Will Mac Ever Beat PC?
Yes Mac is Awesome!
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PC is by far better.
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I own a $2000 Mac, and a $1400 PC. I am a Digital Designer, Avid Gamer and mild Computer Programmer (I build computers, write basic programs etc.). I feel well versed in both Operating Systems, but must admit I have a sweet side in my heart for Mac. Don't get me wrong I love PCs, its just a matter of practicality for me which decides what I use. I use my PC for what it does best. It's got twice the power of my Mac for much less money, so for 3D rendering and Motion Graphics I would say PC hands down takes the cake (As well as gaming but thats obvious). Also since it is a tower, I can easily upgrade one part at a time keeping my computer on the fresh side of technology. On the other hand I love the "Mac World" and how nicely the OS is synced with other Mac applications and hardware. I think Vista tried, but Leopard just blows it out of the water in terms of a more user friendly interface and ease of compatibility. I forgot how much of a pain in the ass installing and configuring drivers could be. Also the way Mac handles graphics and the stability of the OS makes photoshop and Illustrator work a little more efficient (google it if you don't know why yet... stability, Unix, software the whole shabang). So to get to the point. IF... macs ever decide to become more affordable then I could see myself running solely the Macintosh platform. But as long as PCs are the only truly customizable/cheap alternative, I would say they will continue to dominate the market. Macs are only better if you can utilize the benefits... which some people would not. There is more to touch on but I'm bored of writing. That'll do. Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
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Apple will eventually hold the majority market share over PC due to its much bigger pension for innovation and security. Macs are built on UNIX, an infinitely more stable OS than Windows. Steve Jobs also happens to be a marketing genius, compared to Microsoft who has basically been running on auto-pilot for the past 10 years. Side: Mac
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Question makes no sense. That's like saying will a sedan beat a coup. They have two different purposes. The Mac and PC share general purpose attributes which makes the Mac the better system for a variety of reasons ( lack of virus, ease-of-use, security, etc). The PC is a gamers' rig. An area Apple has not sold into. Naturally, gamers will prefer PCs. In certain applications such as MS Excel, the PC has the larger installed base. Overall, if you measure the new comers onto the Mac or PC platforms, Apple is adding more users based on ipod, iphone, and other accessories sales. Mac Wins. Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
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Well I would also add that microsoft has other accessories too. Take the Xbox and all those sold, all the games of COD etc. This console then adds the kinect and more games to support this. Windows also has an OS for phones and is spreading into the market of apps too. No, it's not a PC but neither is an iphone or ipod. I do not like the xbox, iphone or ipod to be perfectly honest. I am a gamer and do prefer PC of course, we get better FPS. I have more flexibility too with overclocking and doing what I want in my opinion. But I find that gaming (and entertainment in a nutshell) goes above and beyond logic. I can't see Mac winning due to all the above, not forgetting that in most companies and educational areas Microsoft is there. I am not a microsoft lover, please don't think that. I simply seek the best performance; that goes to PC. Side: PC is by far better.
I don't necessarily agree that mac is far superior to Windows or any other product, nor will it ever take over a market dominated by Windows. Personally I like Mac OS X and it is the only OS I choose to use. But I am not a PC gamer, if I were, I would definitely be using Windows. I do think that Mac OS X will gain more and more market share and become even more compatible with other operating systems. Eventually Linux will take over though... probably. Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
I don't know much about it, but I'd guess a lot of Apple's income comes from the fact they _aren't_ compatible with other OSes and you can't get plug-and-play stuff for Macs that Apple doesn't make, right? So that's a pretty strong incentive for them to keep a monopoly on the Mac-using market and not make compromises with who can make peripherals for their computers. The iPod and its million bastard children and the iPhone are making money for them, but I don't think that's a reason for people to buy a computer off Apple, and I don't think the mp3-playing market they've gained is giving them any reason to make their computers play nicely with Windows or Linux. So I don't really see where your argument's going. Side: PC is by far better.
There is plenty of plug and play hardware available for Mac that is not made by Apple. Most hardware can be plugged in and not have to worry about drivers like Windows. Don't forget about Boot Camp, which allows Windows XP to run on a Mac, essentially making it a Windows PC. Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
You bring up compatibility, but you seem to have mistaken Apple for Microsoft. Microsoft has trouble keeping compatibility between versions of Office, much less with other platforms. There are still a lot of websites to this day that are incompatible with any browser but Internet Explorer for the specific reason that Microsoft eschewed compatibility with the agreed upon standards. Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
Plug and Play is better for Mac, actually. The point at where you lose your advantage with the mac is in software development and support. For instance, if you have an odd mp3 player with all sorts of customizable features and only has Windows software, and you cannot find someones homebuilt application to work on the mac, the mac will treat it as a removable disk. You can still find your way through the file system on the mp3 player and move/copy/paste/delete things from the directory, but you will not be able to interact with the mp3's internal memory, to change certain things. Like, I have a blackberry pearl 8100, and I cannot use it w/ my mac like I can with a windows machine because of the lack of support for OS X. It's not the OS's fault, it's not the hardware's fault, it's software development. I can still add music and pictures and do all of the things that have to do with disk access and management, but when it comes to things like firmware updates for the phone, I have to use Windows. :^/ Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
I agree that Linux will eventually take over. The only thing holding back Mac software is the absence of a strong Open Source community. The only reason Windows software is more popular is because if something goes wrong, someone has an open source solution. Who goes to Microsoft for help? Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
It doesn't matter because as long as those who love their pc's, there is less motivation to actively create virus' for mac users. Plus, for most people, surfing the web and playing solitaire are their biggest computing needs. Those of us who have creative minds and enjoy their computers to never crash and intuitively work with you, we will stay with our mac's. Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
With Mac's ease of use, which has always been their best asset, along with the ability to now STILL have Windows (XP or Vista) running simultaneously, the need for a PC only computer is greatly diminishing. People have always wanted simplicity and reliability. Mac provides both of these by maintaining K.I.S.S. (keep it simple stupid), while Windows has only grown more complex and aggravating with subsequent OS's. Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
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Open challenge to PC users: Let's randomly select 100 people who are entering the realm of personal computing, determine what MOST people want to do with their computer, and see who figures out how to do it faster. Your ignorance would be astonishing if you said PC. Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
I'd certainly like to see that. I've seen first-hand how confusing Macs can be to new computer users. There is no obvious way to start unless the application you're after is in the dock then you have to guess or roll over each icon to learn what the application is called - which may not give you a clue. Once applications are installed there is no menu into which they are listed. The Applications folder often contains sub-folders with confusing binary files. Making windows larger or full screen is difficult, sometimes the resizing widget is obscured and new users don't know what the traffic lights mean - in fact - I still don't know what the middle one does and I've been using Macs since OS9! Side: PC is by far better.
