CreateDebate


Debate Info

8
10
Yup. it's Racist Nah. not racist.
Debate Score:18
Arguments:16
Total Votes:20
More Stats

Argument Ratio

side graph
 
 Yup. it's Racist (7)
 
 Nah. not racist. (8)

Debate Creator

SatintLater(283) pic



YOUR RIGHTS ARE RACIST!! HISTORY IS RACIST!!! EVERYTHING IS RACIST

So, the Gasden flag, is it racist? Or are people being shitheads?

Yup. it's Racist

Side Score: 8
VS.

Nah. not racist.

Side Score: 10

I feel that the Gasden flag has been ''appropriated'' by those whose political views are well to the 'right of centre' and who have what could be described as an overzealous sense of patriotism. On digging deep into the philosophy of this strong patriotic perception there seems to exist tinges of antiblack sentiments. In a free democratic society I am of the opinion there is nothing whatsoever wrong with adopting this position and using whatever symbol is considered to represent this non-violent political agenda. What I would challenge anyone to do is to explain to me;-- ''USING ONLY ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT, ( I.E, COMPUTERS) POWER SOURCES, ( I.E, ELECTRICITY) A GLOBAL COMPUTER NETWORK,( I.E THE INTERNET) A UNIVERSALLY UNDERSTOOD FORM OF COMMUNICATION( I.E, SUCH AS THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE) A WORLDWIDE NON VISUAL, AUDIO FORM OF COMMUNICATION, ( I.E, THE TELEPHONE/RADIO, WHICH HAS BEEN INVENTED AND DISTRIBUTED EXCLUSIVELY BY BLACK PEOPLE'', My question is,;--HOW AND WHY ARE WHITES NOT SUPERIOR TO BLACKS? I am not stating that this is, or is not my viewpoint. Don't try to communicate using Bongo jungle drums, as their range of transmission is very limited. ''important'';- don't forget the aforementioned criteria for submitting your explanation, if you feel you can provide one.

Side: Yup. it's Racist
0 points

Little Rock Nine Need Military Protection To Go To Public School..Can't Be Racism.

Assassin's bullet for Dr. Martin L. King.. Couldn't Be Racist.

Black Americans Only Have To Give up Bus Seat For Whites Can't Be Racism.

Miss America use to be Whites Only.. Could Be Racism.

Famous White music performers TOOK songs by Blacks dening Blackx.. Couldn't Be Racism.

Black soldiers not allowed in White soldiers clubs.. Couldn't be racism

1950s, 1960s police dogs attacking Black peaceful protesters.

Fire department water hoses battering Blacks against building.. Couldn't be Racism

James Byrd dragged down road behind pickup truck till dead.. Can't be Racism.

George Wallace statement "segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation Forever".. Can't Be Racism.

Dylan Roof Confesses: Says He Wanted to Start 'Race War'.. Can't Be Racism

Side: Yup. it's Racist
SatintLater(283) Disputed
1 point

none of that is racism. if anything it's cultural resistance to integration, the exact same thing that BLM are fighting for in the modern day. we've tried to integrate and now they fear that they cannot be blacks and that their "Lifestyle" their "Culture" is being torn away.

-

But the culture IS inferior. the people aren't. the ideology is. Blacks as a culture experience learned helplessness because they feel that there are factors stacked against them. however so far as I've seen it's just themselves believing they are in a prison cell . and there are countless examples of non-lottery, key to industry jobs that blacks have taken. and what do these people have in common? the fact that they said "I'm not helpless and I can learn" and perhaps the presence of father figures. if their behaviors are inferior, they will be seen as inferior. but behaviors ARE NOT a part of race. and therefore this assessment is not Racist.

-

And this is where all the social justice esque problems seem to stem from. you cannot criticize my ideology otherwise you're a bigot. Now, I'm the first to agree "Different strokes for different blokes" but no ideology is above criticism. so what the hell are black fathers thinking leaving their kids and "Wife" to fend for themselves. what the hell are they expecting when they goof off through school and have a remedial level at everything by the time they reach highschool? the people are fine, but their culture makes them lazy, because they can yell "DISCRIMINATION" when there is none and get away with all kinds of shit. Am I really priveleged because I had parents that beat my ass if I played hookie? and are they really systematically oppressed because their fathers left them to a single mothers, and the teachers are so paralyzed with fear of loosing their job over "racism" and "Discrimination" that they do nothing to correct the degenerate behaviors. for even suggesting this, I'm probably somehow racist. Because I can't critique behaviors.

Side: Nah. not racist.
wisegrip(132) Disputed
1 point

SatintLater I'm presuming the following words of yours is for me.

"none of that is racism. if anything it's cultural resistance to integration, the exact same thing that BLM are fighting for in the modern day. we've tried to integrate and now they fear that they cannot be blacks and that their "Lifestyle" their "Culture" is being torn away."

