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Genghis Kahn Hitler
Debate Score:75
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Who killed more people

Genghis Kahn

Side Score: 43
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Hitler

Side Score: 32
1 point

Who killed more people

I don't like the choices.. The biggest killer of all in the whole wide world, was Columbus.. Something like 60 to a 100 million Native Americans kicked it when he drove up.

excon

Side: Genghis Kahn
2 points

I agree with your point.

When columbus discovered the continent, there were already millions of people living there and when the news spread in europe of a new continent, they all wanted a piece of that land and its resources. They basically killed millions and not only that they brought bacteria and diseases that completely destroyed huge civilizations but also it paved the way for a whole new world.

Was it right to do kill the natives and claim their lands and resources, probably not, was it a good thing though, in the long term probably yes.

Side: Hitler
LevinTV(141) Disputed
1 point

Excellent point. A conquistador representing the Spanish is responsible for a murderous land steal. We should definitely now let in all of those Spanish descendents as if we were fools.

Side: Hitler
Dreadnought(138) Disputed
1 point

A conquistador representing the Spanish is responsible for a murderous land steal. We should definitely now let in all of those Spanish descendents as if we were fools.

Firstly you idiot, Columbus was Italian.

Secondly you idiot, Spanish and Mexican aren't the same thing.

Side: Genghis Kahn
1 point

I agree with your point.

When columbus discovered the continent, there were already millions of people living there and when the news spread in europe of a new continent, they all wanted a piece of that land and its resources. They basically killed millions and not only that they brought bacteria and diseases that completely destroyed huge civilizations but also it paved the way for a whole new world.

Was it right to do kill the natives and claim their lands and resources, probably not, was it a good thing though, in the long term probably yes.

Side: Hitler
marcusmoon(581) Disputed
1 point

Hello Excon.

The biggest killer of all in the whole wide world, was Columbus.. Something like 60 to a 100 million Native Americans kicked it when he drove up.

He only landed on one island that had a much smaller population than that.

You can make an argument for Cortez and Pizarro killing millions because they were directly involved in those deaths, but blaming folks for unforeseeable actions of people far downstream is poor logic.

If you want to play that way, you end up having to blame BILIONS of deaths on whoever invented the boat.

C'mon, get real.

Side: Hitler
1 point

I believe Khan was in the million to two million range. The general number for the Holocaust is about 6 million.

Side: Hitler
Dreadnought(138) Disputed
1 point

The general number for the Holocaust is about 6 million.

Yes, but obviously this number is a myth. Have you ever looked into it to establish whether it is true? Or, let me guess, you were too scared to because of the high probability you'd get called a Holocaust denier, right?

“Six million” is not, and was never intended to be, a precise accounting.

https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/holocaust-remembrance-day/.premium-6-million-where-is-the-figure-from-1.5319546

Most of the Jews killed by Hitler were Marxists. Marxism itself was indeed -- according to Hitler -- a Jewish conspiracy invented to enslave Europeans. Isn't it strange then that the Holocaust was framed as a genocide against Jews on the basis of race (despite the fact that Jews are not a race, but rather the followers of an ancient Abrahamic religion), rather than a political genocide against Hitler's self-declared number one ideological enemy?

The Holocaust certainly happened in that Hitler killed a lot of people, but the possibility also remains that right wing Zionist Jews acting after the fact seized upon it and bent it to their own political narrative.

Otherwise, if this is not true, why then do we all robotically repeat the phrase, "6 million Jews" rather than "6 million communists"?

Side: Genghis Kahn
Mint_tea(3993) Disputed
1 point

And you believe even if that number is too high it still doesn't beat out Khan?

Side: Hitler
outlaw60(14566) Disputed
1 point

The Dummy speaks as to Jews being Marxist LMMFAO !!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: Hitler
marcusmoon(581) Clarified
1 point

Hi, Mint.

The general number for the Holocaust is about 6 million.

That was just the Jews. You left out 3 million Gypsies, a million gays, and a crapload (less than a million) of assorted religions, disabilities, and dissidents.

Side: Genghis Kahn
Mint_tea(3993) Clarified
1 point

Yes, I don't think it's a stretch to get to the number of 6mil or over. Nazi fanaticism didn't delegate itself just to murdering Jews.

Side: Genghis Kahn