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Why I, Saint Now, Believe What I Believe.

Since some idiots here seem unwilling to acknowledge my answers, I'll spell them out in detail here where I can ban people who are ignoring what I'm saying and going off in their rants against God with insults and blasphemies.  I believe what I believe because of Jesus Christ the Son of God who is God in human form sent by God the Father to pay for our sins with His own blood and He is willing and able to forgive all who will repent of their sin and believe on Him in His resurrection and receive Him as their Savior.  Your only hope without God the Savior Jesus Christ is to escape punishment in death, a fool's hope and I don't know why anybody clings to such stupidity except they are too stinking proud to admit they are not as good as God and deserve to die and burn in Hell as sinners.


Now if you don't want to believe God has the right to execute you and leave you in the fire of Hell forever, then don't believe it.  Why you believe what you believe if you don't believe God loves you enough to do what He did for you in Jesus Christ, I don't know but it's dumb and you need to be saved from Hell.


http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/To_Clarify_Why_I_Believe_What_I_Believe

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Atrag(5448) Banned
15 points

You are a wolf in sheeps clothing. Whoever follows yoy is a fool. You judge people and tell them they are going to hell as well as calling them idiots. You are NOT a christian as anyone should understand the term. You are a SaintNowian working for your own pride.

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

You are obnoxious in stinky clothing. Get your stink out of here, and don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya. Tootles!!!

THANKS!!!!

I hope this helps!!!

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

You are obnoxious in stinky clothing. Get your stink out of here, and don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya. Tootles!!!

THANKS!!!!

I hope this helps!!!

PattyPlatano(96) Disputed Banned
1 point

Which do you think God disapproves of more? Being obnoxious or what you do? You are no better than the Jews that killed Jesus.

"So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her."

You accept Christ with your words but reject the holy spirit with your actions.

I believe what I believe because of Jesus Christ the Son of God who is God in human form sent by God the Father to pay for our sins with His own blood and He is willing and able to forgive all who will repent of their sin and believe on Him in His resurrection and receive Him as their Savior.

Actually, that's just a description of what you believe, not why you believe it.

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

Nothing else in the world makes sense. The Biblical world and life view is the only logical explanation of reality. I spent probably twenty years of continual time 24 hr days if you add it all together trying to find the truth in practically every religion and philosophy on the planet. Jesus Christ is the truth. God is true. You are the liar when you imply you cannot know the truth. I believe what I believe because it's true and when I realized it is true, I believed it. You can believe it but I guess you won't, and there is only one real reason you will not believe...it's because you love your sin more than life.

Stickers(1037) Disputed Banned
3 points

whoosh

You did not address, much less refute the claim that he made. And you assert that he does not believe because... Of his lifestyle choices? Do you know him personally? How would you know?

scylender(9) Clarified
2 points

And why is it the only logical explanation? Please explain more clearly why you believe that what you believe is any more reasonable than others beliefs.

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

I've answered everything, repeatedly. Just because you will not believe Jesus is God who loves you so much He died for you, and rose from the dead with power to forgive you all your sin and save you from Hell does not mean I have not answered.

http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/ To ClarifyWhyIBelieveWhatI_Believe

4 points

So just a suggestion but perhaps beginning a manifesto on what you believe that you want people to read, by saying that all whoo disagree with your opinions are idiots, isn't really the best way to garner attention?

I stopped reading after your first sentence.

I could really really really not care less about what you Believe.

You being a self righteous, deluded sanctimonious asshole and all.

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

I banned you so you will be better able to focus and actually read the OP. If you don't care what I'm saying, you don't belong here. Go say your stupid stuff somewhere else, go see if your god keeps you out of Hell.

scylender(9) Disputed
1 point

The point of this site is to debate. The point of a debate is to argue against someones own argument, not to ban everyone that disagrees with you.

KayneOfNod(318) Disputed Banned
1 point

I have an overwhelming desire to outline a "Neo Kaynite" manifesto...but like...If I successfully convince people that my world view is pretty chill, does that like make it a legit group that can get flak and I have to start defending the actions of others? Because that'd suck.

Saintnow(3684) Clarified
1 point

Do it in your own discussion here. This is about why I believe what I believe, not why you believe what you believe. I don't mind talking about your beliefs if at the same time we talk about my beliefs.

Most people in the world are already in agreement with your world view. It's the broad way that leads to destruction, and many there are who go in that way.

