God is always on your mind.

Side: Atheism.
SexyJesus(211) Disputed
0 points

I question how you came to that conclusion? The fact that I reject the claim that any gods exist is unrelated to what is "always on my mind". In fact, it would more so indicate that I find any god inconsequential and not worth my time; although the God Fan Club is occasionally pretty amusing. I usually focus my attention on reading, physical fitness and guns.

Side: Christianity.
Zuul(69) Disputed
1 point

The most inconsistent group on Earth are liberal atheists. They hate religion yet love Islam. They claim tolerance, yet hate half the country.

Side: Atheism.
TheMask(131) Disputed
0 points

I am a liberal atheist who hates Muslims and hates the WHOLE country.

Side: Christianity.
-1 points

And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come. (Matthew 24:14)

http://biblehub.com/matthew/24-14.htm

I tell you, he will see that they get justice, and quickly. However, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth?"

(Luke 18:8)

http://biblehub.com/luke/18-8.htm

Don't be fooled by what they say. For that day will not come until there is a great rebellion against God and the man of lawlessness is revealed--the one who brings destruction.

(2 Thessalonians 2:3)

http://biblehub.com/2thessalonians/2-3.htm

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"The second beast comes "out of the earth" and directs all peoples of the earth to worship the first beast (the Antichrist). The second beast is described in Revelation 13:11-18 and is also referred to as the false prophet. The two beasts are aligned with the dragon (Satan) in opposition to God."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TheBeast_(Revelation))

Allah Most High states, “We shall bring forth for them out of the earth a beast that shall speak unto them for they did not believe in our signs.” [Quran 27: 82]

http://www.discoveringislam.org/daabba.htm

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(Speaking of Jesus Christ)

On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written: king of kings and lord of lords.

(Revelation 19:16)

http://biblehub.com/revelation/19-16.htm

Allah's Apostle said, "The most awful name in Allah's sight on the Day of Resurrection, will be (that of) a man calling himself Malik Al-Amlak (the king of kings)."

Sahih-Al-Bukhari Bk 73; Num 224

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Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised?

(2 Peter 3:3-6)

As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. "Tell us," they said, "when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?"

(Matthew 24:3)

Jesus said, "At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other."

(Matthew 24:10)

Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold.

(Matthew 24:12)

But the one who stands firm to the end will be saved.

(Matthew 24:13)

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They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law."

(Luke 12:53)

"Families divided by Brexit: 'Part of me just wants to avoid my dad completely ..."

https://amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/dec/21/families-divided-brexit-rifts-arguments-avoid-dad

"Families divided in the Trump era: 'I didn't talk to my parents for weeks ..."

http://m.startribune.com/families-divided-in-the-trump-era-i-didn-t-talk-to-my-parents-for-weeks/415957734/

"Once more, American families face seemingly unresolvable differences. The election of Donald Trump has divided my own tight-knit family to the point of ..."

https://www.google.com/amp/www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-election-hillary-clinton-half-my-family-torn-apart-hatred-animosity-between-racism-a7424651.html?amp

"I haven't spoken to my family since they elected Trump as President..."

https://www.google.com/amp/www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-us-election-win-one-year-white-nationalists-nazis-racism-torn-apart-a8043451.html?amp

"Recent polls have confirmed that Americans are feeling bitterly split. A Gallup poll conducted just after the 2016 presidential election found 77 percent of ..."

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.history.com/news/just-how-divided-are-americans-since-trumps-election

"Donald Trump Is Tearing Families Apart, It's Irreversible"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.elitedaily.com/news/donald-trump-tore-family-apart-damage-irreparable/1765379/amp

"Now you can get unfriended for not hating Trump enough" | New York Post

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/ 2016/12/15/now-you-can-get-unfriended-for-not-hating-trump-enough/amp/

The point?

The beast system (Islam, according to itself), and much of Atheism unite at the exact time against Christianity at a time when Syria is reduced to ruins. And this happens at a time when Jerusalem is divided into thirds (it is). And this all happens when Christians are mass genocided and beheaded (happening). This all according to the end times claim of the Bible. That is exactly what is happening now.

Side: Atheism.
SexyJesus(211) Disputed
2 points

Well, holy ballsack. Quotes from two different bedtime stories misconstrued as having similar meanings and bitter family disputes. That latter one's definitely not something that's happened continuously throughout history.

Tell you what, you want to waste your life preparing for a doomsday that will never come just like every other Christian doomsday prophet, have fun. But that's your problem, so go do that in your own corner.

Side: Christianity.
1 point

If by atheism you mean the belief that no deity exists and if by faith you mean believing something without evidence:

It depends on why someone believes something. If you believe there is a god (or that there isn't) based on some sort of argument then it isn't really a matter of faith, it is a matter of reason. The only faith involved might be in one's own ability to reason, which is true of both sides.

If your belief isn't based on argument but rather a feeling (or something irrational) then it takes a big amount of faith either way.

Most sensible atheists (to the best of my knowledge) don't go around arguing that there is no deity, they just argue that it is irrational to believe in one. This doesn't require much faith.

Side: Christianity.
0 points

While I am a Theist who believes in a Pagan god(dess), I admit that it takes more faith than atheism does.

Any religion requires believing beyond what is directly sensed or known.

Side: Christianity.
0 points

I agree. But then, an atheist needs to have faith in science and the human ability to find answers to life and other phenomena .... "believing beyond what is directly sensed or known", but being open minded about everything sensed or known.

Side: Christianity.
Cyclops(52) Disputed
2 points

Have faith in science, then claim there are 71 genders and deny that tribalism, packs, and being suspicious of those not in the pack aren't Darwinian survival skills.....

Side: Atheism.
Mingiwuwu(1237) Disputed
0 points

No they don't. It is simply that there's nothing else to rely on with any less faith that leads them to trust in science and current leading theories there.

Side: Christianity.
0 points

I think that all the popular religions have long since been proven to misguided nonsense.

The long winded nebulous scriptures were written by the well meaning academics of their day who were trying desperately to find answers to the great mysteries of the cosmos without the scientific knowledge we have acquired through advances in technology.

Due to the scientist's inability to offer a credible explanation for the Big Bang I do not accept this as an accurate account for the creation of the universe.

My skepticism regarding the Big Bang combined with my belief that the existence of earth could not possibly have been due to the coming together of countless trillions of disorientated atoms which accidentally constructed earth, the cosmos and everything therein.

So, I am left with the belief that there must be; a Creator, an architect who created everything.

I haven't any idea what form this Creator takes but they must be around.

Side: Christianity.