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 Who are the Science Deniers ? (21)

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Who are the Science Deniers ?

When it comes to the Global Chaos Progressives say that those that don't believe it are Science Deniers !
But when it comes to a man being a woman or a woman being a man they then stand up as being Science Deniers !
Why is it Progressive want to deny science when it comes to being born a man or a woman ?
But yet they believe science when it comes to the climate and not the science of being born a man or a woman ?
The real Science Deniers are the totally confused Progressives that inhabit The United States !


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2 points

A man can have a sex change but the man was born a man. A woman can have a sex change but the woman was born a woman. No way Progressives can deny that science. They can try but if they do it is shown they are the "Real Science Deniers"

1 point

It's more of personal history than science, though.

So I don't understand what you're saying.

AlofRI(3294) Clarified
1 point

Where did you get the idea all scientists are "progressives"?? I would bet, without any fear of loss, that MANY vote conservative. Many of them, I am sure, believe differently than the conservative agenda spells out, but, they still believe in conservatism. The religiously guided branch of conservatism is not the ONLY branch, just like there are different directions for progressives. WE are not so apt to group ourselves and others as "all alike". That wouldn't be "progressive", things like that hold you back.

Progressives believe in the supremacy of science, and that, if climate change and gender dysphoria are "theories", so are gravity and the speed of sound.

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A scientific theory is something much different than what you seem to expect it to be.

Try searching it online.

outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

You Progressives believe in science when it comes to weather do you not ?

NicolasCage(505) Disputed
1 point

But no one denies that. Your argument is invalid.

Of course a transgender man was still born a woman. Nothing can change that. But they're a man now, and that's the whole point.

2 points

I'm of the opinion that "Science Denier", much like many other generalized blanket statements, is a derogatory term thrown around without any real meaning. One of the most crucial aspects of science is that it's not a package deal: just because you disagree with one scientific theory doesn't mean you're denying the validity of science itself. Therefore, labeling someone as a "Science Denier" for disagreeing with a single concept created by the scientific community (like, as the OP mentioned, Climate Alarmism and gender dysphoria) is completely inappropriate.

outlaw60(15368) Clarified
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Hate to break it to you but if you are born a man you have the package deal and if you are born a woman you have the package deal. That is science ! No denying that !

LichPotato(362) Disputed
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I completely agree. Just because gender dysphoria is based on observed fact doesn't mean people have to agree with it. Unfortunately in our society it seems that self-delusion is becoming quite popular.

Note - this post's status as "Disputed" is unintentional. I misclicked without realizing it, and can't edit the post's status.

2 points

You have just shown yet one more double standard from the Left.

There are literally thousands of double standards when it comes to political correctness.

Science tells us how our bodies are designed. It is a science denier to say that Homosexuaity is natural or normal.

But of course the Left ignores science deniers if they vote and give money to Democrats.

Cuaroc(8829) Clarified
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You have just shown yet one more double standard from the Left.

Coming from the king of double standards

outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

Where is the double standard there you Little Snowflake ? Science Deniers are you Progressives ! Now deny that !

Cartman(18192) Disputed
1 point

We are talking about transgenders in this debate, not homosexuals.

NicolasCage(505) Disputed
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It is a science denier to say that Homosexuaity is natural or normal.

Despite the countless studies which have shown that homosexuality is indeed natural and does not in any way fit in the category of mental illness?

And you call us science deniers? Blimey.

1 point

It is a science denier to say that Homosexuaity is natural or normal.

Okay, let's grant it for comfort of your idiocy that it is unnatural.

So what?

2 points

I'm not sure that anyone knows the precise nature of the link between mind and body.

The physical form of one's gender may not always be in harmony with the conscious perception of one's sexual orientation.

I would assume that when this freakish conflict occurs the confused person will have to follow the urges of their sexual desires, and maybe even make whatever ''adjustments'' are necessary to help them lead a life which they feel is normal to them.

This condition is yet another example of how nature's fallibility can prove to be most cruel.

When we encounter such cases I feel that understanding and acceptance should be the order of the day.

1 point

Which scientific studies are these "science deniers" ignoring? Point us to the scientific research.

outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

The climate is changing right ? But is Bruce Jenner a man or a woman ?

Cartman(18192) Disputed
1 point

"But is Bruce Jenner a man or a woman ?" is not actually science. What science do you think is being denied?

1 point

I'm very glad, outlaw, that you are not yet a terrorist, that I know of, because you are as radical in your own way as they are. You are clinging to the edge ... please don't fall!

outlaw60(15368) Disputed
2 points

I'm very glad you hang on the words of scientists when it comes to what is it Global Cooling,Global Warming and then Climate Change ? Is Bradley Edward Manning a man or a woman ? Tell me !

1 point

The premise holding your debate together is that being born with a particular gender's sexual organs automatically makes you then and forever a member of that gender according to science. That is not a science argument. That is merely a simple definition, and not necessarily of science origin.

In fact if you google simply "science explains homosexuality" you get a long list of very good references to science articles covering many potential explanations for why homosexuals and transexuals could exist. Here's simply one.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26089486

So we are not science deniers. Instead you are simply science naive.