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Why do so many people hate God?

Is it because He allows their ice cream cone to melt too fast on a hot summer day?
Is it because He does not kiss their boo boos and make the pain go away?
Is it because He took their favorite lolly pop away, and did not give them a new one to replace it?
Or is it because He is against perverts?

Matthew 7:6  Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
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because their deeds are evil and they don't want to be exposed .......... truly .. truly .. I (Jesus) say to you .. we speak of what we know and testify of what we have seen .. and you do not accept our testimony .. If I told you earthly things and you do not believe .. how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things .. no one has ascended into heaven .. but he who descended from heaven . . . the Son of Man .. as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness .. even so must the Son of Man be lifted up .. so that whoever believes will in him have eternal life .. for God so loved the world .. that he gave his only begotten Son .. that whoever believes in him shall not perish .. but have eternal life .. for God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world .. but that the world might be saved through him .. he who believes in him is not judged .. he who does not believe has been judged already .. because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God .. this is the judgment .. that the light has come into the world .. and men loved the darkness rather than the light .. for their deeds were evil .. for everyone who does evil hates the Light .. and does not come to the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed .. but he who practices the truth comes to the light .. so that his deeds may be manifested as having been wrought in God .... John 3:11-21 http://dadmansabode.com/b/04/040309.mp3 <

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This is true...they love darkness, they think death is their friend keeping them in the dark so their evil is not exposed.

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This is true...they love darkness, they think death is their friend keeping them in the dark.

Proverbs 8:36

But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.

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People hate God because he shines a light on their inhumanity.

How many times from these bigots have we heard how they are good people without God.

LOL, NO RESTRICTION ABORTIONS! HELLO?

Our welfare roles filled with unwed mothers! HELLO?

Record numbers of fatherless abandoned children! HELLO?

As God says, your so called goodness is like rags. You are liars, deceivers, having no knowledge of good and evil.

You are so blind to your irresponsibility. Your denial and blindness to your sins does more to prove God's existence than anything else.

Progressives absolutely hate anyone or any God shining a light on their self love, anything goes, no fault, irresponsibility.

They are totally insecure people who would die before admitting their sins. In their self love world, sin does not exist.

Progressives believe everyone is wonderful just the way thery are. UNLESS OF COURSE, you are pro life. Then you are a nazi type person who hates women. LOL, what judgemental intolerant fools these left wingers are.

NowASaint(1380) Clarified
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They like to say "I'm only human" as if that gives them an excuse for sin....even the heinous act of killing a baby in the place it is supposed to be nourished, protected, safe.

NowASaint(1380) Clarified
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Yes, they are such jolly and friendly people, so happy and lighthearted.

Cartman(18192) Disputed Banned
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How many times from these bigots have we heard how they are good people without God.

Almost never. It is people like you who say they have God who hate Him.

LOL, NO RESTRICTION ABORTIONS! HELLO?

Hello. If they are so bad why do you support them?

You hate God because He allows welfare, abortions, and fatherless children?

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People hate God when they see people who don't believe God exists are able to be good people without the fear of Hell.

dadman(1703) Disputed
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sorry cartman .... but you have not the ability to be "good" enough in order to escape Hell ...

your so-called "righteousness" is as a filthy rag compared to what God requires of you

Cartman(18192) Disputed Banned
2 points

So, you hate God because of what He requires of you?

outlaw60(15368) Disputed
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Are you going to use that rant against the Muslims and the Religion of Islam there Southpark ?

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Yeah, Muslims definitely hate God.

jeffreyone(1383) Disputed
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Good people will still go to hell without salvation.

Heaven has nothing to do with goodness. Its just grace and obedience...

Remember the thief on the cross with christ?

Even though he was a thief he was promised heaven.

Its just the grace or favour of salvation.

So a goodman should still fear hell without salvation(the condition is if he ever heard of christ)

Because we are not justified by works. The problem is with the sinful body we posses not the evil acts we do.

An evil and good man both without salvation have 90% chances of going to hell equally.

NowASaint(1380) Clarified
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I think Cartman is the most miserable person here.......but who knows? Hopelessness of atheism breeds misery

Cartman(18192) Disputed Banned
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You hate God because you think it isn't fair? Well, that's not a terrible reason.

Dermot(5736) Banned
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Why do so many people love God ?

Is it because He allows their ice cream cone to stay frozen longer on a hot summers day?

Is it because He kisses their boo boos and makes the pain go away?

Is it because He gave them an extra lolly pop to replace it the last one

Or is it because he loves ' missionary style '

JatinNagpal(2678) Disputed Banned
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That's not parallel enough. I have something better.

