Why do you think there are "black people" if god made Adam and Eve and they are both WHITE
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Who are these "most people" who think the white race is superior? I know none of them, and them being the majority, you'd think we'd all know at least a few. Anyway, the term "race" is misleading. Humans have like 99.8% identical DNA. Human is a race. Neanderthal were the closest thing to another race of human types, but they no longer exist. All of that should be obvious, we just really really need to get this deep socially bred idea that there is some inherent difference between one group of people an another group of people out of our collective heads. It is factually incorrect by every measure. 4
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NO offense on me buddy, the paintings that you see are mostly Renaissance paintings, painted by Italians under the patronship of Rome. These paintings are obviously going to be bias towards white people. The fact is that no-one would have any idea what they would have looked like had they ever existed. The fact is that all modern knowledge points to Homosapians originating in Africa sharing a common ancestor with a species called Australopithecus Afarensis, I think found close to Ethiopia, which would lead to the conclusion that the first Humans were Black, in fact if you look at all the long surviving indigenous peoples they are all darker skinned. Whiter skin would have evolved or devolved in colder climates where protection from the sun was less important Check out the link for Zeresenay Alemseged at TED.com Because there's no such thing as god, and therefore no such thing as adam and eve. And the varying levels of melanin in the skin of different humans is due entirely to regional advantages over hundreds of thousands of years of evolution. In the off chance this magical daddy in the sky did exist, and did make an adam and eve, adam and eve would have been black because all of our ancestors were "black" to varying degrees. [link] in spite of what some would have you think, the original homosapien came from Africa and only Africa, not Europe, not Asia. These first people began to spread out over the globe, and it was likely not until they were separated from eachother for hundreds of thousands of years that traits such as different shades of flesh color become more dominant in certain areas. So the question should be "Why do you think there are "white people" if this person people just made up created adam and eve and they are both black." Side: moronic
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Disputations 1:1 (Lawn-man’s version of the bible): Come now and let us reason together saith the Lawnman. I assume we agree on this: Both of us can provide valid argumentation in support of our pre-suppositions of the truth or falsity of God’s existence. Moreover, some of the justifications of both can be rooted in the bible itself. I have no problem with that. After all, whether we presuppose the existence or non-existence of God, any ‘source’ of evidence that supports either view is acceptable when its logically valid, despite whether it is true or false. Now, having prefaced our rebuttals by expressing our mutual respect, I begin. #1 The bible does not support the inference that ‘Adam’ is the first human. (Human is adequate.) But, let’s suppose that it does, and consequently all humans are the progeny of the first human whose name is Adam. Let’s compare it with the scriptures. I Corinthians: 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 15:46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. 15:47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven. According to the translated writing, which is alleged as the words of the Apostle Paul, we cannot infer that Paul understood the name “Adam” to strictly denote human or man; although “Adam” is the first man. However, we can validly infer that he recognized two “Adams”, no more than two and no fewer than two. This is evidenced by verse 15:45…first man Adam…, the last Adam... Paul does not modify the term ‘Adam’ with ‘man’ in the term “the last Adam” in verse 45, but he does in verse 47 by the qualification of “the second man”. Inferentially, we understand he speaks of the first man Adam and the second man Adam. Therefore the second man is both the last man and the last Adam; the first man is the first Adam. Deduction: If the Lord (Jesus, simplified) is both “the last Adam” and “the last man” and they both are the second of only two, then no male of the human race since and before Jesus, excluding the first Adam, is either a “man” or “Adam”. Clearly, our definition of “man” is not consistent with Paul’s understanding of what the scriptures evidence by the terms ‘man’ and ’Adam’. (I am avoiding the issue of the original terms of the translated Bible. However, if I were to address the translation issue, it would evidence that the translators took license to rewrite the accepted historical scriptures of the Hebrews in the English version of the bible by blatant abuses of logical inference.) Think of it this way: If 1 is 1, then the translators infer that 1 is 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16 and whatsoever promotes the god of their imagination, especially when the truth is in conflict with self-deification. (If you own a Strong’s concordance of the Bible you can immediately confirm the truth of my claim. Research the reference number that is frequently, but not universally attached to the term ‘Church’. Once you see the ‘license of the translators’ you will find many other licenses that are attached to all the key terms of biblical thought.) Side: moronic
