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Yes, no question about it Never, white supremacy lives
Debate Score:55
Arguments:36
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Will white Americans finally get out of the way of progress?

Now that obama has a second term will whites stop being obstices to progress? Can the United States perform a more perfect union without white supremacy being the standard by which the enforcement of laws is the economic foundation of their hate driven social economic policies? That's a fair question. Can the world community only make progress if whites are at the top of every new world order? Is it time to admit that a "new" season has arrived? White power must decrease until black power and hispanic power has become their equal and white supremacy should never again be allowed to hinder the progressive union of the world community.      

Yes, no question about it

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Never, white supremacy lives

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2 points

I think you may have missed a major point about Tuesday's results. While race was huge, Obama's win was clearly more generational Than racial. Especially if you look at the down ticket races and ballot initiatives. Same sex marriage, abortion rights, pot legalization. Older white voters will definitely be getting out of the way because they're dying off. And BTW most people who voted for the president were.

Side: Yes, no question about it
Qymosabi(203) Disputed
1 point

Wrong again.....the message was "together"....we the "people" not we the conservatives or we the "white people or we the christians. It is clear that: a conservative house must work with a liberal senate and a middle of the road President. You lost...GET OVER IT. WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS A MORE PERFECT "UNION".

Side: Never, white supremacy lives
Qymosabi(203) Disputed
1 point

The debate was won because of obamas ground game "and" because of his performace in the third debate.

Supporting Evidence: Obama's masterful third presidential debate (youtu.be)
Side: Never, white supremacy lives
2 points

Qymosabi, you have a very bizarre track record of pointing out race so blatantly in your debates, and yet, you don't really discriminate in this blatant race-talk between any set group of people.

With that said, I don't think white people in America, for the most part, are racist and hate minorities, nor do I think they generally go out of their way to try and limit the other races. Though, because of the events of the past, they do unfortunately do it anyway, accidentally.

Since it's an accident though, and the general intention is to not do harm, you cannot exactly blame them or punish them.

For the most part, I don't think anything really needs to be done. White Americans are easily going to be a minority race in this country within some odd decades, due to breeding between races and immigration. Just as they eventually outnumbered the Native Americans, they will eventually be outnumbered by the Latino and Asian Americans.

And when that time comes, naturally, they won't be truly the most powerful race anymore, whether by accident or intention.

Side: Yes, no question about it
Qymosabi(203) Disputed
1 point

i AM A "BIG" JOHN GIBSON FAN. Race is an issue in this country not because of black people but because of the actively discriminate ways of white people. The "event of the past" are a record that we call "history". Just because wickedness is denied among whites does not erase the "behaviour" of whites. Whites do not accidentally discriminate. A white peoples task force is necessary because whites generally do not police themselves. The American people have spoken for unity not separation. "GET OVER IT"!

Side: Never, white supremacy lives
chatturgha(1630) Disputed
4 points

Race is an issue in this country not because of black people but because of the actively discriminate ways of white people.

They do not all discriminate, nor do all those that discriminate do so intentionally and with hatred or negative desires. You cannot blame all for the actions of the few.

The "event of the past" are a record that we call "history". Just because wickedness is denied among whites does not erase the "behaviour" of whites.

Nobody is responsible for the actions of their ancestors, they are only responsible for their own actions. This is not Feudal Europe. You cannot damn an entire race of people for things they are not all responsible for.

Whites do not accidentally discriminate.

Yes they do. Culture enforces stereotypes against every race, and every race has potential to grow up inadvertently believing things about other races that are not true. This is not necessarily because they are hateful or scornful or because they wish ill upon people of other races. Sometimes, this is just because they could not help how they learned things growing up, and calling them racist for it when they don't want to discriminate in the first place is, within itself, a racist, malicious act.

A white peoples task force is necessary because whites generally do not police themselves. The American people have spoken for unity not separation. "GET OVER IT"!

Discriminating against a group of people because their ancestors or a small group of them did horrible things is the very essence and cause of racism; the vast assumption that everyone in a particular race is the same because of an impression received in the past or from a small sample of said race.

You sir, are not advocating equally and unity with the proposal to treat white people the way you want to. You actually, indeed, advocate separation and discrimination with your suggestions.