Why do so many people love God ?

Is it because He allows their ice cream cone to stay frozen longer on a cold winters day?

Is it because He kisses their boo boos and makes the pain go away?

Is it because He did not take their favourite lolly pop away?

Or is it because he is with perverts?

Give not that which is rational unto the idiots, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

- (used to be) Some random quote

NowASaint(1380) Clarified
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So you are wagering your soul against God, hoping to find the fire of Hell does not torment you forever. When did you decide to make that wager, Pasquale?

NowASaint(1380) Disputed
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sorry, dermy, heard enough of how you hate God....don't you get bored with it?

NowASaint(1380) Disputed
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Take it somewhere else please. Thank you. God loves you and wants you to be saved and be with Him forever in Heaven. Too bad for you that you would rather be in Hell. Being a pervert like you are is not worth burning in Hell forever.

NowASaint(1380) Clarified
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Dermy dermy dermy like a mad worm kinda squirmy,

Trying to kill God and stay away from Hell

A foul mouth Irish punk, fighting mad and drunk

Is that hot air his breath, or could it be his death we smell?

that he's trying to spit out with his teeth that smell

Pitiful cuss of a man, doesn't undertand,

He could be forgiven and saved from Hell

Will he believe before he's in the fire,

probably not but time will tell.

Not my best prose but good enough for a foul mouth punky Irish drunk

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Matthew 7:6

Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

Why is there so much suffering God? Why are there small children starving to death? Why are there horrible diseases such as malaria and cancer? A God who 'loves' all would not put these things on the planet would he? If he loves us all, why make so many of us suffer? God, if he exists, is not kind or loving.

That is why I do not love God.

jeffreyone(1383) Disputed
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When you remember God remember the other guy also.

Its not fair.

Mint_tea(4641) Disputed Banned
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I'm sorry for the dispute. Why do we blame God for this? Why not blame humanity, which allows this to happen? We can stop children from starving to death, we are working to cure malaria and cancer. Believe in Him or not, there are a few things that people love to blame God for which humanity has the power to fix itself.

Again, it's not so much a dispute, more a question.

NowASaint(1380) Clarified
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We all know you hate God and worship a thing which approves of cheering for witches. We all know you firmly believe Jesus Christ is not God and that He did not conquer death be rising bodily from the tomb. We all know that somehow in your twisted mind you believe you are a Christian while you deny Jesus is God. Your idea of being a "Christian" is much more in line with being a witch, and I'm really not interested in hearing you whine anymore.

JatinNagpal(2678) Clarified Banned
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Humans are not benevolent and omnipotent.

We might become a much more peaceful species in a millennium or so.

NowASaint(1380) Clarified
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I think I answered you on this before, but I'll do it again. You will not accept the answer because you hate God and want to blame Him for your problems rather than trust Him to save you from your sins. You don't want to admit your sins openly before God are worthy of nothing but eternal dying in the fire of Hell....that's a warm up for your question.......

Suffering is in the world because God is merciful. When Adam and Eve turned against God in sin, they died...separated in death from God by their sins. In order for God to give them time outside of Hell, to be just He had to allow suffering and death to continue in the world by making Himself the sacrificial Lamb to pay for the sins of mankind. He suffered and died for your sins so that in His resurrection He shows His righteousness in forgiving all who believe on Him and His righteousness in leaving all who reject Him in eternal suffering. Suffering is what comes with sin. God wanted you to be here, so He allowed suffering to continue in the world while He holds the right to end the suffering of those who trust in what He did for them who believe on His resurrection and trust in Him, the Living God, as their Savior who paid with His own blood to redeem them from the suffering, from the curse of sin and death. He who knew no sin and should never have suffered did so because He loves you that much, so He suffered and died for you to buy you back with His sinless blood from the punishment your sin demands in the fire of Hell. Believe on Him and you will be redeemed, and your suffering will end when you are with Him in Heaven. Reject Him and care not that He suffered for you, believe it not, go your own way and He is wholly righteous to leave you in your dying, leave you in your suffering, forever and the only proper place for it is in the eternally burning garbage pit of Hell.

You ask stupid questions trying to accuse God of not being good while He has proved His love for you in that He died for you His enemy. God loves you, but you

incur His wrath by refusing to seek His mercy and you are getting what you deserve if you will not believe He who did not deserve it suffered and died for you.

