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Christianity/ Holy Bible Big Bang Theory
Debate Score:100
Arguments:79
Total Votes:112
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Which do you believe in? Christianity or The Big Bang Theory?

Christianity/ Holy Bible

Side Score: 45
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Big Bang Theory

Side Score: 55
6 points

I believe what the Bible says about how the earth was created. I don't believe in the Big Bang Theory and how the earth got created by itself.

In order for the earth to be created there has to be a creator. We should accept the fact that in Genesis 1:1 That God made the heavens and the earth and trust what God told us in His Word.

Side: Christianity/ Holy Bible
ricedaragh(2500) Disputed
3 points

But his word is full of contradiction, how can I be sure that what he's telling me is right?

I mean, I fully adhere to the bible myself, but I get confused, can you explain to me how plants can survive days without light, and why I don't have to set fire to livestock anymore when I give my neighbor the stink eye.

Far be it from me to judge the will of the almighty, cause he loved man so much that he decided to flood the earth for a year, and kill possibly millions including children, the elderly and the mentally retarded, but in his infinite wisdom decided to ask an old coffin dodger to alone hand build a wooden boat of the dimensions never before or again seen by man to house billions of animals for an entire year, it's cool that all the oxygen requiring plants lived under there too and that all the displaced sea creatures just found their way home.

Yay God!

Side: Christianity/ Holy Bible
Srom(12201) Disputed
1 point

But his word is full of contradiction, how can I be sure that what he's telling me is right?

Nope His word is not full of contradictions. Archaeologists confirmed that the Bible isn't contradictory because they found places that were mentioned in the Bible and found coins bearing King Herod's name and also other artifacts that relate to the Bible.

I mean, I fully adhere to the bible myself, but I get confused, can you explain to me how plants can survive days without light, and why I don't have to set fire to livestock anymore when I give my neighbor the stink eye.

God made the earth but the earth was formless and then he put in light and separated it from day and night and then created everything else with it.

Far be it from me to judge the will of the almighty, cause he loved man so much that he decided to flood the earth for a year, and kill possibly millions including children, the elderly and the mentally retarded, but in his infinite wisdom decided to ask an old coffin dodger to alone hand build a wooden boat of the dimensions never before or again seen by man to house billions of animals for an entire year, it's cool that all the oxygen requiring plants lived under there too and that all the displaced sea creatures just found their way home.

You mustn't read Genesis about why God decided to flood the earth. God flooded the earth because many wicked people were on this earth and Noah was the only righteous man and his family. Noah didn't take 2 of each and every single animal to the ark. He took most of the little animals ( 1 male and 1 female) to go to ark.

Side: Big Bang Theory
3 points

Right on! Something can't come from nothing! That is where God comes around

Side: Christianity/ Holy Bible
Cynical(1946) Disputed
1 point

Using your logic, then: Who/what created God?

Side: Big Bang Theory
Kingly342(29) Disputed
1 point

If something can't come from nothing, then how was god made?

Side: Big Bang Theory
GoneFishing(126) Clarified
1 point

If only i could remember what my Philosophy Professor said in response to this. Blew. My. Mind. Ill see if i can dig it up.

Side: Christianity/ Holy Bible
Srom(12201) Clarified
0 points

God can't be made. He is an eternal being, and an eternal being doesn't need to be created.

Side: Christianity/ Holy Bible
1 point

Hey the universe just does not make its self on its own there has to be a creato r and thats simply it God is the answer to all.

Side: Christianity/ Holy Bible
GenericName(3429) Clarified
1 point

So does everything have to have a creator? Absolutely everything?

Side: Christianity/ Holy Bible
2 points

Does something come from nothing? Even if you believe the big bang theory, in order for the theory to work, you will have to accept that space was already self-existent. Matter occupies space, and particles such as protons, neutrons, and electrons would also have to exist in order for the big bang to work. So given this who created space? And those particles? God!

Side: Christianity/ Holy Bible
ricedaragh(2500) Disputed
2 points

Does something come from nothing?

Nobody knows, and nobody that knows what they are talking about says it does.

in order for the theory to work, you will have to accept that space was already self-existent

The theory teaches that space began in the singularity, not the other way around, space and time are co-dependent, and do not exist without each other, so at t=0 space does not exist.

Matter occupies space

Not always, what then is a vacuum.

, and particles such as protons, neutrons, and electrons would also have to exist in order for the big bang to work.

How so?

So given this who created space?

Why does it have to be who?

God!

Where did he come from? How did he do it? What is he made of? Can something that exists outside of space and time create space and time? If he created space then he created time at the same time and is thus subject to the laws of space time.

How can you offer a hypothesis with such strong conviction without means to at least draw some form of mathematical conclusion?