Your bias is showing. The same can be said about windows. Just because there's a start button doesn't mean someone that is computer illiterate can just start using it right away. when you install an application from CD, it's just as easy as windows. When from the internet, it's easier. In Windows you get an installation .exe that lands on your desktop. Mac, you get a .dmg, the suffixes to a n00b mean nothing but gibberish, so .exe and .dmg mean nothing. Windows requires you to click the .exe, mac automatically mounts the .dmg, and the application is inside, just like a folder, with readme's and all, then all you do is put the application where you want it, it doesn't automatically install to your program files like in windows. In Windows, you get hoards of folders and files for an application, and if you have no shortcut for it, to clutter your desktop with, you'll have to search for the .exe for the application. In OS X, all of the files that run the app are in the contents of the application package... under the icon of the application... which means, if you're looking for the application, all your looking for is the icon or name... not the folder and then the .exe. The applications folder rarely has a .bin unless you put it there yourself... in fact, even though I have tons of Unix apps in my applications folder, there is NO .bin the .bin's and the .dmg's are like the windows equivalent to install.exe's, that people usually have all over the desktop, or just throw away. It's not hard to figure that out. The Maximize button blows up a window to the size it needs to be to fit on your screen and show the contents of the window... so if there's little info in the window, it will not take up your whole screen displaying it. The Minimize is obvious and the red one is too... but rather than closing an application, it just closes the window (Some applications that you only need to do one thing with when the window is open will close the application when the window closes). Also, when you're at the desktop, it says "Finder" at the task bar (that is always there no matter what you're doing, in the same spot). If you click that, you can open a new window... you don't have to click the finder icon in the dock. Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
Terrible question. But Mac is superior to PC which is an argument against the other answer. But Apple always does their best work when they're fighting against an empire. Back in the 80's the empire was IBM. Today it's Microsoft. They need that kind of villain in order to push themselves. Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
Apple did fine fighting itself in the 80's. IBM wasn't that big of a deal to them at the time... they both did computers, but Apple had the idea that they would bring the computer home. IBM's were primarily business machines (obviously) that people only wanted for word processing and calculating... taking one home wouldn't be as fun as taking a Mac home... Apple and the Macintosh division fought a lot, and competed with each other... but I don't see a down side. Look at formula 1, 14 thousand changes to a car each season, because of competition... Aircraft engineers are just now starting to use the same material that Formula 1 was using in the late 80's... competition brings progression. I see no downside. Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
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Hands Down,mac is hands on ` user friendly.. I'm a grandma mac user and have been since 1994. It's all about willingness to go with the creative flow with mac, using instead of swimming against, the current. The intuitive, the ease is the 21st century transition from 'making things harder than they need to be, and enforced reliance on a "geek".. to joy of connection and learning for all of us!! Our youngest grandkids are making choices to wait till they come home to use the mac, because the p.c. at school is "just too 'dumb". There seem to be natural choices, macs used in Qi Centers, by people in spiritual growth communities. A movement away from consumerism to sustainability, as the elder Macs have lasted longer for relevance' than disposable p.c.s It seems true that, Life doesn't invite the 'changing face of the future in, we've always pushed our way in with reason' behind a fierce sense of loyalty to what we value. Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
LOL please!!! LOL LOL ummm key word Market... well first u have to have something to market :) You guys have admited that they dont make alot of things for MACs games, software etc wonder why.... Let me guess you all think a MAC is more secure than a PC too??? please someone say something yeah like what viruses are for macs or soemthing like that...LOL there is a reason MAC's dont get viruses its cause there not used like PC's are.... Give me a MAC and a PC beside each other with all ther dandy security tools you can possibly run.... PC will win it has the most experience in that field... MAC is not more secure it is less secure for the fact its never had the market for hackers to attack the OS massively. It has a ton of exploits...there jsut now starting to hit... www.securityfocus.com is a great place to hang out. NEXT! Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
I'm not going to hold the way you are talking against all PC users, but it's hard taking you seriously when you sound like a kid. PC stands for Personal Computer. MAC stands for Media Access Control which is the name of an address built into your ethernet devices. Apple computers aren't for gamers, but most Windows machines aren't for gamers either. When you're talking about gaming you're limiting yourself to a very specific crowd and set of system components. Software for OSX is plentiful. If you're working primarily in media you're going to want to use an Apple computer. For general home or business user there's nothing they need that doesn't come on OSX except maybe Microsoft Access. Minus games, OSX leaves you wanting for nothing. The really nice thing about OSX software, especially smaller applications, is that the people who write it seem to care a lot more about what they are doing. If you want an application which does a specific something in OSX you're only going to find a couple options, but they're going to be pretty well done. Do the same thing for Windows and you'll encounter a couple good options and then hundreds of poorly written pieces of crap. Windows does have more experience fending off viral problems, but now you're only talking about new Windows installations. Your spam is being generated by the hundreds of thousands of Windows machines that still have problems and no one interested in fixing them. Meanwhile, most of the marketplace doesn't want to move to Vista where finally Windows users are confronted with a competent security infrastructure. You assertion that OSX is less secure due to lack of market penetration is just silly. You have no evidence to back up that claim. You are essentially making things up. And you need to use the spell check next time you try to post. Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
