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Why being an "SJW" has nothing to do with the legitimate left

1) SJW is a term that often describes people who take liberal tolerance to an extreme, hate white males, or are overly sensitive (like Mingiwuwu) but these people are not legitimate leftists, they are too stupid to know what politics even is. These are just giant pussies who side with the politicians who will let them go to the girl's bathroom.

2) The SJW label is often applied to legitimate nut cases, but it is also used to attack people who have legitimate points. SJW is a psychological warfare term used by the alt right.

3) There is no inherent connection between left wing politics and superstitious beliefs such as "gender is a state of mind" etc. As a far leftist I can tell you that "male" and "female" are biological terms. I think people should be able to dress, act, and think how they want, and shove whatever they want up their ass, but I don't think you can redefine your biology on a whim.

4) Because the left is more tolerant and less bigoted, being an SJW is seen as a leftist thing, but in reality anyone can be an SJW. Just look at FromWithin whining about religious rights and abortion for example.

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KikiTheSquid (25)

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Tolerant left

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Pennywise (29) Banned

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Because the left is more tolerant and less bigoted

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Amarel (4816)

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The idea of Social Justice is a leftist notion.

If you talk to an SJW or two, you’ll find that they self-identify with this label. It only appears to be used derogatorily because it is used when pointing out their actions, which deserve derogatory language.

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Rahiim (2) Disputed

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The idea of Social Justice is a leftist notion.

Legitimate social justice and being a retard who doesn't know what male and female mean are two different things. But thanks for admitting that the right is socially unjust.

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Talkative (51)

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1) Define legitimate left. Because from what I can see ALL mainstream figures on the left are generally in agreement with the far left. The far left (a small but strong number) completely dominates the left

2) The SJW label is often applied to legitimate nut cases, but it is also used to attack people who have legitimate points. SJW is a psychological warfare term used by the alt right.

3) You have to give a clear definition of leftist, because pretty much all lefties believe in that nonsense

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Rahiim (2) Disputed

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Define legitimate left. Because from what I can see ALL mainstream figures on the left are generally in agreement with the far left.

When you say "far left" what you really mean is establishment left and/or alt left. There are no "mainstream figures" who are worth shit whether they are on the left or right because they are all authoritarian or insane. If you aren't authoritarian or insane or both then you are a threat to the establishment and therefor cannot be "mainstream" without changing the entire status quo for what mainstream is.

You have to give a clear definition of leftist

A leftist is a socially liberal egalitarian collectivist. In it's true and legitimate form, that means you are a libertarian, you are against classism, and you want a community where everyone has the same opportunities. In it's mainstream establishment form it means you want to make up new genders, maintain right wing classism and simply give a few more hand outs to the poor instead of fixing poverty at the root, and you want everyone to think and talk the same.

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Talkative (51) Disputed

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There's plenty of figures on the right who I'd say aren't authoritarian or insane; Tucker Carlson, Ben Shapiro, Ann Coulter and Jordan Peterson just to name a few.

A leftist is a socially liberal egalitarian collectivist.

I don't see how that's any different to how the SJW's define themselves. You've got to prove that they're not actually socially liberal, egalitarian and collectivist.

In it's true and legitimate form, that means you are a libertarian

Private property rights, freedom and individualism are fundamental to libertrians. All contradicted by egalitarianism and collectivism

and you want a community where everyone has the same opportunities.

Right wing position is equality of opportunity. The left wing position is equality of outcome.

In it's mainstream establishment form it means you want to make up new genders, maintain right wing classism and simply give a few more hand outs to the poor instead of fixing poverty at the root

But that's still leftism. Lol right wing classism? wth is that?

and you want everyone to think and talk the same

AKA collectivism

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KFC_Lord Disputed

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Ann Coulter

This Ann Coulter?

"There is a growing body of evidence that radiation in excess of what the government says are the minimum amounts we should be exposed to are actually good for you and reduce cases of cancer."

Makes sense. Now I know why you're so stupid.

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Rahiim (2) Disputed

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Tucker Carlson, Ben Shapiro, Ann Coulter and Jordan Peterson just to name a few.

Thanks for that list of people most right wingers want to blow. But anywhoooooo those wankers really don't know how to be libertarian even if they wanted too, because they glorify capitalism which is inherently designed to consolidate all the land and resources into the hands of a privileged few and make the majority of the population work for them, and they support the state which means they are gay.

I don't see how that's any different to how the SJW's define themselves. You've got to prove that they're not actually socially liberal

because you have to agree with them or they will put you in a concentration camp.

egalitarian

Because YOU'RE A FUCKING WHITE MALE!!!!!

collectivist

They are, just in all the wrong ways.

Private property rights, freedom and individualism are fundamental to libertrians. All contradicted by egalitarianism and collectivism

Private property rights means that the government and corporations can use a social construct (Scientifically there is no such thing as property or rights, these things are literally like believing in the tooth fairy since they where made up by humans) to convince you that they have the right to control all the land and resources and you have to serve them. It seems like this great thing that allows you to have your own shit but in reality it allows you to rent shit from the arbiters of social constructs. Think about this: Can the government take your house away? Yes they can. Can the government take your rights away? Yes they can. Your "rights" are just privileges given to you by a piece of paper written 200 years ago.

True liberty and individualism is true egalitarianism and collectivism, because that means no one is lording over you and you live in a community of individuals who serve civilization and themselves rather than an upper class of individuals.

Right wing position is equality of opportunity. The left wing position is equality of outcome.

Wrong, the right wing position is neither. The (far) left wing position is that Kim Kardashian doesn't deserve access to better housing, food, education etc. than someone who is born into poverty just because she inherited wealth.

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Talkative (51) Disputed

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But anywhoooooo those wankers really don't know how to be libertarian even if they wanted too, because they glorify capitalism which is inherently designed to consolidate all the land and resources into the hands of a privileged few and make the majority of the population work for them, and they support the state which means they are gay.

Lol what? Libertarians aren’t capitalists? Where do you come up with this crap?

Ugh typical uneducated socialist definition of capitalism

because you have to agree with them or they will put you in a concentration camp.

Yes that’s what happens under all left wing regimes

Because YOU'RE A FUCKING WHITE MALE!!!!!

Wrong

Language is also a social construct. Let’s get rid of that then shall we. Heck even science is a social construct. According to your definitions.

Government cannot own your land if you have private property rights. That’s the definition of it. lol

If the government can take my land away then that means I don’t have private property rights or they’re acting illegally

Individualism and collectivism are opposites. Like black and white. Are you arguing that black is white?

How are communists serving society? Please explain. Because 100s of millions of deaths isn’t a good figure.

She created wealth. She’s made millions herself. She shouldn’t be allowed to pay for her daughters education? Just as her father did?

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FrogofLondon (34)

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Jehovah's Witnesses tend to be on the right.

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Mingiwuwu (1737)

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outlaw60 (14189) Disputed

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Nom your Troll Farm has been exposed Mingiwuwu is now Pussywuwu ?????????? LMMFAO

And Pussywuwu was created 47 days ago !!!!!! The Glass Pipe Dopehead is out of control!

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