Side: Yes, no question about it
2 points

I'd like to put my input on this subject. 'White America' is simply the majority value, but in actuality it's a lot more deeper than that. The concept of race is used to divide and split society into sections. Sectionalism has been practiced all throughout history but we still see it as a stigma to society even though it is clearly exercised WITHIN Society! Whites are individuals not this whole big clump of statement statistic or fact it's simply the individuality is what matters. So at that we can say President Obama is a very widely diverse connected president, but he wasn't voted in to dehumanize whites.

Side: Yes, no question about it
1 point

The time has come for white america to admit that in order to perform a more perform a perfect union they must step down from power and submit to being governed by other people for the good of the country.

Supporting Evidence: Whites should step down from power (youtu.be)
Side: Yes, no question about it

We need the ecomonomics thingy workin right thats for true. .

Side: Yes, no question about it

This is just so idiotic that I giggled a bit. Progress is not achieved by government force but from voluntary exchange by capitalism. Nothing is better than capitalism at this time.

Side: Never, white supremacy lives
Qymosabi(203) Disputed
1 point

Voluntary exchange of capitalism does not have to be designed in such a way the only whites do well. Have you not seen the movie "a beautiful mind"? The American people have spoken....white supremacy....is dead. I'm with mitt Romney on this one, to pray that obama is "successful" in guiding our nation....."period".

Side: Yes, no question about it
2 points

I agree that capitalism shouldn't benefit only white people, and free market capitalism would eliminate favoritism.

Side: Never, white supremacy lives
3 points

It seems to me that while a few white police officers and judges might dish out prejudice treatment and sentences, this says very little to nothing about the president at the time or about white people as a whole. I very much doubt that recent previous white presidents were writing laws like, "whites get 5 years in prison for murder, blacks get 20." If that happens, it's not because it's decreed by the president, it's because of racism and discrimination in the lower levels of our justice system. Obama being in office again is not going to eliminate racism in every crooked cop and judge in America.

Side: Never, white supremacy lives
Qymosabi(203) Disputed
1 point

This is not about the past it's about the future. It's not about problems it's about solutions to those problems. If you have solutions then provide them but if not then you are a waste of energy.

Side: Yes, no question about it
ChadOnSunday(1863) Disputed Banned
2 points

My post did address the future, in addition to the past and present.

If this isn't about problems why did you lay out a problem at the beginning of this debate?

And I don't have to provide a solution if I reject the premise of your problem in the first place. Rejecting that the President decrees "white supremacy" and asserting that the problem most likely stems from the lower levels of law enforcement is not a "waste of energy" just because I don't agree with you.

Side: Never, white supremacy lives
2 points

WHAT? come on people what is the major difference between white and black? i am white and i voted to obama not because he is black but because he is good for america if you are white/black it does not matter one thing will makes us all equal witch is we are all americans

Side: Never, white supremacy lives
Qymosabi(203) Disputed
1 point

We need a "white people task force" operated by whites temporarily to monitor racism and discrimination in every aspect of American culture including financial gorilla activity,housing, employment and the "selective" enforcement of laws in "selective" communities. The nation....has spoken....for "change".

Side: Yes, no question about it
1 point

Sounds kinda racist to me. How about task forces looking for racism and discrimination period ?

Side: Yes, no question about it
1 point

Is this some extreme form of positive discrimination?

Side: Never, white supremacy lives
Qymosabi(203) Disputed
1 point

No this is not discrimination. The "American" people have spoken and they are saying the same thing that black america is saying. It's about "WE" the people not we the "white" people. America wanting a conservative house to work with a liberal senate and a middle of the road president monitoring one thing...."CHANGE". The good o'l boy days...are "OVER". Obama is monitoring the process of a more perfect union "not" discrimination. Whites need to govern..."themselves" so that we can grow as a nation and reject the me,me,me attitude promote a more perfect...."UNION".

Side: Yes, no question about it
1 point

I don't call more federal regulations on businesses, a federal takeover of the healthcare system, and more federal defecit spending progress. Make it about race all you want.

Side: Never, white supremacy lives
Qymosabi(203) Disputed
1 point

This is all about "sharing". White folks do everything....but "share". No cracker philosophies please. The American people have spoken. We want conservatives and liberals to work together,blacks and whites to work together....period. America is moving forward not backwards. If you don't like it...."MOVE".

Side: Yes, no question about it
Revolt(201) Disputed
1 point

You're only mad because a black president is getting stonewalled by Congress. But are there blacks in the Republican Party? Yes. So could one of those blacks become President one day? Yes. So your argument that "conservative" policies are "cracker philosphies" is now dismantled.

Side: Never, white supremacy lives