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That Skeptical Science link you posted is in favor of man made climate change. Did you post it as a contrasting opinion or did you think it supported the claim that volcanoes emit more CO2 than humans?
There is not science in the Climate Hoax ! The Left has been forecasting the end of the world since the 70's ! Your alive aren't you so where is the disastrous outcome of Climate Chaos ?
Theres literally time lapse footage of ice caps melting. The global temperature is measurably increasing at an accelerated rate. Have you heard of the greenhouse effect? It can be demonstrated in your own backyard. The more CO2 you have in the air, the more heat gets trapped. We are pumping tons of CO2 into the air right now. It's not hard to understand. You just have to take a second to care and not read propaganda from political sights.
The Paris agreement was a massive transfer of wealth from rich countries to poor countries, nothing more, nothing less. If the other 200 countries are so concerned about saving the planet they will find a way to reduce their emissions without US funds. The US has drastically reduced our emissions over the past 12 years and we will continue to do so. We do not need an agreement to do our part, we already are.
The USA contributes more CO2 than China. Overall, however, China contributes more greenhouse gas. That's from 2016 statistics.
China is, however, sticking to its promises. It just turned on the world's largest solar sea farm. America, on the other hand, is acting like a little worm and backing out of its responsibilities.
Idk about the Left, but anyone who knows the slightest about trees knows that CO2 doesn't suffocate them. Trees breathe IN CO2. We breathe it out. It's the opposite.
And the greenhouse effect has nothing to do with suffocating plants. Like I said, look it up. You literally have the internet at your fingertips right now. You can do it.
When you get nations like China to stop poluting and paying for other nations to cut their polution, we will talk. America will no longer be used and abused by bleeding heart environmentalists who scream the Sky is falling every year of my life.
Are you a total fool? China is the biggest poluter in the world and you sit there telling me that Americans should go it alone and fund the Left's environmental agendas which will have aboslutely miniscule results on lowering temperatures, putting our economy at a dissadvantage to China, India, and the world.
Until ALL nations get on board, this is a total waste of time. Why are Liberals such saps? Why do you constantly play right into the hands of dictators, terrorists, and nations who hate America?
We are no longer going to be the saps taken advantage of by world. Trump is putting America first and will have everyone pay their fair share in military spending as well as environmental spending, or we will get out.
Yes, China is a large polluter. That doesn't mean that we should not try to change how we do things simply because THEY haven't. What you want is the equivalent of playground logic. Until EVERYONE in the class does it, I'M not going to.
What I and other people who actually use their brain want, is an accord that might actually work! They have shown no evidence that cutting emmisions will do anything to fix our problem.
You live in a dream world if you think America setting an example will shame other nations into doing the right thing. ROFLOL, that is the same Leftwing lunacy that went on an apology tour and expecting evil nations to see the light.
Evil loves weakness. It thrives on it as we saw with Russia, ISIS, Iran, Syria, North Korea, etc. etc. etc.
These nations would love nothing better than to keep poluting, gain more trade advantages, while we cut our throats.
Will Liberals ever learn that evil does not care about fairness or doing the right thing. They are evil and lack any conscience when it comes to notions of human rights, or environmental concerns.
Wake up from your brainwashing of bleeding heart tree hugging activists. America has done more in stopping polution in our nation than most others nations, and we mainly did it without Liberal green house gas mandates from the Left. Free market technology is the answer as always. Not big government mandates.
We all know that cutting polution is good for our clean air and water.
What we are talking about from this accord does not do that! It hurts our economy and jobs and would do NOTHING to lower temperatures when all nations are not doing the same.
What we are talking about from this accord does not do that
And yet China signed the Paris accord. They have strengthened their resolve to try to negate their damage or at least reduce. Whether that happens remains to be seen, but they look better than America does right now.
Regardless, that doesn't mean we should not do our best to make our own country better.
You don't need to "capture" anything. Scientists just need to measure the CO2 in the atmosphere and determine how much of it comes from fossil fuels. You can tell which CO2 is from natural causes and which is made from the fossil fuels we produce because it has a different fingerprint.
"Here’s how scientists know. The same elements (i.e. same number of protons in the nucleus) with different mass numbers (arising from the different numbers of neutrons in the nucleus) are called isotopes. Each carbon molecule has six protons in the nucleus, but there are many different isotopes with varying numbers of neutrons in the nucleus.[10] Carbon isotopes from different sources are “lighter” (high negative value) or heavier (lower negative value). For example, carbon from ocean is the standard with a value of “0” while carbon from fossil fuels ranges from -20 to -32.[11] While atmospheric carbon has an average value of -5 to -9, it is becoming “lighter” over time as carbon from fossil fuels become more abundant in the atmosphere (Figure 1).[9,11,12]"
Not that you would read and understand any of that, but it's more there for other people reading this thread.
DING DING DING!!! That's the magic question that everyone should be asking. What can we do to fix the world? Well there are a few proposed solutions. The main idea is to minimize our carbon emissions. Most of the civilized countries in the world are on board. Only America with it's stupid politics is having issues with this.
There is no LEFT and RIGHT. It's an illusion to get your votes. The US is the most powerful military country. People want that power. The Left and the right dominate this decision. They want you to follow their party and get their own personally elected candidate into this position so they can CONTROL YOU. Notice how both sides disagree on literally everything? It's literally a divide and conquer strategy against the public. They own your ass. Quit listening to their BS.
Somehow science got put on the LEFT side and anybody on the right feels like it's their enemy now. It's pretty sad. Just like the left is afraid of protecting your own safety with guns. Politics is stupid my friend. Science is real. It's bigger than the stupid game the government is playing.
