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Why are conservatives so selfish? Healthcare.
Conservatives are selfish on healthcare. They falsely think that healthcare is a privilege for those who can afford it, instead of a right for those thath need it. They ignore the simple fact that Yeshua healed for free. Conservatives claim to revere Yeshua, but refuse to follow his example.
How is it selfish to expect others to pay their own way and not selfish to want to put your hands in everyone else's pockets to cover the cost of your lifestyle?
Like most conservatives, you only care about money, not people. This is my body. I have the right to not be sick or injured. I can't afford healthcare, should I be forced to suffer? Healthcare is aa matter of life and death for me. I have the right to live. The for profit "healthcare" industry is selfish and cruel. KNOW THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not true. I think everyone should have some skin in the game; there should be no free rides. Everyone has something of value to offer and if they get something, they should give something. If they don't have money, they should volunteer and give back.
I take 1200 dollars worth of lifesaving medications per month that I cannot afford, have 4 preexisting conditions that would make HMOs refuse to accept me. I am living proof that healthcare is a right.
Last I checked, God doesn't need money to sustain Himself, so He has nothing to lose by freely healing people.
Human beings, on the other hand, require currency to sustain themselves; that's just how our economic system works. If they were to heal people for free, they would be using time without producing any currency, and would therefore be unable to sustain themselves.
America was founded on self reliance, a work ethic which saw the industrious and talented with the prudence to make provision for illness and old age rise to the top whilst the useless idlers were sidelined onto the rubbish tip exactly where nature's natural selection process intended them to be.
To dole out money to life's losers only serves to increase the population of ''the something for nothing'' brigade who come to expect others to pay for their existence and their brats.
In the U.K, there are 1000s of ''health tourists'' every year who go there to have their ailments treated and to give birth to their brats, free on the national health.
A lot of them stay on to avail of the free benefits of continuing health care, housing, education and other benefits.
"Conservatives are selfish on healthcare. They falsely think that healthcare is a privilege for those who can afford it, instead of a right for those that need it"
Now have you ever been to a county hospital that refused you healthcare ?
Your statement is blissfully stupid because that is what you are !
Conservatives will generally tend to also believe that their economic model would actually enable everyone to pay for their own healthcare. I don't know that that's accurate, particularly where certain rare and therefore exorbitantly expensive conditions are concerned, but it's a relevant caveat to their position. They aren't being selfish because they genuinely believe that they are contributing to a system that empowers everyone to care for themselves, while discouraging free-riders (which the liberal frame is generally too quick to dismiss).
I dispute that capitalism being about money and competition, is a problem. Money is good, the problems begin when you DON'T have money.
As for competition, have not the efforts to compete brought reward to the ones who have worked and succeeded? Most Americans who have a job, are working for a small business. Most small businesses are run by capitalists.
I don't know, ----------- something about
"biting someone's hand while they feed you" --------- comes to mind.
Oh, so when you question a governmental system you are biting the hand that feed you? I don't know.. something about... oppressing lower class people comes to mind.
Most Americans who have a job, are working for a small business. Most small businesses are run by capitalists.
the USA is not a financially stable country, it is not a democratic country, it is not a country that pursues equality and it is not a country of opportunity, and it is a country that is run by a tyranny that hides behind elections. So I wouldn't really use the USA as an example of capitalism in success.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe your argument is, basically, that the need for success and improvement of one's circumstances is selfish, because you can't demonstrate that it's not.
You can't prove a claim with lack of evidence to the contrary. Just because I can't articulate how the desire for success isn't inherently selfish doesn't mean that you're correct.
Capitalism is driven by competition and competition is driven by selfishness. The need to be the best, the fastest, the strongest, the richest, etc. Capitalism is driven by profit, which is also selfish because it's about money for you. This is selfish especially since it doesn't end, no matter how rich a business is they will always strive for more.
If competition is inherently selfish, then the term "selfish" has no real meaning, since it applies to everything it could possibly apply to; all sentient life engages in some form of competition or another, be it with others of its kind for copulation or other species for resources.
By that definition, then, Capitalism (and those who succeed under it) is no more selfish than existing as a living being, which, as previously states, makes the term meaningless.
If competition is inherently selfish, then the term "selfish" has no real meaning, since it applies to everything it could possibly apply to;
I disagree. There are numerous systems on which a society and a government could run. Without taking dictatorships, anarchy and other undemocratic systems into consideration, I think capitalism could easily be listed as the most selfish one of all. It is built and designed for the best to win, and therefore it doesn't care about the weakest. And we are not talking about natural selection, it is hard core discrimination between financial and social classes, where some have privileges others don't.
" There are numerous systems on which a society and a government could run."
Of course there are. But viably, for a significant period of time while maintaining a reasonable average quality of life? Doubtful.
Furthermore, even if these systems aren't engaged in internal competition, they certainly will be with their neighbors.
" It is built and designed for the best to win, and therefore it doesn't care about the weakest."
That may well have to do with the fact that Capitalism is not itself a system of morals; it's just an economic mechanism. That would fall under the region of individual, voluntary charity. Just because our government ideally shouldn't be sticking its fingers into areas it's not meant to, in this case regarding the Free Market, doesn't mean our system is poor.
"And we are not talking about natural selection, it is hard core discrimination between financial and social classes, where some have privileges others don't."
Are you referring to a caste system? In a Capitalist society, no such classes exist, at least when the government refrains from interfering (as it's meant to). In fact, one of the most beautiful facets of the system is that anyone can succeed, be they bankers with wealthy backgrounds, or small business owners who sought sanctum here from the Communist Utopia of Cuba. Of course, anyone can also fail, too, if their business falls short of its competition. The bottom line is, there are no special "privileges" given to anyone just because they're born in a certain class.
You really need to stop attacking her. You look like a complete fucking idiot when you do. Unless that's what you are going for, you will want to stop.
I am beginning to think your goal is to look like a complete fucking idiot. If your goal isn't to look like a complete fucking idiot, just say so right here.
I never said that. Republicans (not conservatives any more) don't want to help people get health care, but they aren't denying healthcare. Republicans aren't in a good position by just not denying healthcare. If I broke your legs I wouldn't be denying your right to live, right? Does that mean I can get away with breaking your legs? I know you don't understand anything I wrote, so have fun repeating something stupid.