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 Why are Black People Democrats? (38)

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Why are Black People Democrats?

The Republicans ended slavery!

The Democrats originally formed under the belief that Blacks were not people and should be slaves for the white man, but now a lot of the Black population are Democrats. What's up with that?

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4 points

CD isn't letting me submit the link, but the following comes from the Wikipedia article on the Democratic Party of the United States:

"From the end of the Civil War, African Americans favored the Republican Party. However, they began drifting to the Democratic Party in the 1930s, as Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal programs gave economic relief to all minorities, including African Americans and Hispanics. Support for the Civil Rights Movement in the 1960s by Democratic presidents John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson helped give the Democrats even larger support among the African American community, although their position also alienated the Southern white population and led to a split in the parties, with most liberals going to the Democratic Party and most conservatives, such as the "Dixiecrats" moving towards the Republicans. In addition, recent Caribbean and African immigrants have voted solidly Democratic."

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4 points

So it basically shifted parties? The racist white people became Republicans and the black community became democrats? And are you sure that is accurate? Wikipedia isn't always a reliable source. . .

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I'm sure that it's accurate because I took AP US History this year, and every history textbook I read said exactly what the Wikipedia article said.

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A very interesting debate. History plays a big part but the curious part is the switch from Republicans to Democrats. Check out this video that purports that the KKK used to be the terrorist wing of the post-Civil War Democratic Party:

Is this true?

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Tillerman(29) Disputed
2 points

The Republicans have always been Republicans since the time of their formation. They never turned into today's Democrats, and the Democrats have always been Democrats since just about the time of our nation's birth. Their policies have changed somewhat based on the needs of the nation and popular support, but they never switched places.

Some southern conservative Democrats in the 1970's changed parties because they disagreed with the liberal Democrats very profoundly.

I know that Democrats are good at pawning off their own failures and mistakes onto their competition so they'll get their pick of multitude of liberal professors eager to punish conservative Christian lawmakers by saying that Republicans and Democrats switched places, but they didn't. The Democrats made those mistakes way back then, not the Republicans, and they need to own up to their failures and quit pointing the finger at the Republicans. Even in this recession they refuse to own up to their part of it because that's what they're good at, refusing to take blame for their own failures.

All that happened was in the 1970's, when most of America, to include Democrats, both southern and northern, already understood that black people had the right to be equal, some southern conservative Democrats decided to join the Republican party. I know Democrats will constitute that as switching places so that they don't have to take on the blame of the KKK, slavery, Jim Crow laws, lynchings, and segregation, but it's just simply not true. Democrats did all of that, not Republicans.

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Archie(37) Disputed
3 points

GO for it JoeCavalry!

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3 points

No one is the slave of any one else.Every one is free and could do what ever he/she wants.

Supporting Evidence: testking EX0-101 (www.real-testking.com)
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2 points

I am so tired of all these white racist republicans. Even if they "pretend" to support someone like Herman Cain, it's only so these white folks can hide the fact that they are racist. Doesn't matter if they are a rich white republican or middle class, they are all hating on poor African Americans. The ONLY reason these folks don't like our greatest President ever, Barack Obama, is because they hate African Americans. And yes we are African people, don't call us black people. We are not black we are from Africa. You white folks are just white, not white Americans, because you stole this country then stole us from Africa. I can't wait for Obama to win a second term so he can start given us african Americans the free health care, free education, free everything you white people owe us. He's gunna open his checkbook and give us deserving folks the money we need then snatch your rich white peoples "greed" money right out of your hands. That's what you get for making my family pick cotton for so long. We hope one day to have all the money and make you white folks pick cotton for once!

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probuilt(1) Disputed
2 points

knock it off Bob.....your just making an ass of yourself. Stirring the pot doesn't make a dam bit of sense and if by chance you are black it just goes to show that our school system is really F_ C_ED UP....there is a U and K missing Bob....

