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Holy Roman Empire Muslim Empire
Debate Score:14
Arguments:13
Total Votes:15
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Who is at fault for the Crusades?

Who is at fault for the many years of war that followed?

Holy Roman Empire

Side Score: 6
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Muslim Empire

Side Score: 8
2 points

The Catholics were the ones who went on the Crusades looking for the Holy Land. Whether or not the Muslims had anything to do with it I do not know.

Side: Holy Roman Empire
1 point

the crusades were a horrible religious clusterfuck and leaders on both sides used the faith of the ignorant to further their own selfish ends. end of story

i'm just posting on this side because it has fewer points.

Side: Holy Roman Empire
1 point

Although Muslim soldiers were attacking Christian pilgrims, the Crusaders did just bust in the gates of Jerusalem and killed the inhabitants of whole cities, so they were really at fault, using the "holy war" thing as a facade to hide their true brutality.

Side: Holy Roman Empire
1 point

Christians need to stop apologizing for the Crusades. We would all be under sharia law without them. The rise of the Ottoman empire was enabled by the reformation. The crusades were a response of the slaughter and enslavement of Christians and the destruction of their churches as Islam waged an endless war through out the holy lands. Their motives have been consistent.

Side: Holy Roman Empire
1 point

Christians. They destroyed their own religion, and take their pope as a god.

Side: Holy Roman Empire

Radical Muslims were terrorizing the country side making it unsafe for pilgrims ;)

Side: Muslim Empire
1 point

They attacked Israel. And had plans for Europe. The Catholic's responded fast and kicked their ass xD

Side: Muslim Empire
1 point

They attack and claim to be victims each time they are repelled and pushed back.

Side: Muslim Empire

I don't think the Muslims were at "fault" in their attempts to reclaim land, but as they instigated the conflict, they are responsible for the outbreak of the crusades.

Side: Muslim Empire
1 point

while the Muslims obviously instigated the conflict. the crusades were horribly done and a blunder and shame to Christianity. the pope that day led thousands to hell when he told them that all their sins would be forgiven by fighting a war. first of all the bible says clearly not to spread the gospel by the sword or to terrorize the populations they come in contact with. unfortunately both happened and were encouraged. but yeah, Islam was no better here, so don't think I'm some ignorant liberal. just upset at the fact of Christianity being used for wrong reasons.

but i will admit, the Teutonic knights had the freaking coolest amazing epic armor ever hands down.

Side: Muslim Empire

i agree becasue the christians killed children and women while the muslims did the same it still isnt fair

Side: Muslim Empire
1 point

Muslims tookover Jerusalem first. They slaughtered 3,000 Christians. They made the roads unsafe for pilgrims. They attacked Edessa bc sour grapes.They got what they deserved imho idk why people use the Crusades against Christians as examples of social injustice it was practically self defence and those Bible-bashers have done much worse since then.

Side: Muslim Empire
DEBATOR_King(9) Disputed
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The 3,000 christians the muslims slaughtered were all soldiers, and for your information the first people to respond to the popes call were Men, Women, and children. They travelled to the pope but on their way they Killed fellow christians and jews. I mean what type of Christians kill their own Kin.

Side: Holy Roman Empire