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Germany Russia
Debate Score:33
Arguments:21
Total Votes:37
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Who would win in a one on one war Germany or Russia.

Germany

Side Score: 13
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Russia

Side Score: 20
3 points

Germany has leverage over Russia, Russia would be scared because Germany has supreme technolgy and better trainde men plus high moral. Russia however has the weather advantage because it's hard to advance through snow and ice plus freezing tempature. These were both shown in WWII. Final anwser: Germany

Side: Germany
3 points

If Germany was allowed to remilitarize they could easily win for the following reasons

superior Economy

Superior Technology

German miliary ww1 (18 million)

take out the nukes what else does russia have it is big but they only have 150 people and dropping if re armed Germany and Russia fought in 40 years or so my vote Germany

Side: Germany
1 point

I agree. A valid statement. If the nuclear weapons were removed and Germany were to have a big Army, Navy and Air Force again, they would probably take Russia.

Side: Germany
3 points

Well we are alone, and you are exactly correct. Germany leads europes econemy today and without them most of europe would be in famine. Maybe not britan because of the us but otherwise most of eastern europe.

Side: Germany
1 point

Deutschland has the best main battle tank in the world. It has also intechangeable battery system, the only tank of its class which has this capability. Plus, myself being an ex-nuclear scientist at CERN and having spent up to 150 hrs+ in the ATLAS control room, you russians better watch out: When I visited (IBR-2) Dubna near Moscow and Gatchina near St. Petersburg, I was thorougly impressed, your nuclear scientists are badly paid and are god-damm frustrated, they even are the kindest folks on planet earth, YET you guys never give them their due credit and never pay them what they deserve!

And this is what shall make the difference:

The Germans (I am one) are a very highly disciplined nation, not to say that the Russians are not, however, we have the willingness, the compassion and the very real determination to exist as a wonderful society as we deserve, and unlike others like 'People who honor murderers akin to the Zionist Jews Stalin and Lenin' (Aaah yes, someone will blurt out Hitler) who killed

65 million people for the sake of 'justice', just be very sure about your facts: There are most definately things which you 'experts' need to think about quite hard.

Side: Germany

They have lots and lots of nukes. Germany not so much...

But then again I maybe a bit bias.

Side: russia

Russia all the way. Even though Germany has the leg up in tech and economics, I think Russia would be able to pull it out of the hat. They have superior numbers, decent moral, and Putin. Who goes shirtless hunting... in the Russian wilds.

Side: russia

Russia still have Nukes from the USSR days, and also has the strongest military in the world, also the best intelligence since the Cold War.

Side: Russia
1 point

on comparing the men and material power , i vote for Russia, for eg, Russia has nearly 24000 battle tanks whereas Germany has less that 3000. though the technology of the Germans is superior to the Russians ,accept the fact that one tank cannot be at 8 places to defend the nation. Finally quantity matters in the sense of covering more area.

Side: russia
KaiserDenEU(11) Disputed
0 points

6 day war Israel's tank ration to egypt was 1:7 dont just count on numbers when it comes to a fight especially when its the 2nd best tank in the world and some of the greatest tank comanders ever

1 german tank leader destroyed over 200 enemey tanks in ww2 russia has nothing and with their population dropping by thousands every year soon there will be nothing to compare

Side: Germany
GenPaulus(96) Clarified
1 point

I am clearifying kaiserdeneu(10)'s statment. In WW2 the German tanks were by far superior I know wht he is talking about too. On the only a hundred miles maybe less from europes border 2 German tanks with help of their extreme tactical advantages of being well trained in radio one. They had a strategy of one tank being visable to Russians comming through a clearing, when they got through to try and shoot the german tank another german tank (partly hidden) killed them with the other visable and manuevering tanks help. It is amazing how people in numbers overestimate themselves.

Side: Germany
1 point

this is a joke right??? Russia is the second strongest miltiary force in earth, there is no way germany could win. plus recently the gerrmans have been to restricted by UN from having a large military to protect hemsleves from russia, china, or america

Side: Russia
1 point

In tech and economy, Germany has it. But Germany would just go BlitzKreig style like in WWII and stretch their supply lines. While the Russians, seem like they have an infinite amount of troops

Side: Russia
1 point

Germany would have won the war against Russia in world war II had it just been between Russia and Germany. However, Germany was also fighting a war against Great Brittain and the United States on the western front and Russia on the eastern front. If Hitler had won the war of Brittain, then and only then should he have attacked Russia.

When he announced his plans to attack Russia, even his generals were afraid.

You can not fight a war against Russia and the United States at the same time. If Hitler could of manipulated a way to have gotten Russia and the United States to have fought each other, Hitler could of stood his forces back until Russia had been defeated and then made his invasion.

Side: Russia
LevChyornyj(3) Disputed
1 point

@navydave Supporting Hitler??

Side: Germany
1 point

Why are people comparing the military current military situation to that of WW2? Nearly 3/4 of all German forces fought on the Eastern Front alone. Though Germany has a powerful military, today they are not overwhelmingly superior to any of there neighbours. Even France has an equal, if not superior military. I'm assuming neither country would have allies supporting them militarily. Russia has vast natural resources that could fuel a prolonged war against Germany, not to mention the stated manpower and logistical capability to carry out such an open war, which was part of it military doctrine since WW2. The Russian military is underestimated today due to the rough position the country found itself in the '90s and there is a misinterpreted belief that it is not as competent as it once was, with outdated equipment etc. Russia has the second or third largest military budget in the world, not to mention one of the largest, if not the largest stockpiles of artillery pieces in the world. This can be said for armoured vehicles and tanks as well. This of course is only there conventional firepower, not to mention the nukes...

Oh I almost forgot, Russia can just stop sending the gas and oil which account for 32 and 38% of the total European oil and gas imports...

Side: Russia
1 point

Why are people comparing the military current military situation to that of WW2? Nearly 3/4 of all German forces fought on the Eastern Front alone. Though Germany has a powerful military, today they are not overwhelmingly superior to any of there neighbours. Even France has an equal, if not superior military. I'm assuming neither country would have allies supporting them militarily. Russia has vast natural resources that could fuel a prolonged war against Germany, not to mention the stated manpower and logistical capability to carry out such an open war, which was part of it military doctrine since WW2. The Russian military is underestimated today due to the rough position the country found itself in the '90s and there is a misinterpreted belief that it is not as competent as it once was, with outdated equipment etc. Russia has the second or third largest military budget in the world, not to mention one of the largest, if not the largest stockpiles of artillery pieces in the world. This can be said for armoured vehicles and tanks as well. This of course is only there conventional firepower, not to mention the nukes. Russia also supplies Europe with at least 32% of its oil and 38% of its gas, which means they could weaken Germany's economy in wartime. Regarding Russia's demographic situation, the population has been on the rise since 2009...

Side: Russia
1 point

@odjok1 I couldn't of said it better

Side: Russia
1 point

I do think russia would win but still germany will put up a good fight with there technology. I can't believe I am choosing because I love germany and russia. I like germany more but yes russia would win.

Side: Russia

I think Russia would emerge victorious based on Russia's military strength.

Side: Russia
1 point

I feel like you guys are a bit angry with Russia because you're jealous of our tech, I may be a bit biased but we have numbers, but not much funds and neither do you, so you are siding with Germany but you're not sure because you say if Germany had a larger army, but truthfully we would win because experiments show, the Spetsnaz would win between the Green Berets and if we can beat America, we can beat you but again, i'm a little biased

Side: Russia