Apple is the face of computing innovation. While Microsoft and PC hardware manufacturing companies are stuck in the past, Apple is forging ahead, first with the revolutionary iPhone, and with Mac OS X Leopard 10.5, which received critical acclaim far and beyond what Vista achieved. Vista was a step backwards-in security, in functionality, in user interface. Leopard was a step into the future. Don't forget-Apple first implemented mice user interface devices, graphical user interfaces, and computer drawing software. Microsoft , while leading in market share currently, is slowly falling behind the R&D;powerhouse of Apple. There are still those who argue that PCs have more software availability than Macs. To those making that argument, welcome to the 21st century. Macs run just about every consumer application in existence, can run most games, and if you need more, just run Windows on a Mac (Boot Camp, VMWare, Parallels)! Mac bundled software (ahem...iLife) kicks bundled Windows software's ass and will continue to do so. Surely, Apple will overtake Microsoft's market share in personal computing, if not because of their innovation and technology, then because of their user-friendly interface, little to no learning curve, and simply functional software. Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
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It depends on what Microsoft does with it's next release. Windows right now is bloated, trying to support decades old technology and design patterns. The reason OS X still exists and is on the rise is because Apple basically started fresh with OS X (ok to be truthful all OS X is neXt, but fresh when compared to Old World macs), and in doing so allowed it to shed off all those old ideas and stop having to support bad design principles. Granted part of the reason they were able to do this and Microsoft wasn't was because they didn't have the enterprise install bass that Microsoft does, but that doesn't change the fact that it puts Apple in a better position now. So unless Microsoft has plans to radically change what they are doing now in comparison to Windows 7, they are going to be stuck in the same boat as they are now with Vista (Released late, bloated and full of inconsistencies). This doesn't even take into account the fact that Microsoft is rumored to make 7 modeler, which could serious hurt them where they are strongest, businesses. At this moment the brighter future looks for Apple, and I don't see that changing. Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
Macs will eventually take over the computing market in terms of productivity. Mac book already have invaded the college life's of most students and have therefore shown they are better for such things such as word processing. But the real question is...how does Linux come into play? Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
Macs will not take over. People are getting wise to just how insidious the Apple design mandate is. It keeps people on a treadmill of upgrades, produces lots of non-expandable kit to reduce lifespan, is far from environmentally friendly, has relatively poor QA, is costly, prone to massive design blunders and isn't open source e.g. peer-reviewed. Think different and embrace linux! Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
Productivity, not in general. I don't think it will take over the PC market, but it has a very high viability in some situations for computing needs Ex. College students, Music/video production etc. like stated before. Read more carefully before jumping to conclusions... Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
The issues arises from the principles that guide the development of each hardware and software combination. Apple develops hardware and software together, thus Mac OSX is meant to run on specifically designed Mac Hardware. Microsoft develops software to run on any hardware, thus Windows is meant to be universal. So why is Mac better? Because the software and hardware is designed to work together, whereas PC's are designed to allow for universality. PC's will have more issues arise from this. Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
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The mac is AMAZING -first of all, everyone knows that the mac surpasses the PC in gaming (it lets you directly connect the hard drive memory WITH the graphics card) -loading is fast as heck with all this memory, also you can download all you want - but most importantly, you can do ANYTHING on the mac that you can on a PC. LITTERALLY. Mac GIVES you all the software you need and they give you BootCamp. It lets you run your mac as a PC like with the click of a button you can run windows instead of apple. so its impossable that pc can be better because a mac can run as a pc easily. Then you get all the awesomeness of a mac Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
As a I.T. professional who has built her own machines (PC) since age 13, I can say without doubt that Apple's MacIntosh easily and elegantly beats the pants off of anything happening in the PC world. They get the ribbon for ease of use, for embrace of open source, for unobtrusive updates that do not eat your machine alive, and for thin coding solutions. I have just switched from PC to MAC after losing yet another PC to Microsoft's Update and I tell you right now... not only will I never go back, I will, can, and am implementing MAC rather than PC in every company I consult. The days of supporting corporate and market driven "solutions" that are clunky, do not work well together, and require constant supervision to maintain performance, and are priced to bleed you are OVER here. Yes, MAC IS awesome and if you have not spent more than a month with one, you really have no idea how it can be.... when you reach that moment when you stop and say, "Wow... you know, I haven't had a single problem..." well, let's just say it's a powerful thing. Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
As soon as people learn that PC is ripping them off by creating all these firewalls and stuff for extra money that PC's NEED in order to properly run, whereas Mac's come totally equiped with everything you need and upgrades are FREE and easy to get. It even TELLS you when one is available! And now a lot of games can be played on Mac's too. Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
