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Why are highly intelligent men usually horrible with women?

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Why are highly intelligent men usually horrible with women?

Usually, highly intelligent men realize they're highly intelligent and go on to brag about it to every woman they meet. I'm not saying every guy is like this, I have a few really bright friends who aren't that way. But, the majority of smart Americans tend to have big egos as well.

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xMathFanx(1722) Clarified
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@themadgadfly

Are you suggesting women do not like 'cocky' guys? As, there is overwhelming reason to think that is not true

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No, I don't think women don't like cocky guys, I just haven't seen many women that love egotists.

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I believe there may be a correlation between a person's intelligence and their level of self-consciousness. Intelligent people are usually too critically aware of their own faults and too analytical to simply "go with the flow" of a situation.

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xMathFanx(1722) Disputed
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@Quantumhead

Would you be willing to explain your position further? As, there are many ways that could be interpreted, currently

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Because attracting women has to do in part with making her comfortable. Intelligent people tend to talk about things a normal person isn't interested in or they start rambling off knowledge. Katrina isn't interested in Quantum Physics. Katrina is interested in gossip or rambling on herself. Less is usually more if you are intelligent, but most intelligent men try harder thinking that more work should equal more results. Usually this is true, but in this case it isn't. It just makes you come off weak & desperate.

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@BiggieSmalls

There is truth to what you say. Generally speaking, there are not that many people of high intelligence, then, the reasonable potential romantic options for such people is highly limited compared to the number of people in the population.

This is one reason amongst others

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BiggieSmalls(12) Disputed
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The thing is, intelligent men are actually very successful with women when they choose to see females as a science & be self aware. A highly intelligent man can learn a system that works on attracting most women.

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Are you asking why intelligent men treat women badly or are you asking why intelligent men are so bad at courtship?

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I question if they are highly intelligent if they are with horrible women, but I also wonder under what premise the women are horrible and what quantifies the male's intelligence?

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@Mint

I question if they are highly intelligent if they are with horrible women

A good point. For instance, not that I am promoting manipulation, though it would seem a person of higher intelligence would be better able to manipulate others, and therefore would excel at the game of seduction if they put their mind to it. This is one possible objection to the premise.

However, one could also argue that those of high intelligence simply are not as interested in women, because their mind has found a number of activities that are far more enjoyable than sex/romance to engage in & devote one's efforts to. Then, why bother?

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I think it can really depend on which kind of intelligence. For me there are two basic kinds. Street smarts and IQ. I think those with a higher IQ would excel at most everything scholarly while street smarts would excel at manipulation. You will get a few who excel at both, with "science smarts" negating morality....meaning those who see people as numbers or pawns and have no qualms with manipulation towards a certain end game, but I don't think those are as common. But then I think if anyone where a master at manipulation they wouldn't be with a horrible woman without some specific reason for the females usefulness.

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Why are highly intelligent men usually horrible with women?

I don't necessarily agree with the premise; then, I would ask that you elaborate on why this is the premise before I could respond

Also, how high of intelligence were you considering?

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What do you consider "horrible"? What do you consider "highly intelligent"? Both are highly relative to perception levels. You must be very young. From a "Betsy" school??

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They're not. It's just the ones who are monstrous get lots of media coverage about it eventually.

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It's just the ones who are monstrous get lots of media coverage about it eventually.

There are plenty of smart guys with terrible social skills that get no media coverage, unless you count YouTube videos as media coverage.

I'm assuming you're a man of "high intelligence" and don't want your image distorted, but tell me if I'm wrong.

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Grenache(6053) Clarified
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Well, I'm happily married. So either I'm an exception to your rule or maybe I'm just not that intelligent to start with. I suppose maybe I'm not as smart as I thought. But that's OK, because I love my wife.

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I'm actually an alpha-wizard. Jeez, idiots everywhere.

Could be that everyone has a similar level of resources or brain power which is utilised in unique ways which show our ability, where significant aptitude for one subject or skill can come at the cost of an impediment for others. I think this would be particularly apparent in cases involving autism, or perhaps being the sole cause of autism.

Having a natural almost incomparable talent for playing violin may come at the cost of understanding and exhibiting social behaviour, which most of us dedicate almost everything to. None of this would be by choice mind you.

Also can explain why sensory impairment can lead to advanced ability in the remaining senses.

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