Side: Big Bang Theory

This argument on science versus religion has not yet been adequately evaluated. Although science and religion clash in its various forms and stories (theories), science and religion can coexist and have done so for thousands of years. Sme of sciences greatest minds including Galileo and Copernicus were deeply religious people. I agree with one of galileos statements where he basically states that science is wonderful because it shows off gods greatest creations. I do believe in the bible and am Mormon Myself.

Side: Christianity/ Holy Bible
1 point

God put us all on this planet. God knows how everything was made. The big bang theory is full of people who are stating WHAT THEY THINK HAPPENED.

Side: Christianity/ Holy Bible
1 point

The big bang theory is full of people who are stating WHAT THEY THINK HAPPENED.

Correct. It's what they think happened based on all the evidence they found.

You don't seem to have any guesses, you are absolutely sure in your position. So, why you are so sure? How do you know that "God put us all on this planet?"

Side: Big Bang Theory
EchoNova1(21) Disputed
1 point

OK. So..... I'll assume you dont believe there is a God. Correct me if i'm wrong, but Simple Question = Simple Answer. So i'll put it like this:

1. Throughout history, in all cultures of the world, people have been convinced there is a God.

2. The complexity of our planet points to a deliberate Designer who not only created our universe, but sustains it today. Many examples showing God’s design could be given, possibly with no end.

3. Mere “chance” is not an adequate explanation.

4. Humankind’s inherent sense of right and wrong cannot be biologically explained.

5. Don't you think its funny how God is not to be put in the field of science.

Should I go on?

Side: Christianity/ Holy Bible
GoneFishing(126) Disputed
1 point

And in the next 2 thousand years the evidence will change, this is one thing that is always found to be consistent within science.

Side: Christianity/ Holy Bible
0 points
Side: Christianity/ Holy Bible
ricedaragh(2500) Disputed
3 points

That is neither a description of The Big Bang theory or Atheism

Side: Big Bang Theory
Axmeister(4317) Disputed
2 points

If you're looking for real descriptions of things, your at the wrong debate. as you can see many people on the other side aren't really taking this seriously.

Side: Christianity/ Holy Bible
anachronist(889) Disputed
2 points

Christianity:

The belief that there was a super wizard dude who came from nothing, who made nothing magically explode for no reason, creating everything, which he arranged into complex life forms, who say there complexity requires creation, while at the same point forgetting that their deity is infinitely more complex.

Most of us either admit to having no idea about the origins of the universe, or go with the most likely option that there was no "start" to the universe, as time only exists within our universe.

Side: Big Bang Theory
zico20(345) Disputed
1 point

please, get out of the stone age. It has been proven that the universe has a start. Atheists used this age old excuse for centuries before the big bang was conceived. Accept it.

Side: Christianity/ Holy Bible
9 points

This should be a Creationism V Big Bang Theory debate, not Christianity V Big Bang Theory, because they aren't mutually exclusive. And yes, I believe in the Big Bang Theory over Christianity, as it has logical evidence supporting it. Christianity does not.

Side: Big Bang Theory
Emperor(1348) Disputed
1 point

Well, you can't really have an actual debate.

One is a belief system, the other is based on scientific evidence and research.

It's like trying to prove Santa Clause vs Thomas Jefferson.

It's clear which one is true, but some people still believe anyways.

Side: Big Bang Theory
Micmacmoc(2260) Disputed
1 point

I don't actually believe in either. I know that there is a lot of evidence for the Big Bang Theory but I find it so difficult to believe that the entire world came from nothing. I am aware how this is probably the most likely cause, but there are some things that the Big Bang theory does not explain, such as why particles actually exist. Causing a big explosion is one thing, but there are several other unanswered questions that neither theory can really explain. Therefore I have accepted that I do not know how the universe was created.

Side: Christianity/ Holy Bible
2 points

The Big Bang has more scientific evidence, and facts that support it. I mean really, what are you going to believe? A 2,000 year-old book, or scientific evidence?

Side: Big Bang Theory
2 points

I'm in my last year of highschool, I remember my teacher explaining to us in year 7 that the adam and eve story was just a way of explaining how everthing was made and that not many people still believed the story. But if one part of the bible was just a story, how do we know the rest isn't as well? Science is based on fact and proof, its not an opinion or belief, whether you choose to believe it is your opinion.

Side: Big Bang Theory
GoneFishing(126) Disputed
1 point

Science is a method to understand our universe. As science (methods) advance, so does our understanding. What I'm saying is that, all the "science" that existed 300 years ago, has been mainly built upon or disproved. What was accepted as fact then, is no longer today. All of which at that time, was based on fact and proof. With this in mind, how is this (past and present science) any more reliable than what the bible is saying?

