Allowed? :\ Because of freedom of speech, that's why. Call yourself a Leprechaun-Martian if you want. No one has to "allow" you to call yourself anything.
363 days ago | Tagged As: allowed by whom
Reverse racism is rampant in this country. Minorities trash whites all the time in movies, music, tv, etc. The whole thing about giving "african americans" anything because they are black perpetuates their victimhood. Affirmative action, diversity programs and such tells minorities that they can't compete without help. It holds them back because they feel "special" or different. Btw....what would happen if we had White Entertainment Television, or White history month, or The United White College Fund. And why can't I call them colored when the C in NAACP stands for colored.
Reverse racism? What is that, acceptance? If you think that people are being racist towards you, fine, but don't use terminology that doesn't make any sense. The reason for programs like affirmative action is because African Americans were unable to make nearly as much money in the earlier part of this country's history. This meant they couldn't afford to get a good education and they remained impoverished. Even though many of the terrible racist institutions that existed early in our nation's history are now gone, their legacy still remains. Also, there might not be a "white entertainment television" Channel, but there are Italian Festivals, St. Patricks day and a whole lot of other European oriented celebrations. It has nothing to do with excluding people, it has to do with celebrating a groups culture. Finally, the NAACP was created about 100 years ago when the language was different. Since then the term colored is associated with a time when African-Americans were second class citizens people don't want to hear it.
363 days ago | Tagged As: A Racist Debate
I see your point. But his point I think is to get over it. Many black comedians crack racist jokes about blacks themselves, many even use the word "nigger." That being said, if they hate racism, fine, but don't live by a double standard.
Telling them to get over it and ignore the past because we're equal now, is like breaking both of someone's legs and then challenging them to a race. I'm fine with racist jokes by whites or blacks or anyone else for that matter so long as their jokes.
Exactly. If they feel so strongly against racism, they should not be racist to whites. I'm not racist, but it pisses me off to hear a black guy get all up in arms on white people for no reason. Our race made mistakes. But so has theirs, in fact, many Africans sold fellow Africans into slavery. So they need to get over their issues. Move on.
I might come over to where ever you are and make sweet love to your brain. OMFG im glad someone sees things clearly. What would W.E.T have on it though.. Stock reports hahaha. But really like Affirmative action is bullshit. Someone gets the job because they are black not because they are the best for the job...All the blacks who voted for Obama skewed the election results. Tecnacally we still dont know who the best president would be. I recently heard where howard stern went into harlem and interviewed blacks about who they were voting for. They all said Obama of course but then he asked them how they felt about Obamas views. Instead they said that they were obamas views but used McCains views. The finial was they asked them how they felt about sarah palin becoming president and they said and i quote " I think she is alright i mean we could have the first black man and the first white woman"..........ABSLOUTLY EMBARRASING to the human race.
363 days ago | Tagged As: Ignorance
"Skewed the election results?" They voted. They won. Get over it. And yes, we know who the best candidate was, as it certainly wasn't McCain. And you've got the Howard Stern thing a bit wrong. He found Obama supporters, then said, "Do you support him even though he plans to [McCain's plan]?" Then they'd agree. It wasn't so much that they were completely misinformed as completely ignorant. In any case, consider the mechanics of this: it's not a study, it's not unbiased, and they could cherry-pick whatever they wanted into the program. Technically, you could have pulled the same trick on any major candidate. But I guess a lot of people are eager to believe this bullshit because of latent racism. Oh well.
If you want racism to end you shouldn't engage in racist debates. Why? Cause race doesn't matter, simple. Debating whether this or that is racist IS racist. We don't debate whether things are offensive to people with large curved earlobes, or straight, why? Cause it doesn't matter one damn bit on who the person is.
362 days ago | Tagged As: Ignorance
Well said. But (jokingly), this is a good way to pass the time.
Black people should be allowed to call themselves African Americans because we have bigger things to worry about than what people decide to call themselves.
They call themselves African Americans because they want to. Nobody 'allowed' or gave them 'permission' to do so. There is also nothing inherently wrong with referring to someone as being an African American.
360 days ago | Tagged As: Stupid Debate
Because that's what they are?