You love death, and you walk according to your own lusts...for most people that means you enjoy sexual perversions yet there is a rare atheists who actually believes sex is sacred for the joining of a man and woman in marriage to be one flesh until death do they part. For those, "lusts" would describe their desire for power or things, recognition.....they can seem like nice people sometimes but when the rubber hits the road they hate God and they hate anybody who tells them they deserve to die and burn in Hell. They love death because they mistakenly believe it will get them off the hook and they will be exonerated and not punished in death.

You do not love God for one reason...it's because you love your sin more than life and you love death. God will give up on you sooner or later if you will not return to Him and He will leave you in the reality you want, a reality void of the possibility of knowing He loves you...and that reality is in the fire of Hell.

NowASaint(1380) Clarified
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Oh, so you think you are better than God...so how would you end all of the suffering?

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Religious people say things like this but the truth is that I have never known anyone who hated God. As an atheist I actually am aware of peoples feelings toward their religious Icon. Why would ask this question as if it were a true statement when it is not?

NowASaint(1380) Clarified
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I remember you blowing your top when you knew that the answers you were trying to give regarding the meaning of life and how you try to deny that you hate God were nonsense. You believe in nonsense, Boob, you hate God and I'm really not interested in your nonsense.

Oh yeah......you blew your top saying you are better than God. Poor little Bob feels God doesn't do what you want Him to do so you declare that you are better than God because you say you would grant all your wishes if you were God.

NowASaint(1380) Clarified
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Oh yeah......you blew your top saying you are better than God. Poor little Bob feels God doesn't do what you want Him to do so you declare that you are better than God because you say you would grant all your wishes if you were God.

NowASaint(1380) Clarified
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Oh, I see you are not burning in Hell....at least up until four days ago when you left a post. I quit reading your stuff a long time ago, Boob, shortly after you blew your top when I made you face the truth that in your belief system everything is meaningless and life is hopeless and futile.

NowASaint(1380) Clarified
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bibs......you were gone for a while, I didn't miss you at all........you're nasty like the rest of these atheists here.

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People hate God for many reason. He is supposed to be there for them. Comfort them. Bless them. Sooth them with his presence. However, God, and most religions, are faith based. You must have faith that God loves you. That God is there for you. For a non believer it is very easy to assume God doesnt exist because nothing can be done to prove his existence. People are prone to believe in things that have been proven to them and that's completely normal. As a Christian your goal is to show them that through faith God is there and if that isn't accepted then the most you can do is pray for them. Their reasoning is perfectly logical.

NowASaint(1380) Clarified
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Take your religion down the road. The question here why do so many people hate God, I don't want your religion, I don't like your religion, and I don't like your attitude. If you think nothing can be done to prove God is God, you're a fool like the atheists. If you think the reasoning of atheists is logical, you are insane like them. Your whole post here is gibberish and off topic. Banned.

AlofRI(3294) Banned
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I don't hate GOD, I don't hate Satan, I don't hate Santa or the Easter Bunny. I can't see any reason to hate what doesn't exist. There are many, many things to hate that DO exist. Why waste time (OR hate)?? Hate cruelty, hate intolerance, hate pollution, etc., etc.!

NowASaint(1380) Disputed
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You hate God and you love death, death is your religion and you worship it thinking it keeps you out of Hell.

I think it's usually because they're spoiled and selfish, refuse to take responsibility for their own actions and accept ultimately that they themselves are the reason their lives are so uttelry sh*tty.

So instead of improving themselves and their character, they just sit and blame God for their own miserable lot in life.

NowASaint(1380) Clarified
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yeah, but it's better said without profanity. They do indeed blame God for everything they do not like in their lives or in the world and somehow it makes them feel better when they say they are more powerful and better than God. They sure are a miserable bunch.....lots of perverts and winos...

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Virtually no one hates God. That assertion is your simple way of dealing with anyone who asks a good question or has a different belief about God than yourself. You think you can lump them all together in a net of hate. It's not all that different than when one society in war time labels their enemy with some sort of derogatory smear so it will be easier for their soldiers to seem them dehumanized and kill them. Because gee, who in their right mind would defend hating God? That sounds so terrible.

What people do hate is when the phony voices of religion start playing tricks, like labeling all who disagree with him as being people who hate God. And they hate when you start playing with laws so a free society has to live by Christian rules even if they believe differently. And they hate when hypocrites hide behind God while they demonstrate hate and sin themselves.

NowASaint(1380) Clarified
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I'm surprised I didn't ban you........oh, you stayed away I guess. You should have stayed away longer.

NowASaint(1380) Clarified
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If you didn't hate God and love your sin and your wine more than life, you would repent and believe on His Son and be saved from Hell. You hate God, you don't care that He gave Himself for you when He took on the form of a man, the Son of God, and died for you. You hate Him, you might as well be the guy who threw the spear in His side while He was hanging on the cross.