Alright, first I want to clarify that I do not enjoy delving into this sort of over-analysis into something I do not believe in. I do not believe that there is any hidden meaning, I don't believe the authors of this book divine or human made it purposefully vague or that poor translation has made it this sort of Rubik's cube of keyword puzzles worthy of trying to align into a kind of conformity. I am well aware of these deep analytical studies, having gone to a Jesuit University, but I could just as easily take Harry Potter and create interpretations of verse, the only difference, Harry Potter is less vague to start with so it would take a bit more work. I'm pretty sure the bible can most charitably called a series of parables meant to teach this or that, and should in seriousness only be viewed as such even by those who believe it. This frees it completely from any expectation of consistency or logic while maintaining one's right to believe it is divine if they wish without having to go through these mental gymnastics. But for the sake of argument. You seem to be correct in your assertion that verses in the Bible take liberty in the definition of Adam. 15:45 I would translate to mean Adam as a representative of all men, not one in particular. As such here the actual person Adam himself who screwed eve and the rest of it, was not necessarily a real person. This is a good verse. It I think clearly defines all man as a spiritual being - as an atheist and a humanist, to me it says that all "Adam's" have potential for some higher understanding. This potential elevates all men by definition and not simply a group who believe a certain thing. But were all Judea-Christians more focused on verses such as this... 15:46 unfortunately directly contradicts man as a living soul. This clearly takes another direction redefining man from the beginning as not a "spiritual" (what I would call thinking) creature, but insisting that it is only through a particular "spirituality" (what I would call mindset) that man is then made man - or Adam. This implies that the literal Adam, was not spiritual, had no place in either heaven or hell if such things exist. Indeed then, if this is the translation then Jesus would be the Christian Adam, and the old Testament Adam should be ignored completely unless one defines that Adam as a prophecy and not a historical account. - then though the question is what is Eve's role? Was this analogous to Jesus temptation by this translation? That is something the Jesuits would love discussing for hours. I on the other hand have no desire to do such. My problem with any such translation of Adam, is that it defines a group of humans who existed before Adam as less than human. This allows for all sort of evil, it brings to mind Kinda's insistence that it would be okay to murder me because I am not of his faith. Indeed this definition of Adam allows for all sorts of this type of thing. If one is only made "Adam" through this "spirit" then what difference what is done to one without this spirit? They are not human in the sense of a spiritual being after all. Truly disturbing. 15:47 backs up this. It is my belief that these verses and similar ones, where the original says one thing, then the subsequent verse redefines what was said, were added much later, perhaps in order to justify the Catholic church's inquisitions and other nefarious acts. That is speculation, but it is clear that much of Corinthians almost seems to be written by two or three different voices even within a single paragraph. It is odd, while much of the Bible is vague, most of it even after translation can be said to have a single kind of "voice" in each book. There is some conformity of ambiance by and large. Basically, I believe that much of this confusion, and even that so much thought must be put into the book in order that it should make sense in a real-life spiritual sense, is the result of centuries of those in power, adding, subtracting, and editing what they will as it fits their own schemes. Whatever the original book looked like (not that I would believe that one anyway) I don't believe it would even remotely resemble what we see today in any translation. Side: moronic
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I don't think there were cameras to take pictures in the Garden of Eden, and we don't know what color they were. Someone put them as white in the churches, and also a white Jesus. We know Jesus was Jewish, and also born in the middle-east. I doubt the picture of the white guy in the churches is really a picture of Jesus. Give it up! It doesn't matter what color they were. Side: WERE Adam and Eve white
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Adam and Eve were the only two people in existence. Incest causes deformations. Darker than usual pigment in the skin was probably a deformation. The white brothers and sisters thought that, because they were white, that dark skin was odd, wasn't attracted to it, and only likes attracted. Dark skinned brothers and dark skinned sisters... they humped and made darker skinned children... Yes, that's it. Evolution of inbreds. Side: Incest and Evolution
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First of all, the Bible does not clearly state that Adam and Eve are "white", therefore there is a huge possibility that they may be darker skinned. Your are clearly following the common image of Adam and Eve that society has created in children stories, tv,..etc. But if you go to the main resource ( The Bible) and find where it clearly states if they are "white" then please create a more put together question. Side: Bible does not state
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I don' t begrijpt de betekenis van dit. Vraagt u het bestaan van Adam en Vooravond of bent u geweest racistisch? Cuz heeft u codes wanneer uw het verwijzen naar Zwarte mensen gebruikt. Het doesn' t zelfs kwestie wat uw punt is tenzij u het onderscheidende karakter uit sleept. Side: Bible does not state
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I could be wrong but I don't think the bible never actually states that adam and eve's were white. But according to some religious traditions dark skin is the result of sin. Most of these were written by ancients who were ignorant of biology. The actual reason for differing skin color has less to do with sin and everything to do with varied UV ray output in various regions of the earth causing people's skin to adapt. Side: WERE Adam and Eve white
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After all we all are human beings weather it's black people or someone else everything is created by God itself. Side: moronic
I don't understand the meaning of this. Are you questioning the existence of Adam and Eve or are you being racist? Cuz you have used codes when your referring to Black people. It doesn't even matter what your point is unless you drag the discriminating character out. Side: moronic
Everybody is created by god and I think it's useless to argue on this topic but we really can't demoralize people just because of the color of the skin Side: moronic
Адам и Eve были брошены вне в смертный мир где были другие. Они weren' t единственные людские существования живые… как раз предположительно первые одни. Сверх того, я думаю Адам и канун weren' t черный или белизна снятые кожу с они были рыжеватыми. Side: moronic