363 days ago | Tagged As: Stupid Debate
Why not? White people can call themselves caucasian if they want to(I apparently can't spell caucasian, sorry about that). I think everyone should stop stressing about perfect terminology and just love everyone equally...or at least not based on skin colour, belief systems, etc.
Sure, call yourself anything you want to. Democracy is about diversity more than solidarity. I just object when Americans call Africans who live in England or Africa "African Americans." (Facepalm)
I mean I understand that their ancestors came from Africa but nintey percent of the people here now who call themselves African Americans have never been to africa and some of them couldnt tell you where it is on a map. People who are actually from Africa and come here want to be called Americans! As they should. If you live here you should call yourself an american. Africa owes them nothing. Im scottish by decent so maybe I should call myself a Scottish Australian because my people were enslaved there. Dont give me this we suffred bull shit. When you got a chance you all got set free on Harriet Tubmans underground Railroad. Aka the TUBWAY. Just kidding about that last part but really like youall say you want to be treated equal but then you want to have Black history month.(Shortest month of the Year) And you want to have mrs black america. Why is that??? I thought you wanted to be equal. If we denied you the right to have these perpostrious event and displays of reverse racism then you would call us racists. Where I live in Richmond VA (the capitol of the Confedracy) a bunch of blacks protested aginst people with Confedrate flags. Its NOT RACISM ITS HISTORY. Just like you want us yo know that your all "suffred" we want you to know that where you lived your momma and daddy were gettin hog tied and whipped if they stepped out of line. Im not Racist Im RACIAL. There is a differance. I dont dislike black people. I dislike the things they do because they think we owe them something. I did not enslave you so stop acting like I did.
363 days ago | Tagged As: Ignorance
Well said. Yes, they need to get over this mindset that we "owe them." Its bullshit. Yes, it was terrible, and I'm sorry it happened. But on the other hand, if their ancestors hadn't been brought over here as slaves, then they would all be stuck in the hell that is modern Africa.
81 days ago | Tagged As: Ignorance
Your dumb...should we get rid of St. Patrick's day too? How about Cinco de Mayo? Celebrating your culture should not be something people (like you) ridicule. As for the confederate flag, it's unAmerican. The confederacy tried to start a new country because they no longer wanted to be a part of the United States. As for your argument about history, would you hang a Nazi flag in Germany? That's history too!
363 days ago | Tagged As: MHSaunderz is kinda dumb
Really thats funny because as I remember it I think that the Nazis tried to take over the world. Thats pretty different to starting a new country because they didnt like the views of their current one. A confederate flag IS AMERICAN. It is part of american history. So if what you are saying is true then I should go to Australia and ask for forgiveness from the government and from people whos great great great great grandparents MAY have enslaved my people? Tell me how that has effected them in their lifetime? They are free now. Free AMERICANS. What about when they tell people from Africa that they can call themselves African Americans. My point exactlly. Im pretty sure that Mrs. Black america has nothing to do with culture it is called REVERSE RACISM. Blacks try to turn it around into a way where if we say no then we are "racists." Jesse jackson is one of the biggest racists out there aginst white people. Now a days it does happen and we need to realize it.
363 days ago | Tagged As: Ignorance
Soc, you'll never stop this one. He is so filled with ignorance that you'll go blind trying. Reverse racism! You don't need permission here to have a Mrs. Black America pageant...all you need is an audience, and that they have!
363 days ago | Tagged As: A Racist Debate
So what you are saying is that we refused to let Blacks into the mrs america pageant that no one would have a problem with that???? I am not filled with racism. Im filled with 28 years of blacks trying to take more than what is rightfully theirs. this is absloutley rediclous if you dont think that Reverse Racism is running rampid in this country.
363 days ago | Tagged As: Ignorance
I have to try though. Maybe I can show him the error of his ways at an impressionable age.
363 days ago | Tagged As: A Racist Debate
Reverse racism? Well racism is discrimination of people based on race, so would reverse racism be acceptance? There are plenty of cultural pageants for white people. There are ones for Italians, Irish people, and whole host of other Europeans. White is not a nationality. The reason African Americans don't have these same cultural activities based on their specific nations (kenya, ghana, the congo, etc...) is because most of them don't know where their ancestors came from. Why? Because the slave owners didn't care to right the information down when they were shipped over. What Jesse Jackson is doing is trying to gain equal rights and end racism. Whites are not oppressed so there is no reason to have an equivalent. Are you saying that you feel oppressed as a white person? Do you know what it's like to be a minority? These issues require better solutions then the simplistic accusations that pour out of you like verbal diarrhea.