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Pc is ripping them off? that is a joke, right? i mean, besides the fact that mac isnt compatible with half of the hardware out there, so you have to spend loads more for crappy hardware... "PC's NEED in order to properly run" funny. i went a whole 2 years without antivirus software, and only ran the standard FREE windows firewall.. and didnt get a virus. at the end of the two years I got AVG FREE antivirus.. still havent gotten a virus. "It even TELLS you when one is available!" oh. hi. um.. windows notifies you of an update, and automatically downloads it.. for free. btw, Mac does not come 100% prepared. the only reason macs arent as virus prone as PC is because macs arent as popular. Sorry, son, but macs get viruses just as easily, they just need different viruses than windows. there are currently a few mac viruses out there, and as macs gain in popularity, viruses will start to be programmed left and right for them. infact, the point in which mac overtakes teh market will be its downfall, because then the majority of viruses will be written for mac, and it will fall apart HARD because of ignorant mac users that think they cant get viruses - so they dont have an antivirus. btw, linux is free, and can do anything a mac can.. and the way linux is setup makes it almost impossible to write a virus for it. Linux is PC Side: PC is by far better.
People are rejecting Windows Vista because it isn't that much better than XP. Mac, on the other hand, continues to put out some decent hardware and an excellent OS. With the popularity of the iPods, and of course the iPhone, Macintosh is ready to take advantage of Microsoft's bad reputation. Eventually, I think that we will see the tide change in favor of the Macintosh. Or, Microsoft will just simply buy Macintosh, run it into the ground, and our only choice for operating systems will be Linux. Side: Mac
i'm a 14 year old boy and find the mac's so much easier to use than PC's. when i went on my first mac, i was instantly hooked on the thing. the controls were easy to use, the software was easy to navigate through, and if you haven't noticed recently, Mac has passed the biggest PC company, microsoft on the stock markets just last week. Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
I'm definitely a PC person because I play games. And there is just plain more software in general for Windows. However, I think it's no contest from a design perspective. Mac hardware is more standardized (eg, ATI vs Nvidia) and more plug&play;(compare airport to a pc router). MacOS is at least as reliable as XP, probably more - less futzing around, no registry crap -- and then if you consider the lack of viruses that target Macs... Oh and Vista is a total PoS. Only thing that makes me nervous about Macs is they only have one mouse button. That's just... weird. Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
Mac's have two click mice and have been factory compatible with them since the release of OS X in 2000. Before OS X it was a "Cnt+Click" which was more complicated and time consuming, but it was still there. If for whatever reason you don't believe me, because some don't, follow the link: That's the Mighty Mouse, which in a lot of ways sucks, but if you're just using a computer it's great. For gaming you want a different mouse. I agree, Vista is a PoS. Side: PC is by far better.
Macs are superior for consumer and artisitic uses. They are not as problematic as PC's because you don't "upgrade" them with hardware, rather, you upgrade with software. I don't know if anyone here has noticed but Mac software actually gets lighter as it progresses. What I mean is, while I do admit that it's not "lighter" on memory, and lighter on your HD or processor, it can manage itself in a way that it seems lighter. For example, I have an iMac G3 (255Ghz I believe, something very primitive) with only 300-something Mb of 66Mhz SDRAM, and it actually runs better with Tiger 10.4.11 than with the OS that it came out with (MacOS9). Hardware in the Macs are tailored to fit together. They are not meant to upgrade (beyond memory and storage), so Apple fits each part and tests the performance to insure no individual component bottlenecks any other component. PC's have this problem all of the time, whether from a company or custom. You will have the best processor on the planet, the best memory, and the best video card, but your North and/or Southbridge chip cannot manage the performance, thus rendering all of your money and effort illegitimate. That was an example, there are many many many ways to bottleneck performance... and Apple knows that this cannot happen with their machines because one bad (and irreplaceable) part can ruin an entire line of computers. There are so many reasons why Macs will always out perform PC's, whether it's the OS you're running (OSX>Linux>Win), the hardware, the quality of hardware or manufacturing, the warrenty, the initial cost and cost overall (after purchase in the form of hardware/software upgrades or replacements). Mac dominates PC's in usability for both the average consumer and the pro-user. Now, if you're talking $$$ and Specialty applications (Scientific or gaming) PC's are better. For gaming because the market for gaming is larger for PC's because most people don't look at macs. Game developers work to make more money, more PC's than Macs means that they will develop for PC's. Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
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Macs already have beaten PCs. Just because PCs are much more popular does not mean that they have won. All that means is that they are cheap. A new Mac comes with almost all of the software that you need. A PC comes with crappy trial software. PCs do not have as good of hardware, get more viruses, and you need to buy more of the software for them. Macs already have beaten PCs. Once Macs become more popular than PCs is when we need to think about the possibility of them losing. P.S.- Macs are NOT PCs. PC refers to a computer that is IBM PC compatible. Macs have an EFI, not BIOS, so they are NOT IBM PC compatible and are NOT PCs. Just because something is a Home Computer does not mean it is a PC. Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
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I have had a Mac for a year, I still have a Dell PC which has broken down three times. I love my Mac I do use MS office being in college. I am trying to experiment with pages from mac. I do think that Mac is great and in time it could overtake MS or take over such a percentage that Windows would be forced to support Mac programs like pages Keynote, Numbers. The result would be no matter what program a person used another persons computer would be able to open it. If things stay the same I will never buy a PC again. Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
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Lame - sorry. I can't believe you said that. Look at how silly the Iphone stacks up to the current market. Samsung has quicker phones, better screens, cheaper too :P Ice cream 4v is also ahead of the IOS. I love looking back at what people say, and rub it in their face at how wrong they are; they believe they are above others for carrying a brand, seriously? Pfft! Side: PC is by far better.
