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 Why are conservatives so selfish? Healthcare. (55)

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Why are conservatives so selfish? Healthcare.

Conservatives are selfish on healthcare. They falsely think that healthcare is a privilege for those who can afford it, instead of a right for those thath need it. They ignore the simple fact that Yeshua healed for free. Conservatives claim to revere Yeshua, but refuse to follow his example.
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How is it selfish to expect others to pay their own way and not selfish to want to put your hands in everyone else's pockets to cover the cost of your lifestyle?

Sitar(3680) Clarified
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Like most conservatives, you only care about money, not people. This is my body. I have the right to not be sick or injured. I can't afford healthcare, should I be forced to suffer? Healthcare is aa matter of life and death for me. I have the right to live. The for profit "healthcare" industry is selfish and cruel. KNOW THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Not true. I think everyone should have some skin in the game; there should be no free rides. Everyone has something of value to offer and if they get something, they should give something. If they don't have money, they should volunteer and give back.

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How exactly is it selfish to try to prevent people from going bankrupt due to inflated health care costs?

Sitar(3680) Disputed
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It is coservatives who are bankrupting people.............................................

outlaw60(15368) Disputed
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How do you figure what you have assumed ? When did conservatives say anything about wanting no one to have healthcare ?

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Last I checked, God doesn't need money to sustain Himself, so He has nothing to lose by freely healing people.

Human beings, on the other hand, require currency to sustain themselves; that's just how our economic system works. If they were to heal people for free, they would be using time without producing any currency, and would therefore be unable to sustain themselves.

Sitar(3680) Disputed
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This debate is not about religion. Stay on topic................................................

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America was founded on self reliance, a work ethic which saw the industrious and talented with the prudence to make provision for illness and old age rise to the top whilst the useless idlers were sidelined onto the rubbish tip exactly where nature's natural selection process intended them to be.

To dole out money to life's losers only serves to increase the population of ''the something for nothing'' brigade who come to expect others to pay for their existence and their brats.

In the U.K, there are 1000s of ''health tourists'' every year who go there to have their ailments treated and to give birth to their brats, free on the national health.

A lot of them stay on to avail of the free benefits of continuing health care, housing, education and other benefits.

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"Conservatives are selfish on healthcare. They falsely think that healthcare is a privilege for those who can afford it, instead of a right for those that need it"

Now have you ever been to a county hospital that refused you healthcare ?

Your statement is blissfully stupid because that is what you are !

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Jesus also turned water into wine for free. Clearly we should have free and public wineries.

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Conservatives will generally tend to also believe that their economic model would actually enable everyone to pay for their own healthcare. I don't know that that's accurate, particularly where certain rare and therefore exorbitantly expensive conditions are concerned, but it's a relevant caveat to their position. They aren't being selfish because they genuinely believe that they are contributing to a system that empowers everyone to care for themselves, while discouraging free-riders (which the liberal frame is generally too quick to dismiss).

Capitalism revolves around selfishness, it's in its nature. Capitalism is about money and competition, both selfish things.

So to answer your question why conservatives are so selfish... I could ask you why you would expect anything different?

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Selfishness is good; to want something is not a bad thing. Fulfilling wants and needs makes the world go round.

daver(1771) Disputed
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I dispute that capitalism being about money and competition, is a problem. Money is good, the problems begin when you DON'T have money.

As for competition, have not the efforts to compete brought reward to the ones who have worked and succeeded? Most Americans who have a job, are working for a small business. Most small businesses are run by capitalists.

I don't know, ----------- something about

"biting someone's hand while they feed you" --------- comes to mind.

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"biting someone's hand while they feed you"

Oh, so when you question a governmental system you are biting the hand that feed you? I don't know.. something about... oppressing lower class people comes to mind.

Most Americans who have a job, are working for a small business. Most small businesses are run by capitalists.

the USA is not a financially stable country, it is not a democratic country, it is not a country that pursues equality and it is not a country of opportunity, and it is a country that is run by a tyranny that hides behind elections. So I wouldn't really use the USA as an example of capitalism in success.

LichPotato(362) Disputed
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Capitalism isn't based around selfishness, it's based around incentives. Is wanting to succeed to improve your circumstances selfish? I think not.

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Is wanting to succeed to improve your circumstances selfish?

That's exactly right. How is the need for success and improvement of your own circumstances not selfish?

outlaw60(15368) Disputed
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"Capitalism is about money and competition, both selfish things."

Could not be better said by a Socialist as you are !

When did an earned income which is money become selfish ?

If competition is selfish then all sports competition should be banned right ?

Cartman(18192) Disputed
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You really need to stop attacking her. You look like a complete fucking idiot when you do. Unless that's what you are going for, you will want to stop.

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Are you saying selfishness should be banned ?