NowASaint(1380) Clarified
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You hate God or you would seek His mercy and believe on His Son. You think you have the right to exist outside of Hell, and you think God would be wrong to leave you frying like an eternal sausage there. You can't admit that God is righteous and you are unrighteous because you hate Him.

So many people hate God because of things like the majority of this debate section.

As a Christian, nothing is more irritating than an Atheist trying to perform an impromptu conversion by telling me about all of the ways that science can "prove" that God isn't real. Clearly, I'm not interested, as belief doesn't need to be focused on what you know, but rather, what you believe. Faith is essentially belief without a guarantee. None of us can tangibly prove that God exists, but we believe because of what we have seen in our own lives.

NOW, the core problem comes down to Christians who choose to do this backwards, and try to perform a conversion on non-believers. Nothing pushes a non-believer away more than saying "You're a sinner. Your whole life is sinful. You need to change the way you're living. You're going to go to hell." and things of the sort. NOTHING will turn someone off from Christianity faster than someone trying to communicate to them like it's still the 1830's.

It all comes down to better communication.

Another reason is the rise of neo-Christian churches (the Foursquare Church) that focus so much on being pop-culture icons and wanting to be popular with young people, that they become their own culture, ostracizing people who don't fit in with their image, and solely just believe themselves to be untouchable and important people. There is a certain culture of self-righteousness, pride, and lack of integrity that exists now, and it is a major factor in making Christianity look less appealing.

NowASaint(1380) Clarified
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well.........maybe I jumped the gun a bit......I'll read some more.........nope, I was correct, you have an attitude problem and I don't believe you are a Christian.

NowASaint(1380) Clarified
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I don't believe you are a Christian. If you are, please tell when and how it came about that you believed on the Lord and got saved from your sins, saved from Hell. Give your salvation testimony in your next post or I will have to conclude you are a phony.

You sure seem to be irritated a lot. So you claim to have faith, but you don't know if what you believe is true? You have no guarantee for your faith? It sounds to me like you have no faith and a lot of talk, and you don't know what you are talking about; you said it yourself....

NOWIE WOWIE!!!!!!.....the core problem is you have a big attitude and show no sign of being born of the Spirit of God.

Hell has not changed since 1830, except maybe the fire has grown to make room for the sinners which continue to fall in.

If you think it's bad to tell sinners that they will end up in Hell if they don't get saved, then don't tell them....just tell them how great of a person you are, as you are too nice of a guy to warn people of the danger they are in.

What makes Christianity unappealing is people like you saying dumb things like "Faith is essentially belief without a guarantee." Who wants to believe in anything that has no guaranteed? My faith is guaranteed, my hope is guaranteed, my pardon is guaranteed by God. It seems to me that you have an arrogant and self-righteous attitude which you rely on over and above your unwarranted faith.

You are the exact sort of example I am speaking of. You are the reason why people hate God.

The Bible states that human beings should adapt traits of love and compassion toward our fellow man. Nothing that you just said signified any sort of love or compassion.

The way that you're presenting Christianity makes it look unappealing, because you're being an absolute fascist. "TELL ME YOUR TESTIMONY OR YOU'RE DEFINITELY A FAKE." Wow. God would be proud of you, buddy.

Also, I'd just like to say, I can guarantee that I've had a much more difficult Go in life than you have. Only after I was raised on the streets, sexually assaulted twenty times before I was 16, and then became addicted to Heroin and Opiates for over a decade, did I understand how a life could be changed. The only method through which I kicked my substance addiction and style of living was by casting my problems upon God, and finding community in my fellow brothers.

Go ahead. Come at me, you uneducated profligate.

NowASaint(1380) Clarified
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They hate God because they walk according to their lusts and do not want to repent of their sin because the pleasure it gives them seems to be worth more than life.

The Bible is clear on why people hate God. If you are a Christian, which I doubt, you should read it more.

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the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things. But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things. And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God? Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance? but after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; who will render to every man according to his deeds: to them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: but unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil

TzarPepe(763) Clarified
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Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, that ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: that they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle. Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace, comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.

Finally, brethren, pray for us, that the word of the Lord may have free course, and be glorified, even as it is with you: and that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith. But the Lord is faithful, who shall stablish you, and keep you from evil. And we have confidence in the Lord touching you, that ye both do and will do the things which we command you. And the Lord direct your hearts into the love of God, and into the patient waiting for Christ.

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NowASaint(1380) Clarified
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It's because they walk according to their lusts...they serve their own sin, they are not being honest when they talk about God.