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Jesus Santa Claus
Debate Score:57
Arguments:22
Total Votes:76
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Who does Christmas really belong to?

Jesus

Side Score: 38
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Santa Claus

Side Score: 19
4 points

Although it is true that Santa owns the Christmas season, as you can clearly see from this video Jesus kicks Santa's ass!

Santa VS Jesus - Christmas Holy War 
Side: Jesus
3 points

Jesus has part of his name in the title of the holiday. 'nuff said.

Side: Jesus
1 point

It belongs to the person it was named after and all who believe in the Christ Child...Jesus Christ. It is His birthday that is celebrated. Now if you don't like that or cannot accept it, then find yourself another holiday during the season you can latch on to. Christmas IS Christ-Time

Side: Santa Claus
Warlin(1214) Disputed
2 points

Yeah, that's... what I said. In less words anyways. I don't understand why you're being so savage about this??? Something getting to you?

Side: Jesus
DaWolfman(3321) Disputed
1 point

Kukla that is what he said, he said it belongs to Jesus since his name is in the holiday itself.

Side: Jesus

How can anyone downvote this arguement when the same thing being said incurs a +4??

Side: Jesus

Christmas does originate with the birth of Jesus but Christmas also means Santa Claus.

Side: Jesus
5 points

It belongs to both. And to pagans, who started many of the traditions with their winter soltice, and to everyone who celebrates it. Christmas means different things to different people. Oh and, unfortunately, it also belongs to walmart. X_X

Side: Both and more
3 points

No one, because there's no legal rights to days of the year.

I think though, even though the timing of the holiday, and the way it is celebrated are almost exclusively pagan, Christians have laid claim to it almost completely.

Kind of like planting your flag on the moon, it's there, but who gives a sh-t.

Side: no one
2 points

I'm with you. This is not the type of thing you can relate possession to. I'm not going into the philosophy of possession here though. That's a much different debate.

Side: no one
2 points

The mass of christ?

The mass of christ is an invention of the Roman Catholic church to proselytize pagans whose rituals coincided with the winter solstice. Hence, that is why the mass of christ is at or near the winter solstice.

That is an historical fact of the origin of christmas.

The term "christmas" doesn't exist in the Bible. And prior to approx. 300 a.d. the mass of christ was unheard of, let alone an idea within the clergy of Rome.

Key note: Any form of worship that the scriptures don't authorize is idolatry.

Unlearned questions like the one of this debate deserve the respect that is due ignorance.

Side: The catholic church owns christmas
2 points

you absolutely correct about the whole winter solstice thing, but i highly doubt that jesus would look down and say " hey! they're giving gifts to eachother and worhiping me! stop it!"

Side: Jesus
Warlin(1214) Disputed
3 points

Bro, Jesus doesn't want people worshiping him at all. You don't get it. He was the humble guy who lived his life doing all he could for other people. You know, even if he wasn't the son of god he died a pretty gruesome death to prove a point about human bitterness and how people with powerful egos can make the innocent suffer.

I think what he would want is for people to just get along you know, and not be dicks to each other. I think on his birthday people should just have a hug fest and then confess a bunch of stuff. Then we can have present fest on New Years.

Side: Jesus
2 points

when we decorate for christmas, do we put images of jesus all over and have him in our malls hugging our children, or santa?

Side: Santa Claus