I do believe so. I am not biased though, I use a mac and PC daily. I love the fact that you can upgrade components in a pc a lot more than in a mac but I love the mac software and how it functions. They both have pros and cons and neither will ever win but mac will, and in my opinion does, rule over the pc right now. Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
Anyone who uses mac and pc on a regular bases will understand why windows are terrible and macs rock. Unless you use both on a regular bases you're argument is invalid. Why spend $600 to $900 on a pc. It's only good for games when you can spend a lot less on a console. Macs win in every other aspect. Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
Normally i would say PC will remain far superior (it is now) but since Steve Jobs died the company has been free to finally start making their computers functional not just aesthetically pleasing. However it will still take a long time for apple to catch up to the level of PCs. Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
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I guess it depends on what your doing, because if you were writing documents and doing . researches a mac would be way easier since u can have many tabs open just by swiping with a track-pad,but if you were to do gaming i don't think a mac would be suitable for that, games take up a lot of space and it makes the mac heat up quickly,so yeah it depends on what your doing, but still macs are portable and are fast running Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
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Actually the rumor of the PC being "targeted" more is just a rumor, The differance is that the mac doesnt let him through their system. Mac's secure their network while PC's you need spyware and firewalls because they dont provide them for you...so I'm saving hundreds of dollars a year and you're spending hundreds on spyware and still being hit with trojan viruses....owned? Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
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The wording of the question indicates, to me, a hardware comparison which isn't technically accurate anymore, since Mac switched it's processors over from PowerPC to Intel in 2005. At any rate the PC's were superior to the PowerPC for a variety of reasons. What drives me crazy about Macs is having only one mouse button. I've used PCs for my whole life so I'm accustomed to the two button system. Since Windows dominates the market, this is probably going to be a continued issue for possible converts. Additionally as far as the OS goes, it's become too specialized and overly niche based. Basically Mac has focused all their efforts on making their platform media based. As opposed to Linux and Windows which continue to try and make their OSes more versatile. Side: PC is by far better.
I agree with pvtNobody here, the mac OSes just don't stack up. They're made for simplicity but without the ability to adapt and change at a level as the Windows and Linux operating systems it'll lag behind. Linux was primarily built around the Unix model: Make a kernel Make software Apply software to kernel Polish into an OS The only reason Mac lost its only chance to beat windows is because back in the earlier days everything that was developed for the mac operating system had to be developed EXCLUSIVELY for the mac operating system. Including software, hardware, and even peripherals. This makes it very hard to obtain specs for the open-source community and the great internet god flows from the open-source community. Before we see Mac rise to power, believe me, we'll see Linux or Unix do just that. On a side note, most servers and even the most powerful PC in the world runs Linux. It's versatile and easy to change due to the way it operates. So it's easy for enterprises to change it to fit their needs. Side: PC is by far better.
Ok so now the mac is compatable with every mouse out there AND the touchpad that comes with it? -comes with right click and left click featues -use two fingers to scroll left-right or top-bottom -use three fingers and swipe left to go back or right to go forward a page -four fingers swipe up to bring up your applications -four fingers swipe down and it clears all documents to the side and pick which you wanna work on. good for lots of tabs and windows Side: PC is by far better.
Mac's ship with two click mice, they have for a long time now. In all actuality, the standard or stock Mac mouse has 4 buttons and can scroll vertical, horizontal or both at the same time for circular motion. The Mac OS is built for the average consumer, but also, if you know Unix, the Mac allows you to be more productive as a power user than windows, and I mean much more productive. Also, OS X may seem like too simple and gimmicky, but as soon as your comfortable with the mac, it can do everything you need to do and more, easier than with Windows. Windows is cluttered and not thought out as well. For one easy example, look at how difficult it is to just delete or uninstall an application in windows. Does it really need to consume that much time??? Side: PC is by far better.
Who ever said that I was a windows user? I do use windows for some applications but I prefer Linux. I don't have much experience with Mac, but I've never used a Mac that had more than one mouse button. I've never really seen that Mac had any advantages for me over Linux or Windows. Because Windows is so widely preferred by a wide variety of organizations I don't see Mac gaining much steam over PCs. Side: PC is by far better.