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gadabout44(3) Disputed
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Who are you to judge whether I pretended to like Herman Cain? He's a great guy. There are good black people, and there are good white people. Let me tell you what I am--I am not a racist, I'm a ghettoist. I can't stand lazy trashy people, because they are nothing but trouble. Always running their mouth, selling drugs, and trying to steal my money. And I am not scared of them one bit, and I'll sure let them know. But I get along great with black people. I work with them, and I laugh with them, and they laugh at me. But don't hate me or I'll pick it up quick, and I'll let you know.

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on social issues more than Equality and Economic issues have the parties switched.

the Republican party is a party of "the government doesn't discriminate, but everyone maintains their civil liberties". hence, why they're against Affirmative action and for Capitalism. they feel the government shouldn't be trying to even out the playing field, but leave everyone to hold their own.

now, of course the party has changed on social issues, since it became more religious, and even groups like the NAACP are very conservative when it comes to social issues. it's the economic issues they don't like.

Blacks feel they deserve more from the government... special treatment. not all of them of course, but most of them do.

Republicans feel that it was the ancestors that were slaves, not them, so they should stop demanding reperations.

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I think no one is slave of the other. God has created every one as free human being. We are not slave except God.

Supporting Evidence: testking 70-647 (www.real-testking.com)
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I think, overall, it was the social programs. Black Americans come from a very oppressed state that was due to nothing other than their race. That is not only an insult, but a degradation that one cannot avoid. Then one party says they'll give them money. Now most are already suffering and trying to survive day to day with discrimination all around. Getting free money is going to seem like a blessing from heaven when you don't even know if you'll have a job next week.

Some may say it's because of the southern conservative Democrats that joined the Republican party, but that didn't even start until the 1970's. I mean the southern Democrats of the past were far worse than the southern conservative Democrats of the 1970's.

I mean if the 1970's southern conservative Democrats were like the Democrats of the past that fought tooth and nail to keep black people from having any say, do you honestly think they'd of joined up with the Republicans, the very party that formed on the basis of stopping the spread of slavery and grew on it's lack of support for the southern prejudice and on black equality? I think they would have just started their own party in competition with Democrats and Republicans.

I think the southern conservative Democrats, more than likely, found an ally in the Republicans due to severe contrast forming in this nation between liberals and conservatives. The Republican party was morally conservative because, well, they seem to always support what's morally right from abolishing slavery to the murder of the unborn child. However, southern conservative Democrats in the 1970's probably felt that morality was a bit more important then an antiquated traditional southern policy of white supremacy, as did most everybody in the U.S. by the 1970's.

I will say however, that the southern conservative Democrat joining the Republican party probably served to increase and solidify black support for the liberal Democrats.

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1 point

2 words: Gubmint Handouts. Democrats buy off minorities, students, & unions with handouts.

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Bob1234(14) Disputed
1 point

Obama didn't buy me off. He is a great African who is helping the poor by taking what is rightfully ours from your white profit from years of slavery. You rich white folks should not have profited of the blood of our work after you took us from Africa. The top 1% are the ones who made us plant the cotton fields and it's time to give that money back to us!

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zico20(239) Disputed
1 point

If white people would have known back then what we know now, we would have picked our own cotton and left you back in Africa!

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I mean if the 1970's southern conservative Democrats were like the Democrats of the past that fought tooth and nail to keep black people from having any say, do you honestly think they'd of joined up with the Republicans, the very party that formed on the basis of stopping the spread of slavery and grew on it's lack of support for the southern prejudice and on black equality? I think they would have just started their own party in competition with Democrats and Republicans.

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They have the illusion that they gained more freedom and equity through government intervention and force. However, Walter Williams points out the opposite. Don't forget, the Republican Party was the party that freed them from slavery.

Walter

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1 point

Blacks and other minorities usually vote for democrats mostly because of the availability of government social programs that are mainly designed to help those who live in poverty. Unfortunately, this hand "up" often creates a cycle of dependency that actually hinder upward mobility. Those people whose grandparents and parents have been on public assistance are used to their older relatives voting for democrats and they continue to vote for the hand that "feeds" them. Unfortunately, the "hand that feeds them" lulls them into a pattern of being satisfied with having "just enough to get by". Fortunately, not all minorities fall into this cycle. Grandchildren of successful grandparents, who also had successful parents tend to be more upwardly mobile and may tend to be more independent minded, but not necessarily republican.