Side: Christianity/ Holy Bible
1 point

Because science is able to be proven now rather than being thought to exist. Years ago many "facts" were simply guessed. Now we can prove our facts to be true with simple science. The bible however was written by men who believed in a god.

Side: Big Bang Theory
GenericName(3429) Clarified
1 point

Because science is willing to admit when it is wrong, which gives the new findings more legitimacy. When one starts with claims that they refuse to admit might possibly be wrong, said claim tends to lack legitimacy next to claims that are willing to admit fallibility.

Side: Christianity/ Holy Bible
2 points

Ok people, this is a false dichotomy. I only have the Big Bang Theory because that is the only selection choose against the evil tyrant faith. The truth is that there is more that just two choices. The beginning could have been done by millions and millions of different extraterrestrial tribes from other universes.

Side: Big Bang Theory

Christians can believe in the big bang theory as well as atheists, and atheists don't have to believe in the big bang theory.

Right, so, evidence for the big bang. Hopefully you paid attention in high school science classes!

So, there's this thing called the doppler effect. The doppler effect is the perceived change in frequency caused by a wave emitter moving towards or away from the observer. When the emitter is moving towards you, the frequency of the waves becomes higher due to compression, and when the emitter is moving away from you, the frequency becomes lower, as the waves are being stretched out.

We can observe the light coming from our sun, and map on the visible light spectrum which segments are blocked by hydrogen particles in the sun. When we look at the same light coming from distant stars, we see that the light is what we call red shifted which means the frequency of the light being emitted by the stars is lower than it was when it left the stars. We know from this that everything is moving away from us, meaning that the universe is expanding. We can also observe that, the further away a star is, the more the light is red shifted. This means that the further away something is, the faster it is moving away from us, showing further proof for an expanding universe.

We know, thanks to the BVG theorem, that if the universe had a rate of expansion at any point greater than one, the expansion must have had a beginning. This beginning stems from what we call a singularity, which is something we have almost no understanding of.

We have also observed what is called cosmic background microwave radiation, which is everywhere. The only current explanation for the random energy dissipating throughout the entire universe is that it is left over energy from the original expansion seen in the big bang.

So, what evidence do you have for a static creation?

Side: Big Bang Theory
1 point

Don't forget the fact that all the galaxies are moving away from ours.

In several billion years, in the spot that the Earth is in now (within the Milky Way), you could look in all directions and it would be impossible to see another galaxy. A citizen in an artificial planet of the future (Earth would be incinerated by the Sun by then) would only know that other galaxies existed because of ancient books describing their movement. It might sound biblical, but no, there would also be plenty of photographic proof of galaxies as well.

Side: Big Bang Theory
1 point

In addition to substantial evidence, it also is pretty logically sound.

My biggest concern about it cannot be answered yet, so I'll wait to see if we change the Big Bang Theory a wee bit or of we gain new information and comprehension of it's exception. Either which science will do in time.

That's what is awesome about science, it's self-correcting.

Side: Big Bang Theory
1 point

The notion that everything came from nothing is an extremely common fallacy used by creationists to disprove the Big Bang Theory... The material that cause the Big Bang was always there, light elements like Hydrogen and Helium, (which commonly are found in stars). Also stating the Earth was created by God 6,000 years ago is asinine... Stars in our universe that we see at night we see them as they were millions of years ago because they are billions upon billions of years old and the light must travel and takes many years because the universe is so vast. The Bible also states that the Earth had light before the Sun was formed since the Sun was formed on the 4th day and light was present if the 1st we know this to be impossible and knowing the Sun is our source of light have disproven God's creation of the Universe

Side: Big Bang Theory
GoneFishing(126) Disputed
1 point

Nothing is literally nothing. Something cannot come from nothing. So, how did these materials exist if God did not create these materials? An event that was by accident or spontaneous (like the big bang theory - w/o gods help), has no intelligent design. With no intelligent design, nothing has any purpose at all. With no intelligent design, how do most humans throughout the world have similar moral compasses?

Side: Christianity/ Holy Bible
GenericName(3429) Clarified
1 point

Nothing is literally nothing. Something cannot come from nothing.

Which means that God cannot be nothing, and therefore God had to come from something. Where?

An event that was by accident or spontaneous (like the big bang theory - w/o gods help), has no intelligent design.

There's a large number of people out there who believe that the Big Bang was simply God's method of creating the world. It would still be spontaneous, and for all we know it might have been an accident (unless you adhere to a more Christian concept of God which requires omniscience).

With no intelligent design, nothing has any purpose at all.

Even with intelligent design it's possible that nothing has a purpose (at least in your context).

With no intelligent design, how do most humans throughout the world have similar moral compasses?

Evolutionary psychology. Species that exist within social groups almost always have unofficial "rules" (see: Morals) that help dictate social norms and allow coexistence.

Side: Christianity/ Holy Bible