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Translated from Chinese to English via Google: "Perhaps mac design is very good, very humane operation, excellent performance, but because the price is too high, the closed system software, hardware replacement inconvenient to restrict the promotion of the use of the mac, but I still have hope that the mac, Because the mac in the practice of self-transformation, and gradually opening up." Side: PC is by far better.
how does that make sense? more commercials=lower quality? maybe its cause the sales of macbooks is ACTUALLY 7% more, factcheck.com. maybe its cause they have more money then PC, obviously cause they sell more. maybe its cause theyre nice and they dont want people to use Windows which still supports anceint software cause theyre not brave enough to actually erase the CRAP and upgrade. My uncle got the new windows 8 for 100 dollars....just an upgrade. whatd it give him?-faster log ins,louder sounds. thats litterally it Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
obviously you know NOTHING about computers. -adobe is the biggest piece of crap out there but you can still format it to work for mac, it even works better on mac for any standard -adobe is ancient and the mac will originally not like it as much as PC cause its like calling a morse-code-sensor with a cell phone. its alot easier on a PC cause theyre older and outdated. -but if you want it to work as well and even better on a mac, all you gotta do is re-install it (takes 1min litterally) and rightclick on the icon, say format. Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
Excuse me? The Macintosh 128K was released in the January of 1984-the first Macintosh to run a graphics-based user interface, while Windows 1.0-the first PC to run a graphics-based user interface, was released in NOVEMBER 1985: after the Mac! How's that for PC innovation? Side: PC is by far better.
Mac is amazing to anyone who has hated Windows their entire f-ing life, but never knew what to do til they found mac. rbedi100 does have a point, as well. However, I just set up three PCs (two laptops and a desktop) on http://www.linucity.com that would easily beat out a mac on any scale, for a total of about 2 grand, and this is 2/3 the cost of what it would have been for macs. Windows sucks, Apple is good with some kinks that only happened because Steve Jobs is a horrible businessman, and Linux is the wild-card in that you can't always trust it to be what you want. However, if you're willing to put in the time and research you can get the best performance with Linux-based systems. And, if you want your old OS for something you can install it in a virtual machine or build a Hackintosh PC (or both). Side: they are pretty equal
It really depends on who captures more niches. Right now Mac means Apple. However, PC is broad and encompasses way more of the marketplace. If Apple can find a way of taking over certain niches such as computer gaming, I believe they will have a chance, however I don't see that happening anytime soon. Side: PC is by far better.
actually mac surpasses PC greatly in my experiance. -mac can run off its graphics card through the browser which adds better graphics and memory and quality to the game while PC you can not. you need to have a downloaded game to do it. and still, it rarely works - the only way i think mac could be worse in gaming is the reason that pc games dont work on a mac...to most "uneducated PC users". The mac can actually run AS a pc. in fact in running windows 7 on my mac RIGHT now just to sample it. its like it is a PC basically. -so summary:mac actually beats pc in graphics, quality, and speed for games Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
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Mac will NEVER beat PC because Mac is a product of Apple. Apple is a Marketing company that pushes technological products. They do nothing to contribute to the industry that is innovative or creative. (Other than creative Marketing and creative form factor design) It amazes me that they are still able to survive in the Technology Industry at all, let alone actually turning profits. It's all due to their marketing schemes and building on already established technological ideas. iPod and iTunes saved them financially, but they didn't invent the file sharing concept and storing mass music on a hard drive (let alone a portable music player). They merely stepped into play and became a middle man between the music industry and consumer. They did not invent the cell phone, and mobile web browsing and cell phones have been around for years before they got into that market. They have contributed nothing except building on existing ideas and trends. Sure you can make an argument that they improve these technologies, but you can't justify their price points and constant upgrades/updates on their own products. Mac would only surpass PC if advancements on personal computing leveled off...and if that happened, they would not be on top for very long because someone else would come up with a new ORIGINAL idea. As much as I get frustrated with MS and third party products, they have kept the business world moving and have employed many many people and have ensured jobs for the foreseeable future. Apple just offers employment at the Apple store. Side: PC is by far better.
Apple builds on trends with great success, though. It popularised music players quicker than anyone else did, and nice shiny iPod with its scroll wheel is at least improving on an idea. That's advancing the industry in some ways, and Bill Gates and Microsoft have been accused of riding on the backs of others' ideas as well, so I don't really think your argument has reason. Side: PC is by far better.
"They do nothing to contribute to the industry that is innovative or creative." Interesting take. Especially since they use an open-source platform in FreeBSD and give their code back to the community. And they use WebKit for Safari and give that back to the community. What does PC give back? Right. Nothing. PC advancements have leveled off. Ask Dell. That's the exact reason Apple is eating into Microsoft's OS market share. They are doing something different than no other manufacturer is doing. They are a marketing machine. But that's a cultural difference from the world you think you know. Their marketing is superb but it only works because their hardware and software integration are the recipe for success. Apple consistently forgoes the better specs (which you seem to think are all that matters) for a better user experience. That's the key no one else has figured out in their race for better specs. Remove the bullshit, get your users comfortable, and guarantee that your hardware is compatible with your software. It's a winning combination. Side: PC is by far better.
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Whether Mac or PC is better depends on what one wants to use the computer for. Hardcore gamers will always stick with PC because it can be upgraded well. People who only use computers casually will stick with Mac. Overall though, PC is better because once one learns how to use it, it can be put to many different uses. Side: PC is by far better.