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

Since some idiots here seem unwilling to acknowledge my answers, I'll spell them out in detail here where I can ban people who are ignoring what I'm saying and going off in their rants against God with insults and blasphemies. I believe what I believe because of Jesus Christ the Son of God who is God in human form sent by God the Father to pay for our sins with His own blood and He is willing and able to forgive all who will repent of their sin and believe on Him in His resurrection and receive Him as their Savior. Your only hope without God the Savior Jesus Christ is to escape punishment in death, a fool's hope and I don't know why anybody clings to such stupidity except they are too stinking proud to admit they are not as good as God and deserve to die and burn in Hell as sinners.

Now if you don't want to believe God has the right to execute you and leave you in the fire of Hell forever, then don't believe it. Why you believe what you believe if you don't believe God loves you enough to do what He did for you in Jesus Christ, I don't know but it's dumb and you need to be saved from Hell.

Amarel(4879) Banned
3 points

What you basically said was "I believe what I believe because Jesus died for my sins".

That doesn't actually tell us why you believe this. I know you believe the King James Bible is the word of God, but you never say why you believe that. You said that God preserves his word therein, but that doesn't explain why God doesn't preserve his word in other books.

Whenever it comes to actually answering the question of why, you just say the person asking doesn't understand why and so you aren't going to tell them. If we knew the answer, we wouldn't be asking. If you had an answer, presumably you would provide it. I'm not sure you know why you believe the way you do. If you knew, you would have mentioned it by now, but you haven't. Your answer is likely "I believe what I believe because I am scared out of my mind of hell and of God but I am too afraid to say it"

You can ban me now. This post is sufficient.

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

Nothing else in the world makes sense. The Biblical world and life view is the only logical explanation of reality. I spent probably twenty years of continual time 24 hr days if you add it all together trying to find the truth in practically every religion and philosophy on the planet. Jesus Christ is the truth. God is true. You are the liar when you imply you cannot know the truth. I believe what I believe because it's true and when I realized it is true, I believed it. You can believe it but I guess you won't, and there is only one real reason you will not believe...it's because you love your sin more than life.

You are banned because you ignore my answers and then ask the same stupid questions I already answered.

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

You are banned because you ignore my answers and then ask the same stupid questions I already answered, and all you do is heap up insults on top of your stupidity. Your whole approach with me from the beginning has been insulting, except for the brief moments when you actually had me thinking you might have a tender heart. You're hared hearted and rock headed, and I've had enough of you.

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

Nothing else in the world makes sense. The Biblical world and life view is the only logical explanation of reality. I spent probably twenty years of continual time 24 hr days if you add it all together trying to find the truth in practically every religion and philosophy on the planet. Jesus Christ is the truth. God is true. You are the liar when you imply you cannot know the truth. I believe what I believe because it's true and when I realized it is true, I believed it. You can believe it but I guess you won't, and there is only one real reason you will not believe...it's because you love your sin more than life.

You are banned because you ignore my answers and then ask the same stupid questions I already answered.

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

Looks like your discussion of how to exercise your ignorance is trashed.....but don't worry, nobody in Hell will be able to read it.

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

Since some idiots here seem unwilling to acknowledge my answers, I'll spell them out in detail here where I can ban people who are ignoring what I'm saying and going off in their rants against God with insults and blasphemies. I believe what I believe because of Jesus Christ the Son of God who is God in human form sent by God the Father to pay for our sins with His own blood and He is willing and able to forgive all who will repent of their sin and believe on Him in His resurrection and receive Him as their Savior. Your only hope without God the Savior Jesus Christ is to escape punishment in death, a fool's hope and I don't know why anybody clings to such stupidity except they are too stinking proud to admit they are not as good as God and deserve to die and burn in Hell as sinners.

Now if you don't want to believe God has the right to execute you and leave you in the fire of Hell forever, then don't believe it. Why you believe what you believe if you don't believe God loves you enough to do what He did for you in Jesus Christ, I don't know but it's dumb and you need to be saved from Hell.

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

Looks like your discussion of how to exercise your ignorance is trashed.....but don't worry, nobody in Hell will be able to read it.

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

Looks like your discussion of how to exercise your ignorance is trashed.....but don't worry, nobody in Hell will be able to read it.

Jacobcoolguy(2433) Clarified Banned
1 point

I've noticed a lot of duplicate posts. Point whore much?

2 points

Why r their 2 create debat. symbols.....

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

It seems like your genes are controlled by the gene Dawkins wrote a book about, called "The Stupid Gene". You seem to be pretty much incapable of entering a discussion with respect for the creator of the discussion to focus on the OP, so I'll probably be ignoring you as your screenname requests and banning you without reading our posts.........and then maybe I'll respond after you are stopped from disrupting because I don't like to leave the comments of stupid people unanswered when their stupidity should disqualify them from being visible.