Carbon use is not going away and for you to accept that is a fallacy. Climate Hoax is just what it is a hoax. Fear Mongering from the alarmist has not proven to be true as of yet.
Of course it's not going away. Nobody wants it to go away. We just gotta chill out a little bit. We are recklessly pouring it into the atmosphere. It needs to be reduced. There are definitely other ways. It's not a hoax. People want you to think it's a hoax because they are making money off of what is going on now. THAT is the real secret.
Your argument is irrational. I never said to eliminate fossil fuels. Obviously it would take a very long time. But if we really wanted to, we probably could. We didn't used to use them.
You don't want to eliminate fossil fuels but government some how needs to control the use of fossil fuels ? Remember government profits from fossil fuels.
Yes the government needs to regulate the output of fossil fuels if we want to preserve this world. The current government is corrupted with corporations and people in power. But it's still a system. If there was a law passed, we would all need to abide by it. When I say the government is corrupt, I don't necessarily mean the system, I mean the people who are currently influencing its power.
Federal oil and gas resources provide an important source of energy for the United States; create jobs in the oil and gas industry; and generate billions of dollars annually in revenues that are shared between federal, state, and tribal governments. Interior reported collecting over $49 billion from fiscal years 2011 through 2015 from royalties and other payments. This makes oil and gas resources one of the federal government's largest sources of nontax revenue. Moreover, the April 2010 explosion onboard the Deepwater Horizon and subsequent oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico highlighted the importance of Interior's management of permitting and inspection processes to ensure operational and environmental safety.
Why does the government need to profit from oil and gas if fossil fuel is so bad ?
It's always about money. Money motivates everybody at the top. Every important decision is made based on how much money somebody can make. They don't give a shit about you or the planet. Everyone alive today will either be extremely old or dead before the effects of climate change become very severe. So in the meantime, they are going to make as much money as they can until they die because they don't give two shits about anyone but themselves.
If you honestly think that the government or the major corporations have you in their best interest, then they have done their job and fooled you. They put horrible things into your food and your water. They get you addicted onto medications that might not even solve the medical issues you have. They take away your right to defend yourself from them. They will torture and kill you if you start saying things you aren't supposed to. Its all about the business of money. Whoever has the money gets to make the decisions. And Oil makes BIG MONEY. People who genuinely care about the world do not stand a chance in the face of this machine unless we all stand together and fight it.
Tell me all about how government does not want to profit from fossil fuels when out of the other side of their mouth they are talking Climate Change ! The Double Speak is what you buy into because you don't know where to stand !
Double Speak? I haven't changed my stance. I know where I stand with this issue. I look at the science, not at all the BS news and politics.
It's obviously about money. Everybody wants the money. I wouldn't doubt that there are people on the Left who would profit from alternative fuels and are fighting for their paycheck too. But that doesn't change the fact that we are putting shit into the atmosphere. The reality is the reality. You need to look at unbiased scientific studies to know what is going on. Not reading stupid political articles by people who talk out of their ass.
First of all, this isn't a LEFT vs RIGHT problem. That's the biggest issue with everybody in America. They make it about politics. I don't give a shit about your political party and never did. I think both parties are equally as stupid and anybody who takes a side is getting manipulated.
We are talking about reality here. There are people all over the world who dedicate their lives to studying the atmosphere. They take samples all the time and measure their contents in a laboratory. Some of these people come from countries that have never even heard about the Left or Right wing BS that everybody seems to think is so important. They simply study the climate and say "Hey everybody, there is a major problem going on and I think we should fix it".
Why are the trees green? Are you serious? How about you take a few seconds and google the effects of climate change instead of trying to do the science in your head? If the trees weren't green, you wouldn't be around to see it.
There are 200 countries that want to do something about "man made" climate change ... at least the man made part of it! There are TWO countries that don't give a damn and ONE that seems to think "GOD will take care of it"! Syria makes little sense anyway, the other, America, at this time, has a GOVERNMENT that makes little sense! ( I might point out that less than 30% of America thinks climate change has NOTHING to do with MAN)! The 30% that watches Faux News, mostly! Yep! 30% of America is smarter than the rest of the world ... I don't know, but I'll bet that's less than 1.0% of the worlds population. Adding the rest of the worlds non-believers MIGHT bring it up to 2.0%! JEEZ, how did these American conservatives get SO SMART! ;-()
Oh, I don't go.. But, who needs sermons when we've got YOU?? Look. MOST of what you say comes DIRECTLY from the pulpit, and that's on PURPOSE, isn't it??
Look.. Whether you go to church, or hear sermons, or didn't participate in the debate, you're anti science. If you want me to believe that you DIDN'T learn that in church, go for it..
Words MATTER.. I didn't say you heard "sermons".. I said you LEARNED your anti-science stance IN church...
You UNDERSTAND my point.. I dunno WHO you think you're fooling by QUIBBLING about it. But, if you want me to believe that you're a science dude, I will.. But, you're gonna have to STOP coming down on evolution..
Words MATTER.. I didn't say you heard "sermons".. I said you LEARNED your anti-science stance IN churchi'd rather hear hard words with results than sugar coated words that destroy the Middle East, Europe, and the American economy and healthcare system through poor action.
If the church doesn't talk about sience or politics, which it doesn't, your assessment is not logical.
FRAUD you love the sermons of the Left about how the climate needs to be fixed but there isn't one Leftist that can say how government can fix the earth without taxation !
Nope. Never heard politics preached from the pulpit. Never heard Islam mentioned at the pulpit. Never heard science preached at the pulpit. Youtube is right there Con. It should be easy for you to pull up a bunch of these sermons and give us a demonstration.
