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11
Yes, you can No, you can only think so
Debate Score:23
Arguments:26
Total Votes:23
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 Yes, you can (9)
 
 No, you can only think so (7)

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You can know 100% confidently why we are here

If your child asked you, "Why are we here?", do you think there will ever be an answer to that question that is 100% true, or can you only tell them what your opinion is and that they have to find out on their own.

Yes, you can

Side Score: 12
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No, you can only think so

Side Score: 11
4 points

I only know why I'm here.

To sip Dom Perignon on the terrace of my modest apartment overlooking the Mediterranean just outside Nice, cote d' azure.

Popping into Monte Carlo for a coffee and watching the beautiful girls go by.

Dining in the Chantecler restaurant in the Negresco Hotel with my mistress at least twice a week after enjoying a couple of dry martini aperitifs in their oak panelled 'English Bar'.

Strolling up Nice's beautiful Promenade de Anglais on a sunny morning then shopping in the Galleries la Fayette.

Driving to one of the small relatively Muslim free medieval villages just outside Nice such as Vence or Eze which are situated on the foothills of the alpes-Maritimes for lunch and maybe join the locals for a game of boules, which they take very seriously.

Side: Yes, you can
Cocopops Clarified
2 points

An honest opinion, how refreshing.

None of this pretentious pseudo philosophizing with misquotes from Rene' Descartes ;- '' Cogito ergo sum--''I think therefore I am'' ( I think-my own appendage) rubbish.

Whatever you're own overall vision and attitude towards life is you seem to have it cracked.

Side: Yes, you can
Antrim(999) Clarified
1 point

Thanks for that.

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Side: Yes, you can
1 point

Example Argument: Yes, through faith you can fully understand why we are here and can explain that answer to someone who doesn't understand

Side: Yes, you can
NowASaint(1279) Clarified
1 point

You can only explain why we are here by knowing why we are here. If you don't know why we are here, you cannot explain why we are here.

Side: Yes, you can
1 point

The only one truth we can know for sure is "I experience therefore I am".

The meaning of life is in some way related to conscious experience, since it is the only intrinsically meaningful thing. All else that has significance/meaning draws it from a relation to conscious experience or conscious entities.

Side: Yes, you can
Imagination(25) Clarified
1 point

So in your opinion, if we were not present, the universe would be meaningless? At least from our perspective, I think that makes sense.

Side: Yes, you can
1 point

Yes, biological machines could endlessly kill each other on rotating balls of matter and none of it would have any significance without consciousness (or the potential for future consciousnesses).

Side: Yes, you can
1 point

Of course you can know why we are here, it's very simple.

Side: Yes, you can
1 point

If your child asked you, "Why are we here?", do you think there will ever be an answer to that question that is 100% true, or can you only tell them what your opinion is and that they have to find out on their own.

The way you phrased this question suggests that you are effectively clueless to the modern products of scientific inquiry as well as the methods of science and how intellectual progress is made in any area outside of Mathematics and Formal Logic.

So, you could be forthright with your child and tell them that Mommy/Daddy is not going to be able to help them navigate their way through the world and that it would be in their best interest to find other mentors who are responsible/qualified/helpful.

Side: Yes, you can
3 points

No, it's all opinion and speculation. But I would rather that come from a mutual dialogue through love and kindness than be based on the speculations of Bronze Age writers spinning the yarns to justify why their religion was better than any other religion competing at that time. To surrender all our own thought about it to adopt really old thoughts about it is silly.

Side: No, you can only think so
1 point

I would rather that come from a mutual dialogue through love and kindness

I agree. I think regardless of what you think, it's more important to not be offended of what others think (unless it involves violence), and to be able to have a rational discussion of why they think what they think and why you think what you think. We should all be able to agree on at least this much.

Side: No, you can only think so
2 points

The question doesn't make sense. There is no "why" unless you presuppose the existence of a creator. Can you answer these questions?

Why is there mountains? Why is there an Earth? Why is there sky?

Side: No, you can only think so
NowASaint(1279) Disputed
1 point

The question does make sense, it is a simple question that pretty much everybody asks and wonders about at some point in their life. I think I was around ten years old when I first seriously asked the question and tried to find the answer.

Richard Dawkins says we are here to propagate our DNA. He presupposes no creator and answers the question "why are we hear" according to his own beliefs.

Side: Yes, you can
NowASaint(1279) Clarified
1 point

There is an Earth because the particles it is made of are held together in place. There is a sky (assuming you mean that which appears blue surrounding the earth on a sunny day) because air is held on the surface of the earth by gravity and sunlight refracting in it makes it appear blue. There are mountains because the lands crushed together causing some of the land to rise and become mountains while other parts fell beneath the mountains and melted in the inner heat of the earth.

The answer to "why are we here" cannot be answered with any assurance outside of God creating us for His own pleasure.

Side: Yes, you can
2 points

I know why we're all here - our parents had sex. I don't see there as being a big 'why', but in the context of the debate, a how. I believe (not know) that life is simply a likely thing, given enough possibilities. That's rather where current science is,on the subject.

Side: No, you can only think so
1 point

Example Argument: No, we do not know enough about our world to know 100% without a doubt why we are here. No matter what you believe, there will always be a chance that you are wrong.

Side: No, you can only think so
NowASaint(1279) Clarified
1 point

If you believe the truth, you cannot be wrong. We are here because God created us for His own pleasure. I know this to be absolutely 100% true without a doubt. I know many others who know. In the general population, people really do not want to know; they prefer to believe they cannot know. If you believe you cannot know why we are here, you feel excused to be exonerated in death.

Side: Yes, you can
JOMIRO(29) Disputed
1 point

How ridiculous. We are here because we are, and there is no other reason. God my arse.

Side: Yes, you can
1 point

There's not a lot we can know 100% confidently, if there is anything we can know 100% confidently. I don't have the knowledge to justify the statement in question and I doubt anyone else does, so my answer is no we can't know. Unless you want to say something like "to pass on our genes" which technically is true, but I know that's not what you meant. What you said in your example answer sufficed.

If anybody answers 'yes' they must provide an 100% perfect case.

Side: No, you can only think so
Imagination(25) Clarified
1 point

I think the point is that there is no answer that is so correct that there is no probability of anything else being correct. Like saying 1 + 1 = 2, that statement has no probability to it, it's just 100% true, but as soon as things get remotely complicated, like answering why we are here, you must answer things in terms of probability

Side: Yes, you can
xMathFanx(673) Disputed
1 point

I think the point is that there is no answer that is so correct that there is no probability of anything else being correct. Like saying 1 + 1 = 2, that statement has no probability to it, it's just 100% true, but as soon as things get remotely complicated, like answering why we are here, you must answer things in terms of probability

Mathematical proofs are internal to the system and not dependent on the external world. You do not have to have the same level of precision (in fact is impossible--to our current understanding) in order to intelligently answer your child's relatively simple (ill-phrased) question.

Side: Yes, you can
1 point

We are here because God created us for His own pleasure.

It's not complicated at all.

Side: No, you can only think so