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It really began in the 1960s. A preponderance of the Civil Rights Acts was drafted and put in place by Democrats. Furthermore, blacks benefited considerably from the social programs of that time. When you're poor, you tend to like Democratic programs because they're more socialist in nature. The wealthier you become the more you tend to dislike them. Look at Herman Cain. A billionaire black man! What party is he with?

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1 point

Why Martin Luther King Was Republican

By: frice

8/16/2006 12:00 AM

It should come as no surprise that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican. In that era, almost all black Americans were Republicans. Why? From its founding in 1854 as the anti-slavery party until today, the Republican Party has championed freedom and civil rights for blacks. And as one pundit so succinctly stated, the Democrat Party is as it always has been, the party of the four S’s: slavery, secession, segregation and now socialism.

It was the Democrats who fought to keep blacks in slavery and passed the discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws. The Democrats started the Ku Klux Klan to lynch and terrorize blacks. The Democrats fought to prevent the passage of every civil rights law beginning with the civil rights laws of the 1860s, and continuing with the civil rights laws of the 1950s and 1960s.

During the civil rights era of the 1960s, Dr. King was fighting the Democrats who stood in the school house doors, turned skin-burning fire hoses on blacks and let loose vicious dogs. It was Republican President Dwight Eisenhower who pushed to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1957 and sent troops to Arkansas to desegregate schools. President Eisenhower also appointed Chief Justice Earl Warren to the U.S. Supreme Court, which resulted in the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education decision ending school segregation. Much is made of Democrat President Harry Truman’s issuing an Executive Order in 1948 to desegregate the military. Not mentioned is the fact that it was Eisenhower who actually took action to effectively end segregation in the military.

Democrat President John F. Kennedy is lauded as a proponent of civil rights. However, Kennedy voted against the 1957 Civil Rights Act while he was a senator, as did Democrat Sen. Al Gore Sr. And after he became President, Kennedy was opposed to the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. King that was organized by A. Phillip Randolph, who was a black Republican. President Kennedy, through his brother Atty. Gen. Robert Kennedy, had Dr. King wiretapped and investigated by the FBI on suspicion of being a Communist in order to undermine Dr. King.

In March of 1968, while referring to Dr. King’s leaving Memphis, Tenn., after riots broke out where a teenager was killed, Democrat Sen. Robert Byrd (W.Va.), a former member of the Ku Klux Klan, called Dr. King a “trouble-maker” who starts trouble, but runs like a coward after trouble is ignited. A few weeks later, Dr. King returned to Memphis and was assassinated on April 4, 1968.

Given the circumstances of that era, it is understandable why Dr. King was a Republican. It was the Republicans who fought to free blacks from slavery and amended the Constitution to grant blacks freedom (13th Amendment), citizenship (14th Amendment) and the right to vote (15th Amendment). Republicans passed the civil rights laws of the 1860s, including the Civil Rights Act of 1866 and the Reconstruction Act of 1867 that was designed to establish a new government system in the Democrat-controlled South, one that was fair to blacks. Republicans also started the NAACP and affirmative action with Republican President Richard Nixon’s 1969 Philadelphia Plan (crafted by black Republican Art Fletcher) that set the nation’s fist goals and timetables. Although affirmative action now has been turned by the Democrats into an unfair quota system, affirmative action was begun by Nixon to counter the harm caused to blacks when Democrat President Woodrow Wilson in 1912 kicked all of the blacks out of federal government jobs.

Few black Americans know that it was Republicans who founded the Historically Black Colleges and Universities. Unknown also is the fact that Republican Sen. Everett Dirksen from Illinois was key to the passage of civil rights legislation in 1957, 1960, 1964 and 1965. Not mentioned in recent media stories about extension of the 1965 Voting Rights Act is the fact that Dirksen wrote the language for the bill. Dirksen also crafted the language for the Civil Rights Act of 1968 which prohibited discrimination in housing. President Lyndon Johnson could not have achieved passage of civil rights legislation without the support of Republicans.