JustIgnoreMe(3450) Disputed Banned
1 point

You can ban and run all you want - it doesn't change the facts.

Yes, there are several ways information gets added to the genome - see my post from a couple years ago

When we observe mutation, you say we need to see beneficial mutation;

when we observe beneficial mutation, you say we need to observe speciation;

when we observe speciation, you say we need to observe a change in kind (a non-scientific word just meant to drive the bar past a human lifetime).

If a human can't count to 1 billion in their lifetime, does 1 billion not exist? can you not get to 1 billion by adding a series of 1s because of the time it takes?

The bible only mentions air, land, and sea kind - what kind is a salamander?

The bible says air kinds preceded land kinds directly contrary to the evidence.

And see my other debate here about evolution vs biblical kinds - feel free to try and debate it - I'm certainly less likely to ban you than you are to ban me...

jolie(9804) Banned
2 points

I think it's really hard for people to listen and hear your message of love when you are calling them an idiot.

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

I think they are being idiots when they repeatedly defy God insulting Him every way they can think of. It's the definition of an idiot, doing things against themselves over and over and over again. If you don't like me telling the truth, you are probably an idiot too.

jolie(9804) Banned
1 point

You can speak your mind all you want. But many don't share your beliefs.

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

So why is it so hard for you to listen? What's your excuse? If you die today, are you sure your sins are forgiven and you are going to heaven? Yes or no to this last question please. I'm listening.

jolie(9804) Banned
1 point

Yes. I believe that my sins will be forgiven.

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

You are an idiot, and I say that lovingly because you need to know that you are an idiot so maybe you will wake up and stop being an idiot before God gets tired of you and lets you have the ungodly reality you desire in the fire of Hell where you will be as you are now, dying forever.

1 point

You know what my definition of Hell is? Having to deal with you for eternity. So as long as you are not wherever I end up, it will be a walk in the park. Heaven even.

Saintnow(3684) Clarified
1 point

Homos and Hindus are equally annoying and offensive like atheists, but with a different style.......and they are all fools and idiots.

1 point

Why would you ban someone and then keep on responding? It is obvious that you have your own belief system, you will never consider any other possibilities, you ban people who don't play by your rules, and you think that anyone who doesn't believe what you believe is an idiot. So what is the point?

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

Saintnow(2066) Disputed

1 point

Wahhhh, waahhhhhh, Saint Now banned me from his debate and I'm MAD :-(

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

It seems like your genes are controlled by the gene Dawkins wrote a book about, called "The Stupid Gene". You seem to be pretty much incapable of entering a discussion with respect for the creator of the discussion to focus on the OP, so I'll probably be ignoring you as your screenname requests and banning you without reading your posts.........and then maybe I'll respond after you are stopped from disrupting because I don't like to leave the comments of stupid people unanswered when their stupidity should disqualify them from being visible.

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

It seems like your genes are controlled by the gene Dawkins wrote a book about, called "The Stupid Gene". You seem to be pretty much incapable of entering a discussion with respect for the creator of the discussion to focus on the OP, so I'll probably be ignoring you as your screenname requests and banning you without reading your posts.........and then maybe I'll respond after you are stopped from disrupting because I don't like to leave the comments of stupid people unanswered when their stupidity should disqualify them from being visible.

1 point

lol

Saintnow(3684) Clarified
1 point

You have to make a more substantial comment than that. If you are not going to respectfully discuss the OP, why act childish and force me to ban you?

KayneOfNod(318) Disputed Banned
1 point

LOL

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Ban Him. I dare you. see what happens.

Plutarch(13) Banned
1 point

This question is not meant to be a pointed one, but why do you go to extremes to make sure that people can't respond to you. I mean sure some people may act stupid and say stupid things, but hey that's life right? You can ignore the stupidity right? I mean if they don't accept the gift God gave us, then that's their fault, not yours.

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

Why do people go to extremes trying to attack me when I'm only telling them the truth? Guess. I know why, and you should know if you really are saved.

Do you believe the Bible is the word of God?

Plutarch(13) Clarified Banned
1 point

Yes I do. However The word of god is meant to be spread to everyone. Even stupid people.

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

The people you imply I'm being harsh on are on their way to Hell and this may be their last warning, the last chance they have to repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ to be saved from Hell. They attack me for telling the truth and I see no reason why I should not remind them that they have one foot in the grave and the other on thin ice melting over the fire of Hell and will be in the fire forever if they don't get saved.