Na allen zijn wij allen menselijk wezensweer it' s de zwarte mensen of iemand anders worden alles gecre�ërd door God zelf. Side: moronic
I' vrij zeker m de bijbel kan charitably geroepen een reeks gelijkenissen die moeten om dit of dat onderwijzen, en zou in ernst slechts zoals zulke zelfs door zij moeten worden bekeken die het geloven. Dit bevrijdt het volledig van om het even welke verwachting van consistentie of logica terwijl het handhaven van one' s het recht te geloven het is goddelijk als zij zonder het moeten door deze gaan geestelijke gymnastiek dit wensen. Side: moronic
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Who says adam and eve were white? There is nothing in Christian scripture that says they are white. God made different animals....different races because each one is beautiful and have wonderful characteristics. There is nothing in scripture that says.........races cant marry or be together. What it does say..is that you must marry someone who is equally yoked in faith. What difference does it make what color God is? it does not. Side: moronic
pensi che Adam ed Eve siano bianchi perché nell'immagine della barretta dei dei che tocca la barretta del Adams tutti sono bianchi ma non ho inteso offendere la gente I' m. appena curiosa. Side: moronic
Tout le monde est créé par un dieu et je pense it' ; s inutile de discuter sur cette matière mais nous vraiment can' ; t démoralisent des personnes juste en raison de la couleur de la peau. Side: moronic
De god maakte tot verschillende dieren verschillende rassen omdat elke men mooi is en heeft prachtige kenmerken. Er zijn niets in scripture die zegt de rassen samen huwen of zijn afschuinen. Side: moronic
I don' t denkt er camera's waren om beelden in de Tuin van Eden te nemen, en wij don' t weet welke kleur zij waren. Iemand zette hen wit in de kerken, en ook een witte Jesus. Wij weten Jesus Joods, en ook geboren was in het Midden-Oosten. Ik betwijfel het beeld van de witte kerel in de kerken werkelijk een beeld van Jesus is. Side: moronic
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lately i find i don't have nearly enough time to read all the great blogs out there. although i maintain my subscription to this blog - because i think it's a great one - i don't always read every post. this is because many of them are quite lengthy and require a small commitment to read. it would be nice to have a few more short, to-the-point posts. not to say they should all be that way - just sometimes. Side: moronic
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I have been wondering about this issue,so thanks for posting. Pretty cool post.It’s really very nice and useful post.Thanks for sharing this with us !it’s my first visit. Side: moronic
No evidence of god exists and thus, the same thing is true for Adam and Eve. Nobody knows the colour of Adam and Eve only god knows the exact answer. Thanks for sharing this useful post. Side: WERE Adam and Eve white
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Can white people integrate in a black society?Look at South Africa where white people are separated of black people. Will the same thing happen in the US? Black people are the majority also in Brazil and there, only white people have access to education even if the most of the population is black.Why can't white and black people work together for a powerful society. Will the population be educated not to judge a person because of his race? Regards, Cliff Merchant MD Side: WERE Adam and Eve white
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I don't agree with the statements. Who has seen them both may be they would have black or white or Adam may be black or Eve may be white or may be opposite. Side: WERE Adam and Eve white
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The color does not matter in my my views. The color is just another thing to fight for in humans. Every one is created by God with his own hands they are all unique in there nature. Side: WERE Adam and Eve white
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I am a white male and I have read the entire Bible. There is no mention of skin color of any person in any of it. If Adam were a black man and Eve was white or black....the entire human race would have the HAIR of a black person. There is no black man on the face of this planet that has the HAIR of a white man. Maybe a black woman makes her hair so it looks like a white woman's hair, but, there is a sharp, noticeable difference between hair textures. In all photos and even in the shroud of Jesus, I never see him with the HAIR of a black man. Jesus' hair is long and resembles the hair of a white man. It is not curly, short and nappy. That is proof #1. Now, to switch gears a bit here. Why do all pictures portray lucifer or satan as being "black?" When actually, lucifer was a part of the kingdom of heaven, beautiful, bright and white. Until he fell from grace, he then turned black. Why? To show to all of us that black is evil, Lucifer is evil and evil is black? We are all slaves, slaves out of the Bible because the first two humans decided to NOT listen to God, our heavenly father. What kind of idiots wouldn't listen to God?? There were ONLY two in the beginning. Now there are billions that don't listen to God. I wonder what's going to happen next? Side: Bible does not state
God also said He regretted creating man.....ALL skin colors and languages b/c of the wickedness He(God)was witnessing. God knew we would bring ourselves to this point. He has faith in some while others don't have faith in Him. But, if I had to decide between an eternity of pain and suffering like nothing I could imagine or peace and love, I choose the second one. Every day life on this planet is bad enough, why would I want to spend an eternity doing it all over again, but only worse?! I do have some brains, ya know. Side: Bible does not state
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I don't think the original ethnicity of our common parents has ever been revealed to us. It doesn't particularly matter. I believe science, if it hasn't already, will come to confirm that human beings derive from 1 set of ancestoral parents. We will discover this through DNA research is my guess. The various races evolved over time due to environment etc.. Side: Bible does not state
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