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Most civs are peaceful Most civs would destroy us
Debate Score:16
Arguments:14
Total Votes:17
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Would the majority of ETs be more likely to prey on humanity or help us advance?

Any civilization capable of interstellar travel is bound to be far more advanced then homo sapiens. Does this mean they will have out grown war like behaviour entirely? Does this mean they have no need for invasive actions against our species and rather than harm us they would rather leave us alone, observe us from a distance or assist us in our advancement and share the resources of this solar system? Or does it mean they would see us as useless insects and turn us into slaves or exterminate us or use invasive procedures to study our biology without consent?

Most civs are peaceful

Side Score: 8
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Most civs would destroy us

Side Score: 8
2 points

Hello F:

If a people have learned how to conquer space, they've learned how to conquer petty bull shit..

Fighting amongst ourselves is what lower form animals do. Smart people/aliens have moved beyond that.

excon

Side: Most civs are peaceful
FactMachine(430) Disputed
1 point

I couldn't agree more. They would have no need or desire to destroy any of the life on this planet.

Side: Most civs would destroy us
1 point

They don't need to destroy us, they only need to watch as we figure out how to destroy each other. I seriously doubt they would willingly share their technology with us when we can't even handle the simplest of things without trying destroy someone who thinks differently.

Side: Most civs are peaceful

I personally would actually lure the aliens in and eat them. You always want to eat the alien before it eats you. Duh... munch munch munch...ooooooh...tastes like? Butt.

Side: Most civs are peaceful

Yet another stupid, ill-thought out debate question.

Any civilization capable of interstellar travel is bound to be far more advanced then homo sapiens.

In which case they would have no interest in us in the first place. Humans don't care about ants and they share the same planet, so why would a significantly more advanced species from millions of light years away consider us worth the remarkable time and effort required to get here?

And it's "than". Then is an adverb invented to signify the time something took place.

Side: Most civs are peaceful
FactMachine(430) Disputed
1 point

Do humans study ants? Are humans often interested in ants? Do most humans go around murdering ants unnecessarily? I may have fucked up my thens and thans, but you are one stupid mother f&@#$*%

Side: Most civs would destroy us
1 point

Do humans study ants?

No. Some humans study ants. Most notably the ones with nothing better to do with their time.

Are humans often interested in ants

No. Only the humans with nothing better to do with their time.

Would you take a journey across the galaxy to visit a colony of ants, you brazen weirdo?

Side: Most civs are peaceful

The libs would say they are aliens of peace, give them $150 billion, and then the aliens would eat them like liberal mcnuggets.

Alien: this food literally jumped in my belly in the name of multiculturism and tollerance. This is fantastic! I can't believe it!

Liberal: The alien doesn't mean that. The alien is peaceful.

Then the alien puts him between two sesame seed buns and gobbles him up like a liberal mcsandwich.

Side: Most civs would destroy us
1 point

Every living species on earth, from the simplest to the most advanced, either eats the others or shares with the others the common task of not getting eaten. So if ETs ever make it here in person the worst they could do is eat us and the best they could do is try to get our help so both they and us won't get eaten by some other ET even worse than they are. Doesn't look good for us either way.

Side: Most civs would destroy us
FactMachine(430) Disputed
1 point

There is almost no possibility they would eat us because they would bring their own food resources and have advanced GE tech and agricultural techniques which would minimize the chance of a food shortage plus there is a strong possibility that ingesting the foreign proteins and genetic material from another planet would be the equivalent of ingesting viruses even if they are similar to us. If you can spread and even create new diseases just through contact with people on other continents then imagine what kind of diseases you can get from aliens, or they could get from you.

Side: Most civs are peaceful
Grenache(6053) Disputed
1 point

I hope you're right. But I think you're making a lot of assumptions.

Space travel does not automatically guarantee GE tech. Why does it have to?

Agriculture is only relevant if a species can't find enough game to hunt and eat.

Foreign proteins is an interesting point, but if they've evolved to travel through space and eat what they find and have been doing so for many generations then they may have absorption abilities beyond our comprehension.

Consider this, if a large group of humans left earth and stopped at some moons around Jupiter or Saturn and found a large amount of organic life forms, like tuna for example, on one of the moons then don't you think it would play out as:

1) First watch some, for study

2) Then catch some, for study

And then at some point if 1 & 2 seemed agreeable, then

3) Eat some.

And then if 3 results in smiles and happy bellies and descriptions of deliciousness, then

4) Harvest many more and just keep eating until moving on to the next place?

Side: Most civs would destroy us

The aliens would come and get on welfare. I assume some are good aliens, but they aren't sending their best. Some of them are rapists, but I assume some are good people...

Side: Most civs would destroy us
1 point

I have seen enough movies to know that they would be up to no good. On Plan 9 From Outer Space they were turning people into zombies and the same happened in Invaders From Mars and the same in The Body Snatchers except in that one they stole our souls.

Side: Most civs would destroy us