Critics of Republican Sen. Barry Goldwater, who ran for President against Johnson in 1964, ignore the fact that Goldwater wanted to force the Democrats in the South to stop passing discriminatory laws and thus end the need to continuously enact federal civil rights legislation.

Those who wrongly criticize Goldwater also ignore the fact that Johnson, in his 4,500 State of the Union Address delivered on Jan. 4, 1965, mentioned scores of topics for federal action, but only 35 words were devoted to civil rights. He did not mention one word about voting rights. Then in 1967, showing his anger with Dr. King’s protest against the Vietnam War, Johnson referred to Dr. King as “that Nigger preacher.”

Contrary to the false assertions by Democrats, the racist “Dixiecrats” did not all migrate to the Republican Party. “Dixiecrats” declared that they would rather vote for a “yellow dog” than vote for a Republican because the Republican Party was know as the party for blacks. Today, some of those “Dixiecrats” continue their political careers as Democrats, including Robert Byrd, who is well known for having been a “Keagle” in the Ku Klux Klan.

Another former “Dixiecrat” is former Democrat Sen. Ernest Hollings, who put up the Confederate flag over the state Capitol when he was the governor of South Carolina. There was no public outcry when Democrat Sen. Christopher Dodd praised Byrd as someone who would have been “a great senator for any moment,” including the Civil War. Yet Democrats denounced then-Senate GOP leader Trent Lott for his remarks about Sen. Strom Thurmond (R.-S.C.). Thurmond was never in the Ku Klux Klan and defended blacks against lynching and the discriminatory poll taxes imposed on blacks by Democrats. If Byrd and Thurmond were alive during the Civil War, and Byrd had his way, Thurmond would have been lynched.

The 30-year odyssey of the South switching to the Republican Party began in the 1970s with President Richard Nixon’s “Southern Strategy,” which was an effort on the part of Nixon to get Christians in the South to stop voting for Democrats who did not share their values and were still discriminating against their fellow Christians who happened to be black. Georgia did not switch until 2002, and some Southern states, including Louisiana, are still controlled by Democrats.

Today, Democrats, in pursuit of their socialist agenda, are fighting to keep blacks poor, angry and voting for Democrats. Examples of how egregiously Democrats act to keep blacks in poverty are numerous.

After wrongly convincing black Americans that a minimum wage increase was a good thing, the Democrats on August 3 kept their promise and killed the minimum wage bill passed by House Republicans on July 29. The blockage of the minimum wage bill was the second time in as many years that Democrats stuck a legislative finger in the eye of black Americans. Senate Democrats on April 1, 2004, blocked passage of a bill to renew the 1996 welfare reform law that was pushed by Republicans and vetoed twice by President Clinton before he finally signed it. Since the welfare reform law expired in September 2002, Congress had passed six extensions, and the latest expired on June 30, 2004. Opposed by the Democrats are school choice opportunity scholarships that would help black children get out of failing schools and Social Security reform, even though blacks on average lose $10,000 in the current system because of a shorter life expectancy than whites (72.2 years for blacks vs. 77.5 years for whites).

Democrats have been running our inner-cities for the past 30 to 40 years, and blacks are still complaining about the same problems. More than $7 trillion dollars have been spent on poverty programs since Lyndon Johnson’s War on Poverty with little, if any, impact on poverty. Diabolically, every election cycle, Democrats blame Republicans for the deplorable conditions in the inner-cities, then incite blacks to cast a protest vote against Republicans.

In order to break the Democrats’ stranglehold on the black vote and free black Americans from the Democrat Party’s economic plantation, we must shed the light of truth on the Democrats. We must demonstrate that the Democrat Party policies of socialism and dependency on government handouts offer the pathway to poverty, while Republican Party principles of hard work, personal responsibility, getting a good education and ownership of homes and small businesses offer the pathway to prosperity.

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1 point

Because the Republican party is worse than the KKK. .

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addltd(4435) Disputed
2 points

What Seriously? You couldn't mean it! Could you?