363 days ago | Tagged As: A Racist Debate
Jesse Jacksonis for Jesse Jackson. He sees an opportunity to shake down a corporation and that's what he does. BTW, no down vote because I'm just against J.J. and I don't have an opinion the rest.
Yeah, honestly I don't agree with everything the guy does. He is a little extreme for me.
Umm yes actually i do feel opressed as a white and i do know what it is like to be a miniority. Out of 2000 students at my school I am one of 200 whites. Shocking. I was given inschool suspension because i spoke up and said something when I found out that every other "white" school in our district did not have to attend a drug awareness program. I have never done drugs and never plan to. I spoke to my grade level admin and he(a black man) gave me inschool because I opposed his views. Here is how the conversation went. I stepped into his office...Hello Hayden how are you today? Not very good I replied. Oh and why is that? I feel that it is redicilous that I must attend a drug awareness program when I could be at home. I know you can sit here and tell me all day that I has nothing to do with race but because we are a black school we have to do it. He Stood up and said GET OUT OF MY OFFICE NOW. He sent me out with a pass to TAP. Teacher ALTERNATIVE PLACEMENT. Also I recieved 2 additional days of inschool suspenssion. Absloute iggnorance. My parents raised hell but of course it did no good. The point you all are missing is that they were already being enslaved by their own people when they were brought over here. People being stoned to death....If you can tell me why we take all of the blame for enslaving them when they were slaves before they came here i will give you the password to my account and you can cancel it for me. That was the point of this whole arguement. That they should be called something other that Americans because they are black. Should I call myself a Scottish American?? Or better yet a Scottish Australian because stotts werer enslaved there.
363 days ago | Tagged As: Ignorance
First let's talk about your suspension. You see everything through the lens of race and therefore didn't think maybe there was some other reason for the drug awareness program. Do you want them to send just the black students? Do you want them to exempt you because your white? I don't know where you go to school or the policy but I'm guessing there is more to it then your simple mind came up with. As for the whole slave thing, maybe you should pay better attention in history class. Slaves that were being taken in Africa were treated practically as equals. Slaves could even hold high government positions. The slavery was based on capturing people during war and there was no belief that the owners of the slaves were somehow born superior. When Europeans began the slave trade they treated the slaves like livestock. They assumed that, because of their race, they were superior. Some even went so far as to say they were helping the slaves by bringing them into a civilized society. These actions birthed modern racism. Also, by taking millions of slaves from Africa, we basically fucked over the entire continent. It's still in ruin from the economic exploitation of European nations. Finally let's address the most revealing of all your comments: "Should I call myself a Scottish American?? Or better yet a Scottish Australian because stotts werer enslaved there. This actually made me laugh, not because of what you intended it to mean, but because it shows how dumb you really are. First off, yes, you can call yourself a Scottish American, just like some people call themselves Italian Americans (like my father) or Asian Americans or any other type of American you want. Secondly, I think you don't understand that only blacks living in America call themselves African-Americans. If you went to England or France or Germany or any other country blacks there would not be calling themselves African Americans. So, unless your from Australia, or currently live in Australia (which I know you don't), you shouldn't call yourself a "Scottish Australian American." That is unless you want people to think your retarded.
362 days ago | Tagged As: MHSaunderz is kinda dumb
Not only have they not even been to Africa, they don't even have afros like in the 70s. ;)
Ok, I can't deny it..That was hilarious!
I do try. But some just don't see the humor.
