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Andy Instig8or (aka Prodigee)
Debate Score:37
Arguments:22
Total Votes:40
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 Andy (10)
 
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Who Really Runs this Site?

Instig8or can just hack the site, delete whatever posts he wants and the real site owner doesn't seem to care? LOL! It does kind of make it all fun though, CreateDebate.com is like the wild west of the internet, anything goes!

Andy

Side Score: 13
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Instig8or (aka Prodigee)

Side Score: 24

Andy. But it really depends on who you ask. If you ask all the banned people I do. But if you as anyone that is on the site that is not banned they would say Andy...

Side: Andy
Hellno(17761) Disputed
2 points

Well, Instig8or did delete my argument on your debate, and your reply to me... go look. You can't delete posts can you?

Side: Instig8or (aka Prodigee)
1 point

Well, I would like to say the membership "runs" the site, but unfortunately, the running of the site takes time and costs money. Once again Prodigee has gone and done something which cost me both...but, that being said, he did find a feature which could be explored for his evil and nefarious purposes. That feature has been modified so he can't leverage it to delete member posts anymore. My apologies to those who were impacted. Please message me if he comes back and I will delete his account(s) with prejudice. If anyone knows who he is or where I can find him, please let me know as my lawyer is ready to slap a lawsuit on him!

Thank you for your membership!

Side: Andy
1 point

Well I did message you... on Tuesday? But I don't know if you ever got that message because EVERY message I've ever made, going back years, was wiped out. I can only assume that Prodigee did that too.

Side: Andy
3 points

I seriously don't know what i'll get from hacking this site.....

Side: Instig8or (aka Prodigee)
2 points

Way to go Virgin Boy! Andy doesn't care if you hack his site! Now... if you could only be as good at having sex as you are at hacking sites....

Side: Instig8or (aka Prodigee)
2 points

I suggest Andy files a complaint here:

https://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

And being that VB is in the UK:

http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/report_fraud

There is also a online chat service there where you can get advice.

If he has actually got hold of passwords and email addresses I am going to be very pissed off at Andy for not addressing the problem at all.

May I also suggest activating some code to retrieve his IP address - specific to his account that it isn't illegal - and use that to file a report. You could also then potentially pursue civil action for the damage he has previously caused to the site. If you need any help with UK law, send me a message. I would be more than happy to help in anyway I can.

Side: Instig8or (aka Prodigee)
1 point

I am extremely concerned that this member was able to do what he did and am further worried that the lack of security on this forum may go beyond what is obvious at the moment.

I feel that the elusive Andy may be no more than a name for a piece of robotic software which has been compromised without any means of ''upgrading' itself to meet the new threat.

I'm afraid that I cannot offer any technical assistance to remove this loose cannon on the site but as it is impossible to cancel membership the only option seems to be to stay and fight.

Any advise you could offer would be appreciated.

Side: Instig8or (aka Prodigee)
1 point

I had had the opportunity to file several reports with the FBI in the past. Absolutely ZERO have been selected for the FBI to follow up on.

Just to clarify, no login credentials are ever exposed. Also we do track IP addresses, but he uses an anonymizer so you can't trace him directly. The exploit had nothing to do with logging into an account, it had to do with leveraging the admin function of public and private debate communities to delete posts in the debates just like I do in the main community. We have modified the function to eliminate the ability for a community owner to delete posts in a debate associated with the main community (they will retain this feature for debates which are only in their community).

Best regards,

Andy

Side: Instig8or (aka Prodigee)
2 points

This is the third debate site I've been on in which one or more of the members were wielding power rivaling or surpassing the site owner. So it doesn't surprise me at all.

Side: Instig8or (aka Prodigee)
1 point

Best to give it a by ball from here on in I guess.

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Side: Instig8or (aka Prodigee)