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Sitara(11099) Clarified
1 point

I do. I am sorry, but I loathe the Republican Party. They are the ones making disgusting rape quotes. I am not talking about you when I talk about Republicans, because frankly, you are too sweet to join a hate group like that.

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Warjin(1514) Clarified
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Andy I know you mean well I really do, but you have to face it, your party got hijacked by nut jobs that want to oppress social freedoms.

Today there are two types of republicans, the old school republicans, the ones that fought along side Dr. Martin Luther King Jr and the tea party rednecks that want this Country of ours to turn into Christian Theocracy controlled by white people only.

I like to think you are one of the old school republicans, you seem to mean well from what I read from your older post and my heart goes out to real republicans like yourself that care about freedom and equality, but like I said today's republican party are not that way, they like "Dana" said are no better then the KKK, they want freedom so long as it's for White Christian's and the hell with all other races, religions ect.

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What? I don't get the question. There are democrats of maybe every race.

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1 point

Because the face of the republican party has changed, republicans got taken over by social conservatives and those guys oppress freedom in every way, if you don't think like them, you are an outcast, however over time the Democratic party became the new face for social freedom.

As a Hispanic Atheist know far to well about social inequality and so long as the social conservators control the republican party they will "NEVER" have the vote or the support of the majority of minorities in America.

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0 points

This is a generalization. Some Negroids may be democrats, whereas others are conservative.

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Bob1234(14) Disputed
2 points

Negroids!! See this is why we Africans are democrats. Your rich racist republicans keep saying we are the "N" word. Why would we join your racist group that don't support poor folks, Mit Romney even said he doesn't care about poor folks. And we know what that means. Most lower income, poor, folks are African American. That means Romney is just another southern riffle carrying, pick-up driving, rope toting, cross burning republican like the rest of you.

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gadabout44(3) Disputed
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Bob. A true conservative hates racism in it's essence. I have alot of great black acquaintances, and one black friend. I have black neighbors who mind their business, go to work, and keep their yards better than mine (lol)! What conservatives hate though, is using race to promote racial issues. For instance, a black man can kill a black man, or a white man, and there is no outcry, but if a white man kills a black man it has to be racially motived. This is very injust!!

Conservatives also hate laziness, and there are many lazy people of all races in the U.S. Do you believe hard working people shoud pay for people who sit on their lazy butts, make babies on our dime, and feed them too? Especially when they hate, fight, steal, and murder? The democrats reward those who do such things. Its the middle class, both black, hispanic, and white who are slaves to a government and liberal media. But whites conservatives are falsely tereotyped as racists. Where is the justice in this? Are you saying that no democrats are racists? My father in law was staunch dem, and always used the "N" word. Its a complete crock!!

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Bob1234(14) Disputed
1 point

You are racist because you don't like an African President

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1 point

I got in here to try to find out why Africans turned their backs on the very people that freed them from slavery? An awful lot of good men died so Africans could have their freedom.

Now I find that they apparent turned to the Dems for freebies. And now you vote for Obama simply because he's black and because he'll give even more freebies.

He's not going to give you anything he wants to keep blacks and whites fighting so we'll keep each other busy while he destroys this whole country from within.

Including African Americans. And it appears he's succeeding. We have more racism than ever.

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gadabout44(3) Disputed
1 point

It's not his color, but his ideology!! He thinks he can help the country by shutting down the refineries, natural gas and oil production by a heavy handed EPA. Do you know how many jobs are in a freed natural gas industry? But he vetos the pipeline from Canada. He's a tree hugging liberal. Are you?

Obama is hypocritical--blaming Bush. Bush was far from perfect. When Bush left office, gas was $1.85 a gallon, and we were 10 trillion in debt. Now look at gas, and we're 16 trillion in debt. George Bush accrued 4 trillion in 8 years and Obama called him unpatriotic, but he has accrued 6 trillion in just 4 years. How can you possibly defend this guy??

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JetAg(2) Disputed
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I'm glad having a black president upsets you. Going on about Rihanna's forehead? The world would be better if you killed yourself.

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