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Who do you think is the Basketball second GOAT of all time?
Just for the record, I do not dismiss Kobe as being the GOAT and arguably as good or better than Jordan. Jordan however says that Kobe is better than LeBron, and so does most NBA players. The reason it is Kobe and Jordan is because when the game is on the line, if either Kobe or Jordan had the ball, you were afraid and all the had to be was in the building.
I watched the film of Kobe defending Jordan and LeBron, and both defending him. Jordan schooled Kobe when Kobe was 19, but Kobe learned. Jordan said that there are certain players that you know that trash talking does not work on them, Kobe was one and LeBron was not.
I watched Kobe's farewell game against Utah. They were staying that no playermin NBA history had scored 50 points in his farewell game. Well, Kobe came back from injury and at 37, he scored 23 points in the 4th quarter and 60 for the game. Kobe became the first player to score 50 points or 60 points in his final game.
The only reason that I did not do a Kobe and Jordan comparison was to first demonstrate that LeBron is not in the conversation. Even when asked LeBron admitted that a Kobe is the best of this time and the best since Jordan. LeBron just shook his head. Here is why. When Kobe had a chance to guard Jordan, he asked Jordan to teach him and was a student. Kobe came away and said that guarding Jordan, he realised how fundamentally sound Jordan was. Kkkbe then surpassed Jordan in fundamental soundness.
Lebron James. If you want to be in Jordan's company, no pouting, no excuses, always ready to take the shot, no plays off, and your defense must be stellar. And then score 35 points a game and go 6-0 in the finals.
Actually, Jordan pouted way more than Kobe and made plenty of excuses. Yes, Jordan took off plays and more than Kobe. Kobe was actually a better defender. Kobe was the first reserve to make the starting All-star team and first team defensive team.
You are making an argument for Jordan and what LeBron needs to do. It is too late for LeBron to go 6-0 or even 5-2 like Kobe.
Actusl,y, I am old enough to have watched Jordan, Kareem, Bird, Magic, Dr J, George Gervin, Worthy, Pistol Pete, Earl the Pearl and Walt Frazier. But, we are discussing Kobe and LeBron, not MJ.
I doubt that. That would make your previous posts bullshit. Nevertheless, if that were true, which it isn't, you would know that Lebron isn't worthy of loosening Jordan's shoe laces.
Then are you confused. You keep voting that LeBron is better than Kobe.
Kobe and Jordan are 1-2, because they both never said it is just a game.
Kobe and his torn Achilles and Jordan and his massive flu game.
LeBron said after this finals, that he left it all on the floor and he did his job, but the team did not so they lost. Kobe and Jordan would never say that.
What is it like to believe in a magic nothing that manifests magic somethings. Then I laugh and realize, no one is that stupid. Oh wait. Who needs a chicken to get an egg? Vote atheism for giggles.
Yeah I bet you do, 'how can I be on this 24/7 and get gagged this easy...'
I'm not to sure about your version of 'magic'. but to me it's pulling the wool over peoples eye's for a profit and a pedestal, pretty similar to christianity...
As for the chicken and the egg, I have a rational scientific explanation, what about you?
I can show you Jordan making excuses, but we are talking about Kobe and LeBron. When it was Magic and Bird, Jordan made excuses. Jordan made excuses about his team mates until Phil got there.
I don't remember Jordan making excuses, nor can I find them in any google or youtube searches. Nevertheless, when Jordan and Bird were at it, Jordan was a rookie. Lebron is in his 30's.