If ever there was/is a reason to identify a heritage as a dual entity this is it. You don't even know enough to call the TUBWAY by its correct name..The Underground Railroad! Thousands put their lives on the line to do this and thousands were not set free because of it. You don't know your history on this subject. When Lincoln abolished slavery in 1865 do you think slaves gained any rights except on paper? 100 years later they first began to realize a few and I mean a few of those rights. Being an African-American finally acknowledges their original descent and it will probably be that way for another 100 years. They were never Americans because they were never treated as such. Why begrudge them that when they finally have an identity? Perhaps with the election of the first Black man as President we can come away from this distinction but who knows and who cares. Let them have it without whining abut it. If there wasn't still such racism in the South I might agree with the Confederate flag issue as a part of history, as it was just that. You are no longer the Confederacy so why fly that flag at Government buildings and why such an outcry? In this country you can call yourselves anything you wish to if it makes you happy. Black History month is an important part of their and our history. Why don't you listen and learn from it? Do we owe them something? You bet we do! We kidnapped them from everything they held dear and then we enslaved them as oxen in a field. What's the difference between being racial and being a racist in your mind? And what is this nonsense about your momma and daddy were getting hogtied and whipped? If there is someone who is the epitome of racism, you must be their poster boy!
363 days ago | Tagged As: A Racist Debate
Utter bullshit....That is all you said. The hogtied and whipped thing was a joke. I understand that it shouldent be a joke but i did joke about it. It is rediclious that you would say that we owe them anything. I DID NOT ENSLAVE THEM. ME PERSONALLY, No Ma'am I did not. I feel I owe them nothing. I dont feel Australia owes me anything which was the main point of my arguement. Why do they think we owe them anything. What you dont understand is that they were slaves in Africa BY THEIR OWN PEOPLE before we brought them here. Is it my fault that they were not treated equal. Hell no. Im a southern boy at heart and I have been since I was a young one. Im 28 now and feel the same way. Australia's people currently. Currently being the key word. Do not owe me a thing as I currently do not owe BLACKS anything.
363 days ago | Tagged As: Ignorance
Utter bullshit...yes, now you've got it right. That's what you spew when you have no real reply...utter bullshit. OMG...you're 28? Did you ever go to school?
363 days ago | Tagged As: A Racist Debate
Yes i did thank you. Im a proud Graduate of UGA with my masters at Virginia Tech......
I'm sorry but that is almost too funny to believe. How could you have gotten that far the way you spell? It's not to be believed that any college would let you through without being able to write properly. I'll have to look up the ratings of these schools. They mustn't be very high.
Sorry for not being the best speller...? Its a fucking debate website. WoW ur pretty intense on the keyboard. JFC you are ignorant.
And what has that to do with anything? You should be able to spell no matter where you're writing! Another let's get away from the subject matter tactic? It's not working! Yes you are ignorant but that's not my fault, it's yours. Now, I have nothing further to say to you since you cannot back up any statement you make on your own debate. AMEN!
363 days ago | Tagged As: A Racist Debate
Sorry Im not taking all the time in the world on my reponses....to be 100% honest. Im 15....you have been losing a debate to a 15 year old. how does that make you feel? I bet you feel like a bad ass. I can back these statements up. Its common knowlage that his name is BARACK HUSSIAN MOHAMMED OBAMA...........Cant help that. Sorry I have a life and dont live on this website like you with 1298 posts. Embarrasing. My momma always said people like you(that is people who cant ever be wrong) have alot on their mind. I now see she was right. Ok so maybe I was wrong about the Vegetarian thing. I admitted it. Just figured that you would get off of my back if you thought I was 28. Guess not. Thats fine. Your choice but I dont want to hear shit about my parents should have raised me better because they raised me just fine thank you very much. I have my own brain and can think for myself. I dont like obama or the things he has to say but i do understand if he is killed that it will hurt this country.
363 days ago | Tagged As: Your Right Im Wrong guess its wht u want
I truly haven't lost anything. I had it right from the beginning...you're underage and it glows in the dark when you register your ideas, opinons, etc. You can't and haven't backed anything up yet and you won't because you can't. I care nothing for your vegetarian posts and I didn't start to "get on your back" until this debate. You're a first. It only took one debate for me to make you an enemy. Enjoy the silence.
I can agree that what our ANCESTORS did was wrong. However, you cannot blame countless generations for the mistakes of the past. That just perpetuates the problem. Get over it. I don't get pissed at white jokes, why? Cause its a joke. Stop with the pity us crap. Move on. I am not racist, so why say I am racist just because I am white? That is real racism right there.
