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Yes, a lesson has been taught. No, Assad is encorrigible
Debate Score:6
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Total Votes:6
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 Yes, a lesson has been taught. (2)
 
 No, Assad is encorrigible (3)

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Will the U.S. led coalition air strikes against Syria achieve it's aim?

The use of chemical weapons by the despotic Syrian regime had to be challenged and the limited ''COORDINATED'' SURGICAL AIR STRIKES served as a cautionary slap on the wrist to the mass murderer Assad and his Russian backers.


Yes, a lesson has been taught.

Side Score: 2
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No, Assad is encorrigible

Side Score: 4
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As all previous diplomatic efforts to have the megalomaniac dictator Assad cease slaughtering his own defenceless civilian population including women, children and babies, specifically by the use of chemical weapons, have failed the airstrikes by the U,S., Britain and France were a necessary evil.

Russia will huff and puff at the military initiative but it should be noted that unlike Putin's and Assad's indiscriminate bombing of non-combatants the coalition's strikes were designed to avoid civilian casualties.

Side: Yes, a lesson has been taught.
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The air strikes were successful insofar that they delivered a heavy message about the unacceptability of gassing civilians, but they will have no impact on the conflict which will continue until the so called rebels are beaten into the ground.

Assad and Putin are utterly ruthless and won't quit until they beat the separatist revolutionaries are totally eliminated .

Side: Yes, a lesson has been taught.
2 points

They were a joke. Putin and Assad have a long term plan and Putin is smart enough to have planned THIS. He is playing Trump like a puppet and Trump still thinks he is a great leader .... just like HE wantstabe when HE grows up!

The FACT that Trump thinks HE is smarter than all the Generals he has fired ... or likely WILL, actually shows how stupid he is!

Side: No, Assad is encorrigible
Antrim(1248) Clarified
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Well,, whilst we're not comparing like with like it was noticeable that President Trump's approach to the Syrian conflict contrasted unfavorably with J.F.Kennedy's handling of the Cuban crisis and Franklin D. Roosevelt's post Pearl Harbour address.

Even on what appeared to be the threshold of WW3 most people felt they were in the secure and stable hands of J.F.K.

Putin is really revving up his anti-western rhetoric and is clearly looking for a fight.

We have learnt from history that appeasement doesn't work, ( refer to Neville Chamberlain's Peace in our time speech upon his return from Munich) so we will have to confront this Cossack War Lord's belligerence.

Ignoring Putin's aggression will only embolden him and he will keep on asserting his extreme left wing agenda.

Side: Yes, a lesson has been taught.
WinstonC(1114) Clarified
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"Putin and Assad have a long term plan and Putin is smart enough to have planned THIS."

How does giving their ISIS and rebel enemies powerful western allies help Putin and Assad? The war was practically over, with Assad well on his way to gaining complete ascendancy over Syria.

Side: Yes, a lesson has been taught.
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It seems not. Most of the missiles were thwarted, and (according to CNN and the BBC) Assad remained unfazed by the attacks.

If chemical weapons were used in Douma, then retaliation would be justified. But if there can be a peaceful, diplomatic solution to the problem, the US should push for it.

Side: No, Assad is encorrigible
Antrim(1248) Clarified
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Agreed, but due to the sensitivity within this region and the probable international repercussions of an air strike any military action was always going to be minimal.

The fact that the Ruscies, using their most modern anti-missile missiles, shot down some 17 missiles means that an awful lot more got through.

Previous, Obama type diplomatic overtures failed to achieve anything whatsoever.

Side: Yes, a lesson has been taught.
WinstonC(1114) Clarified
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Does it make sense that Assad would use chemical weapons at a time when he had all but won the war? Doing so was guaranteed to make the western powers get involved again. ISIS and the rebels benefited most from the attack and so, if we are to make accusations without evidence, it makes more sense to accuse the beneficiaries of the attack.

Side: Yes, a lesson has been taught.
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Hello A,

Nahhh. It’s too complicated. First off, we are allies with Assad in the war against ISIS. Russia is also fighting ISIS. But Assad conflates his citizens with ISIS and Russia does too. We don’t think his citizens are ISIS, and we support them, kinda. Then we got the Kurds who are fighting ISIS and Assad. They’are our friends, but they’re not friendly with Turkey, who are our friends. Then, it gets even more complicated.

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Side: No, Assad is encorrigible