James Byrd Jr. (May 2, 1949 – June 7, 1998) was an African-American who was murdered by three men, of whom at least two were white supremacists, in Jasper, Texas, on June 7, 1998. Shawn Berry, Lawrence Russell Brewer, and John King

[ "none of that is racism" ]

New York City cop, who had ... 70th Precinct where he rammed a broken piece of a broom into his rectum. .... a stick up Mr. Louima's rectum and asked him if he wanted to see i

[ "none of that is racism" ]

YouTube

Title: White Men Killing Random black people (Captured)

Lrjtv

Lrjtv

Posted comments

SeekTV

SeekTV1 month ago

its so funny to watch black people getting killed, i dont know why people dont think the same

Reply 5

View all 16 replies

SeekTV

SeekTV15 hours ago

+James Fleming of course we are, niggers are all criminals and dumb animals

Reply

anon 73

anon 731 month ago

playing cowboys and niggers is all :)

[ "none of that is racism" ]

It appears to me that someone should know what they're saying before they say it.

The following statement "we've tried to integrate " is rather pathetic to say the least because that statement implied that an effort was made to extend a hand to minorities when in fact it took a constant battle in the court rooms to force people to give African-Americans some of the same privileges and rights that they have been denied for hundreds of years. The We Tried, applies only to a minute Number of White Americans!

The question becomes where are our the Black fathers? Have you tried looking in the White jails, The White prisons most assuredly will find a number of those Black fathers with some sort of ridiculous charge in those White Prisons.

For someone to save to A Black person that you are merely perceived as living in a racist culture is someone that absolutely does not know what the heck they're talking about!

Side: Yup. it's Racist

Liberals have trained their minions well. If you don't like the outcome of an encounter involving white people, especially if you're black, it has to be racism. What else could it be?

On the purity scale, I deem this 100% grade A bull shit.

Racism claim: Denied.

Side: Nah. not racist.

Liberals can be so retarded. I hope this is just another fake story because banning this flag would make no sense.

Side: Nah. not racist.
SatintLater(283) Clarified
2 points

http://thefederalist.com/2016/08/05/feds-dont-tread-on-me-flags-may-be-racist-incur-fines/

Snopes is the first thing showing up though (I have no respect for snopes). it's not an obama thing, and no decison has been made, but I think it's real so far as a social justice push is concerned. smh.

-

I made this debate because I'm also kinda pissed they had the ability to ban the stars and bars. or really ban any symbol. Like, The swasticka isn't banned, but you'll get your teeth knocked in if you have one. so let people exercise their own judgement Sheesh government, GOD damn it get your shit together! (Done because GOD is totally offensive, even though it's probably more offensive to Christians because you're not supposed to use GOD's name in vain.) I'M RACIST EVERYONE!!!

Side: Yup. it's Racist
Cartman(18192) Disputed
2 points

The government decided that they would no longer display the confederate flag on government property. It is not illegal for a private citizen to display the confederate flag. Your anger is misplaced.

Side: Yup. it's Racist
1 point

The only thing that has happened is that the ruled the person who made the complained provided sufficient standing for their complaint to be investigated.

That's literally it.

Side: Yup. it's Racist

Guys, calm down. Literally the only thing happening is an investigation.

"In other words, a Postal Service employee (not someone in the private sector) complained of racial harassment and retaliation. One of the elements of his complaint was that a co-worker wore a cap with the Gasden flag, which he found harassing.

The Postal Service dismissed the claim without an investigation or hearing. This was appealed to the EEOC.

The EEOC ruled that it could not make a decision whether harassment occurred given the total lack of facts.

Most emphatically, the EEOC made no determination as to whether wearing the Gasden flag alone constituted harassment. The matter was sent back to the Postal Service for investigation and an hearing, to result in a final agency decision on the merits."

Based on what the EEOC has been saying, it's incredibly unlikely they will rule in favor of the one complaining.

Side: Nah. not racist.
DBCooper(2194) Disputed
1 point

The racist is the Democratic Party that you support Democrat. History has proven it. You tried a very nice spin but that just does not work anymore

Side: Yup. it's Racist
1 point

I think I'll pass on this one. The stupidity factor from AINO's (Americans in name only) isn't worth arguing with.

Side: Nah. not racist.
1 point

Democrats find everything racist. Only problem is history proves them to be racist but that is not a fact they can accept. History is a real problem for Democrats.

Side: Nah. not racist.
1 point

The origins of that Don't Tread on Me Flag have nothing to do with race. It ties back to dialogue from Ben Franklin regarding colonial treatment by the British.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadsden_flag

Although it is indeed possible for a historic symbol to be reappropriated and then associated with a terrible concept (like the Swastika on the Nazi flag) it's way way too early and too minor in comparison for the Tea Party movement to have elevated the rattlesnake flag to the status of automatically racist.

And an employee feeling threatened by the image of a rattlesnake is no more meaningful or different than if a Bostonian living in NY felt threatened by a coworker wearing a Yankees hat, or if an elderly woman felt threatened because a young man on the street was dressed for hip hop.

Side: Nah. not racist.