81 days ago | Tagged As: Ignorance
First off. Im sorry for any stir I caused yesterday. Not a good day for me..... Hope we can put it behind us. Ok lets get on with it You all missed what I was saying. it. I understand I can call myself that but I dont get offended if people dont call me that. If you call me white I dont care. they care if you call them black/colored/a negro/nigger/nigga...etc. It just doesnt make since to me. Maybe Im a redneck? Probably. I grew up in the downtown area of Richmond VA. Blacks and white class workers. Maybe the furtest thing ffrom a redneck. You all can think I a racist if you want and I know that you do. It doesnt changge my opinion. I know that we have the right to call ourselves what we want but do we have the right to get offended if people dont call you what you please?
362 days ago | Tagged As: A Racist Debate
I don't think they really want to be called African Americans. I have several friends who are black and they all tell me they aren't African American, they are American. The term was created by someone in power. You know who holds the power in this country? White people, so I don't wanna hear should black people be allowed to call themselves that... when it's the white people in power that told themselves to call them that.
359 days ago | Tagged As: People in power gave them it
I think it was just a sociological term that got out of hand when the PC movement came around. Not really a conscious effort on anyone's part, but you're right in that it serves to differentiate them, and possibly hurt racial relations.
Black people or the so-called Blacks should seize the term African American and focus on the real agenda. Surely todays Black people were descendants of Afica, like the Irish, Italians, Polish,Jewish, etc. Every so- called race is a descendant from another country,but they do not called themselves what this mainstream society call Blacks. If any of these groups, Blacks included were born here they are indeed American regardless what so-called color they are. I do not approve that Blacks only should be called a name that specify their group. White America should do the same. Why call Black people African American when the so-called Whites immigrated here from thier original boundaries country. Black people are not immigrants and can not emulate them. They came here against their will which the European Whites kidnapped hundreds of years ago.
I think the problem here is double-standard racism. Read my other posts in this debate for that argument. Anyway, my issue is that if we are supposed to be one AMERICAN PEOPLE, why should we drive ourselves apart with racial labels? I don't go around saying "I'm a Swedish American," I just say "I'm American and proud of it." We are one peolpe. We need to get past this point of racial labeling one another.
81 days ago | Tagged As: Ignorance
Same reason I'm allowed to call myself an Austrian American. But I don't ..........
81 days ago | Tagged As: Stupid Debate
Why should we care how people identify themselves? i could declare myself the Ruler of All The World, because of my free speech; this wouldn't make it technically correct, but I can still say it. Let people identify themselves as freely as they choose.
80 days ago | Tagged As: allowed by whom
Only if I can call myself a Scot-Chippewa-Irish-Cherokee and make everyone else do the same.
362 days ago | Tagged As: Ignorance
You certainly may! 50 times 50 is 50 times 50! It is also a pain in the butt!
What to call them, where to put them, when to hire them? Sounds like you are dealing with a group of immigrants from outside of America.
353 days ago | Tagged As: Stupid Debate
ok people The point of this whole arguement was that black people want to be called something other than americans. I dont call myself a Scottish American. Do you call yourself a(n) (Insert Nationality Here) American? Im White. Im a White American.
363 days ago | Tagged As: Ignorance
White is a color and not attached to any country. I am German-American and Italian-American and identify myself as such. Black is also a color that is not necessarily attached to any nationality even though the overwhelming odds are that they were stolen from the coasts of Africa. People should identify themselves in any way they wish, whether you like it or not or whether you do it or not.
251 days ago | Tagged As: A Racist Debate
I'd hate to say it, but you defeat your whole argument when you label yourself as white american.
You can call yourself anything you please! Yes I sometimes call myself a German-American and sometimes an Italian-American. What the big deal? Being a White-American shows no ethnicity, that's just plain ridiculous! No, the issue was that they wish to be known as African-Americans and haven't taken the word AMERICAN out of what they are. You are just about as ignorant as it gets. Keep talking Saunderz...keep showing everyone what a Confederate Red-neck you really are. What gets me that in 2008, you're not even ashamed of yourself for thinking this way and perpetuating the prejudice you hold fast to. It's truly disgusting!
362 days ago | Tagged As: A Racist Debate
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