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The Mac is like a tricycle. It will never fall on it's side. Nobody dies on a Mac, you always have steady speed and it does not let you customize so you don't ruin it. Anyone can drive a Mac The PC is like a motorcycle. It has unlimited choices. It's hard to drive, but if you learn how to do it, you'll easily reach 150 mph in a few seconds. Many people die in them because it's hard to handle. You can customize it anyway you like. Only people capable of driving transmission at insane speeds with nothing to protect them from falling manage to see it's full potential. The rest of the people die out due to natural selection or quit and buy Macs. I'll admit it makes me a bit biased, but I'm a gamer and all my games work great on my PC. Most of my games don't have a Mac version. Side: PC is by far better.
No it will not. Macs are a fad which will fade after their overly expensive, white and shiny gimmick runs its course. PCs evolve quicker and do not make their users elitist snobs. Of course, they hold a large market stake with the iPod and iPhone but I believe in the long run other more competitive products will edge these pricey gadgets out. Side: PC is by far better.
PCs. They're ubiquitous, better designed, and cross-compatible in a way Macs aren't. I don't think Windows is better than Apple, but there are a wide range of other operating systems that are designed to work on PCs, like, for example, the open source OS Linux. Side: PC is by far better.
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Invalid. Mac OS X is based on a BSD subsystem. OS X is a Unix OS, like Linux. The only hardware incompatibility between Mac's and PC's in context of OS's was the PPC processor, which did have it's own distro's at the time, but now that Mac has went Intel, they can run all three, Windows, Mac OS, and Any X86 distro of linux (most). Also, PC's are not better designed, they are Frankinstiens. Windows is designed to function with all sort of components, and people code for the components to be compatible with windows because most people have windows machines. Mac closes the hardware via OSX, or should I say, they limit the amount of interchangeable hardware because they build them in such a way that limits hardware bottlenecking or speed traps. Also, they dedicate more time to refining the OS to operate with a certain line of hardware, meaning that your computer is much tighter and balanced. It's like a Miata vs a Dodge Viper. You cannot do much with either, but one can corner, and the other can do an 11sec 1/4 mile... depends on what you need. Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
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Think of it in terms of open-source/closed-source. Like Microsoft software, Mac hardware is totally closed, uncustomizable, and overpriced (Oh, and Apple has a total monopoly over it). PCs on the other hand are filled with variety, customability, and massive competition, which drives prices down and allows for more rapid improvements. P.S. When one says Mac vs. PC, I think in terms of hardware. If you are talking about OS then please specify Mac OS vs. Windows. At least in my mind, PC does not equate to Windows, it is the hardware foundation for which there are endless software possibilities. Side: PC is by far better.
Uh, the only difference between a Mac and PC is that the Mac runs OS X. What I mean is, while you say that Mac hardware is limited, it's only limited when using OS X. If you buy an Apple, throw in whatever hardware you want and run Windows or Linux on it, it is still an Apple computer, and it'll run as good as any PC that you'll get. It's all about support and development. Apple purposely chooses to keep things tight so that they don't have issues with the computer and OS X. Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
PC's are much better for the educated user as it allows you to customize EXACTLY the way you want it. That being said, they do tend to be more complicated and error prone, therefore requiring more computer savvy to become as usable as a Mac. PC's are also much cheaper, and for those who think otherwise, you obviously don't know what your talking about. For a base Mac you generally pay a $200 premium over the PC option, and for any upgrades you end up paying far more than what they actually cost. And for those that think Mac's are good for "graphics", for the most part it is just a marketing ploy designed to reduce the geekiness of the Mac, while in turn making the PC look like the nerds computer. PC's can ALWAYS have better hardware than a Mac, especially when it comes to expansion cards, like graphics cards. This means that they are can be better for gaming, and programs that require top hardware. Most of the professional programs used for video editing, etc. are dual platform or on only PC. Very few are just Mac. This means that Mac has no advantage when it comes to software or hardware for "graphics" and generally has a disadvantage. Macs do have the "stylish" look, but that is really their only advantage. Once upon a time they have been more usable, but Microsoft created Vista to be much more intuitive than XP, almost similar to OS X. Side: PC is by far better.
reasons for pc 1. better games 2. chances are a program will almost always be for pc but not always for mac, and for those garage band fans, there are alternatives for pc which could hold their own against garage band. 3. When you have a problem with the mac you have to go to a mac store and possibly pay tons just to get something that a pc solves online on open source sites. 4. I'm using a mac right now and let me say that most of the features that they hold dear can be found one way or the other for pc or linux. What does it have? aesthetics and only aesthetics. Side: PC is by far better.
ok something that makes mac better for all your problems, Bootcamp. bootcamp is an application that Mac GIVES to you to tell you run your mac like a pc or a mac. all you do is click a button and it can work exactly like a pc. in fact im doing it now just to check it out Plus theres no way to return or fix a broken pc. I just had a problem with my mac (my cup of coffee spilled on the keyboard when my cat hit it-usually with mac itll clean right up but it sat there while i was at work for 6 hours). anyways, i had the decision to get a new computer for my 10 year FREE warranty (PC only gives you 30 days) online or to go to the mac store an hour away to get it. I decided that it was the weekend and i wouldnt need one and to save gas. decided to get it shipped. i asked for a free replacement at friday night 8:00PM, got my new mac saturday evening. free shipping Side: Yes Mac is Awesome!
