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Which kind of shooting happens more often in America!

in both cases im referring to shooting without justification, but there was not room to say that in the positions .so justified shootings are ignored, we are only talking about unjustified shootings in america .

Cop shoots a black person

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Black person shoots a cop

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Here's how many cops were killed on duty in 2015: https://www.odmp.org/search/year?year=2015

Here's how many people were killed by the police in 2015: https://thinkprogress.org/heres-how-many-people-police-killed-in-2015-e9e78c890966#.shz3tcq17

The source doesn't show how many were black, hispanic, white or any other. But there are around nine to 11 times more people killed by cops than there are cops killed on duty, so I'm just gonna go ahead and assume, that more than 130 of those 900-1100 people were black.

Side: Cop shoots a black person
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
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You are gonna assume you will get good information from thinkprogress ? That is just laughable and more proof you are a Progressive that lives in a bubble !

Side: Black person shoots a cop
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

According to FBI numbers from 2014, about 90 percent of black homicide victims were killed by other black people. The “white-on-white” murder rate that same year — homicides in which a white person was killed by another white person — was 82 percent of all murders of white people.Jul 11, 2016

So by your assumption the 9 to 11 times rate works ?

Side: Black person shoots a cop
1 point

The sources I showed were not rates, it was total amount of incidents.

And plus this debate has nothing to do with white-white murder. It has to do with cops murdering black people, and black people murdering cops. Nobody mentioned white people, except you of course.

Side: Cop shoots a black person
KNHav(1957) Disputed
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This way of looking at comparison is strange to me.

1st off these are people engaged in criminal activity with some violence displayed.

The criminals are placing themselves in positions that would potentially draw a fire engagement by a trained police officer. Who is likely trained like a soldier yet with responses to the unananticipated.

And you think the count should be more equal?

This is a example of unreasonble illogical steered thought.

Side: Black person shoots a cop
1 point

I didn't say anything about equality. I just posted some data with numbers on how many are killed by whom.

Side: Cop shoots a black person
1 point

What difference does it make! There is TOO MUCH of BOTH! The big question seems to be "Why do our "boys in blue" seem to get away with it so often", when missing license plates and broken taillights are not crimes with a death penalty ... and neither is a boy playing with toy gun!

Sometimes "Justice" is REALLY blind!

I really like our police, I have a MA Chief of Police and a Deputy Sherriff in my family, but, when I had a job I was responsible for doing it RIGHT! (It involved a lot of danger, and millions of dollars). I HAD to be "responsible". Put a gun in someone's hands and THEY have to be "responsible"!

Side: Cop shoots a black person
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
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Black and Hispanic police officers are more likely to fire a gun at blacks than white officers. This is according to a Department of Justice report in 2015 about the Philadelphia Police Department, and is further confirmed that by a study conducted University of Pennsylvania criminologist Greg Ridgeway in 2015 that determined black cops were 3.3 times more likely to fire a gun than other cops at a crime scene.

More whites and Hispanics die from police homicides than blacks.12 percent of white and Hispanic homicide deaths were due to police officers, while only four percent of black homicide deaths were the result of police officers.

Side: Black person shoots a cop
KNHav(1957) Disputed
1 point

Because one is execution of law and the other is breakers of law.

And the few true racial incidences are not the nations problem they are the local problem which has several courts to tial the cases!

Its just like what they are doing now.

They dont like an election so they fight it

They dont like justice so they fight it

Seriously!

Side: Black person shoots a cop
AlofRI(3294) Clarified
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"Because one is execution.....," and the other is breakers of the law. The problem is that those "broken laws" seem to be broken tail lights, carrying an air pellet gun while playing, selling cigarettes on the street, or "looking" like a bank robber!

They don't like THAT type of justice, so they fight it!

SERIOUSLY!

Side: Cop shoots a black person
KNHav(1957) Disputed
1 point

Because one is execution of law and the other is breakers of law.

And the few true racial incidences are not the nations problem, not a federal problem. They are the local problems, judicial cases, which have several courts to tial the cases and appeal, with many different judges up the chain!

Its just like what they are doing now. So define justification. Is it just? And has justice answered? And has justice been accepted?

The public is the least just, because the public is already a tainted jury. They wouldnt even be accepted as jurors due to bias, yet society is in favor of "bias tainted justification"

They dont like an election so they fight it !

They dont like justice so they fight it !

Seriously!

Side: Black person shoots a cop
2 points

Because one is execution of law and the other is breakers of law.

Is it okay that the numbers of killings by cops is by far the largest in the US compared to the rest of the western world?

Side: Cop shoots a black person
1 point

Does it count when a black cop shoots a black punk gangsta nigga? Tell me nigga, does it count there homie boy?

Hey, I have a lullabye for you!

Sung to the tune of "Hush little baby, don't you cry, momma's gonna sing you a lullaby"

Hush little homie, don't say a word;

Ain't that a siren that I heard?

Police crackin' down on dope heads today,

Takin' baby momma's coke away.

Side: Cop shoots a black person
AlofRI(3294) Clarified
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WOW! The hatred just OOOZES out of you! NOT very Jesus-like (or even Saint-like!) YOU, and those Christians(?) like you are one reason I would never join the club! You are a consummate racist, and I think YOU will be visiting ME in that place you imagine is for the "sinners"! Well, maybe not. I could NEVER be as hateful as YOU!

Side: Cop shoots a black person
NowASaint(1380) Clarified
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The stupidity oozes out of you. .

Side: Cop shoots a black person
2 points

You're an idiot that drinks the sensationalist and race-baiting Kool-Aid that your Libtard media sloshes down your throat.

Neither of your options are the most common form of homicide in America.

Not even close.

The most COMMON Form of Killing---BY FAR!!--is Black on Black gun violence. Look it up.

White cop on Black perp deaths account for less than 1% of B on B crime.

Dipshit.

SS

Side: Black person shoots a cop
J-Roc77(70) Clarified
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Neither of your options are the most common form of homicide in America.

The question asked wasn't that one but whatever.

Side: Cop shoots a black person
1 point

i did not ask what is the most common form of killing .that was not the question .please answer the question .dipshit .

Side: Cop shoots a black person
2 points

Where there are gun-free zones you will find the most mass shootings.

Side: Black person shoots a cop
1 point

Blacks are more likely to kill cops than be killed by cops. This is according to FBI data, which also found that 40 percent of cop killers are black. The police officer is 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black than a cop killing an unarmed black person.

Side: Black person shoots a cop