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

I have a message to deliver and I do not create debates and discussions to give idiots a platform to parade their stupidity. Yes I could ignore it, but then I would be disowning the importance of the message. If people can't show respect, they don't need to be here with me.

So what do you mean by "the gift God gave us"? What did God give you, and how do you know you got it from God? Please elaborate. You have the floor here now.

Saintnow(3684) Clarified
1 point

FYI, there are about five sceennames here who are the same person. Only one time did that person ever actually carry on a decent conversation with me, and it fell apart when I found they were lying about their idea of "God". They pretended to be talking and I should have saw through it a lot sooner, but it finally came out that they do not believe in God the Creator of all things, but in a god who is one of many and being part of everything....Hinduism, Americanized. After I got him to expose himself in that, he became his usual rude self refusing to acknowledge anything I said but going on and on in his Hindu style belief system, trying to own the discussion and ignoring my comments.........so I banned him and always will because he has always been foul mouth and juvenile delinquent in manners with me and the only time he actually carried on a conversation with me he was being deceitful the whole time leading up to when he tried to dominate and take over my debate and leave me out of the discussion. It does not work that way. I told the jerk to go make his own stupid discussion to talk about why he believes what he believes and I won't be there.

Bettyjoe(399) Banned
1 point

You believe what you believe because you are an idiot. ;)

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

Saintnow(2066) Disputed

Wahhhh, waahhhhhh, Saint Now banned me from his debate and I'm MAD :-(

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

Saintnow(2066) Disputed

1 point

Wahhhh, waahhhhhh, Saint Now banned me from his debate and I'm MAD :-(

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
0 points

You believe you have the right as a sinner to exist outside of Hell, and you are so dishonest and deceptive that it was like trying to pull my own teeth before I could get you to admit that you thing the thing created is God and God is not the Creator of all things..........a nonsensical belief, you are on your way to Hell's fire and you need to be saved or you will be lost, damned in Hell forever, idiot.

1 point

Oh, why don't you give it a rest already? Do you believe you have the right as an ass hole to live outside your mother?

1 point

I do believe and have faith in God. But I don't push other people to have the same faith as me . I do proclaim God but it is with actions and what others see in me. I don't have to piss other people just to prove to them that God is REAL . I am a believer but I cannot condemn people who don't believe the same way I do.

Saintnow(3684) Clarified
1 point

The devil is a believer, what makes you different from a devil? You kinda sound like a devil trying to attack me. Are you a witch?

ChristineMae(7) Clarified
1 point

The devil do wrong, unimaginable things. The devil also thinks he can overpower God . He is not a believer of God, he is quite the opposite, a believer of himself. Now, I do believe your thought is correct. I am a sinner and I truly accept that I should really rot in hell for the things I've done. But I BELIEVE that God can accept me and still love me if I repent and change my ways .

ChristineMae(7) Clarified
1 point

I am not trying to attack you .. Just saying my thoughts.

1 point

Pro tip: If you're trying to bring people around to your point of view, and those people don't believe in witches, don't bring up the fact that you believe in witches.

Jupiter(116) Banned
1 point

You are afraid. Afraid of having to take the realization the world doesn't make sense. You've committed what Albert Camus called philosophical suicide.

It is not bad when you do. I'm not opposed to god. Not opposed to faith, but I am opposed to people who are heretical to there own created faith.

Forcing of a faith is bad, telling people they'll burn in hell and that there idiots. that's ignorance.

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
0 points

If you say there is no God, you are a fool, and if you continue being a fool you are an idiot. An idiot is a person who repeatedly does things harmful or detrimental to themselves. Fools say there is no God, and idiots fight against Him. Their end, if they will not repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, will be eternal damnation in fire. If you don't like me saying so, that's too bad for you, isn't it?

Jupiter(116) Disputed Banned
1 point

No definite proof he exists my friend. You cant prove something you cant see. I can pull up pictures that confirm the big bang/ Can you say the same about your god?

1 point

Er, excuse me, but isn't there a street corner somewhere in need of an idiot spewing forth eternal damnation to all who pass by? I recommend you go find that corner and have at it, Crazed One. There's nothing like a religious nut job to remind us of how normal we are.

Saintnow(3684) Clarified
1 point

ERrrr, excuse me, I see you said something about a street corner, you might want to go there and see if you have the right to exist there, because you do not have the right to exist here. Do you have the right to exist outside of Hell?

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

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