Now, now, now. Let me remind you of something here. Let's say you go into a store. You are looking for either a laptop for school or a giant stationary juggernaut for gaming. You go look at the PCs. What do you see there? HP, Dell, Packard-Bell, Acer, Asus, Alienware, and many many more. Now you look at the Macs they have on sale. What do you see? No variety in manufacturers or brands, just Apple. Apple all the way. Brands have very different ways of handling warranties on their machines. And Apple has a very limited way of handling their warranties. With anything but a Mac (I'm not saying PCs because Mac is basically a PC too), you get varied warranties. Got a big Gaming Juggernaut, and want to have it work in good condition for at least 10 years? You can most get a warranty from the Store or the manufacturer. Got a Mac? You get the warranty directly from Apple themselves. And another thing, which has been repeated countless times: Openness. With ANYTHING BUT A MAC, you can just open your big baby up and replace whatever part needs replacing. You don't get that with Apple's Macintosh. And I'm not gonna argue about software, because you are able to install Third-Party software on a Mac, but I'm gonna argue about a bigger problem with Apple. They have a very "Unusual" way of handling their products. I'm going to list a few problems here. Most of them are not directly related to the Mac, but I need to get this out. 1. They charge for Software Updates (I know that happens with Windows too, but they only do it for their super ultra major updates that almost completely change the system, compare the difference between Windows 7 and 8. It's immense. And besides, with Linux and the like, you get it all for free anyway, and you can install any operating system on Mac anyway), with OS X Lion/Mountain lion/Tiger/whatever, they fucking PAY MONEY for a simple operating system upgrade. 2. They restrict what you can install on the iPhone/iPod/iPad that YOU paid for. 3. And they are also restrictive with the music that YOU can put on YOUR iPod/iPhone/whatever. You HAVE to use iTunes to transfer music, and this is a big problem for us Windows users, because iTunes runs like CRAP on Windows. I can testify to that. 3. They use strange buzzwords to lure people in to pay money for their products (Retina Display and the like). I know some PC Manufacturers will probably do this too, but they're more on the PC Specs side, since they most of the time don't own the OS that comes with the system, while Mac does this for both sides, Software and Hardware wise. 4. The company that manufactures the Macs, iPhones, and the like is Foxconn, which is infamous for letting their workers work under subhuman conditions. (Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ 5. They release their products without proper market testing (iPhone 4, that ugly mouse that came with the first iMacs, and so on) 6. And finally, and most obvious, they charge obscene amounts of money for cheap Taiwanese hardware in shiny unibody cases. And I'm gonna end by saying that if you want to use a Mac, that's fine, whatever rolls your boat. Just don't think you're superior to ANYTHING ELSE BUT MAC users. And as I said before, I am well aware that you can install other operating systems on a Mac. /herp Side: PC is by far better.
Mac better than PC hrmmmm ummm ok. Me not think so...Mac is great for graphics.... its also great for hmmmm well nothing comes to mind. Its not something i would use in the server world, although there is Mac servers, I have never liked Mac and i started out on Mac...im a PC superuser moreless Linux OS's variety of them and of course windows servers 2003-2008 are pretty good servers, and can be very secure. And in gaming even though Mac is great for like photoshopping it isnt something i would want to play COD4 or Crysis on. BASH! Side: PC is by far better.
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Please provide your sources. And the other line is fucking stupid. Of course your democratic if you vote for the democratic party, that's what the party stands for. And if you vote Republican, then you are a Republican (And most countries are republics anyway, read this for clarity: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic ) Side: PC is by far better.
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PC will always win, not because it is "better" but because it has the least expensive price tag. In the U.S. it is about what is cheaper and more convenient. Right now, PC is cheaper than Mac, more convenient than Mac, and far more attainable than Mac. PC will win as long as Mac keeps their price tags high, however, I'm not sure for how long... Side: PC is by far better.
i love i pod/i phone but mac is wackkkk! the cost does not justify the cost of paying for one. they go for 300 to 400 dollars more on avg for a computer with the same memory and hard-drive and its o.s. is not worth the extra cost. yah more user friendly but not 400 bucks....and its way to yuppy!!!!!!!!!! and i hate those ones users who a hybrid/yuppy pricks...they just rub me wrong Side: PC is by far better.
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I think that Mac is a great gadget but it will never beat PC for sure. There are just too many options in PC that Mac never actually had and it will never have them for sure. Mac is great for some simple actions but not for the important job. That's why I am choosing PC and I will always choose it. Side: PC is by far better.
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It depends on the person. For those who don't know anything about computers and need it to be user friendly. Then Macs are better. For those who are creative and computer smart PC is the way to go. Mac is a limited computer that has basic video, music, and document software without any room expansion. It is great for people who want simple usage throughout the day. PC is better for building, changing, fixing, upgrading, experimenting. Better for Gamers and people who like to make the computer fit to their needs without paying an arm and a leg. For me I like PC. Half the things Macs do I will never use and the other half I know how to do on PC. Crashes? Never had a problem with it. I can upgrade and change parts as desired. I can experiment with software and games as desired. So PC for me is better for enthusiasts. Mac for the average person. Side: PC is by far better.
They will remain in the competition, they just have both high and low situation... but they will stay.. PC only holds almost every company as primary platform of technology. Being a ipad case deisgner for http://www.kekacase.com/, we are individually doing stuff for Apple product, but we are using PC base devices. Side: PC is by far better.
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Only the developer, graphic designer or web designer can know this more. Side: PC is by far better.
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