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hmmmm welp
Debate Score:83
Arguments:74
Total Votes:92
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You can't get a gun until 21 but you can use machine guns in war at 18

hmmmm

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5 points

In terms of immediate policy proposal/revisions--I would argue owning a firearm should require the completion of a program on par with typical Certificate or Associate degree programs found at Community College--in fact, the program could be offered at Community Colleges for a minimal fee. This is to help ensure the quality of citizen who owns & operates a firearm to be at a higher base standard, or else the 'right' will not be extended to those who fail to pass the program.

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3 points

Hey, let's raise the age of war to 21 then. We'll save millions of lives. Done. Nice catch, thanks.

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You can't get a gun until 21 but you can use machine guns in war at 18

In my state, you can get a rifle at age 18 while 21 is the age for handguns.

Now, more to your point, I find that Adults will define the term 'adult' and 'kid' arbitrarily at varying ages as it fits their particular needs--which leads to all kinds of contradictions & inconsistencies.

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I have been looking for the perfect machine gun. Can you direct me to the best manufacturer of that weapon ?

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Bc you can’t just go up and shoot a school in the military. The weapons u use are kept watch over. And so are you wen ur using it.

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You can make a gun in 20 minutes. The anti gun fanatics are spewing unhelpful nonsense. You can create a bump stock with basic household objects. It is pointless.

The real problem is teaching kids values and defending the schools.

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xMathFanx(1755) Clarified
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@bronto

The anti gun fanatics are spewing unhelpful nonsense

Also, there fundamentally is not much difference between an AR-15 and handguns--as they are both semi-automatic. The term "assault rifle" or "military-style weapon" is a misnomer based on a lack of understanding. If AR-15's have to be banned because they are perceived to be to dangerous, then, logically, all semi-automatic weapons including handguns would have to be banned--so let 'us' (as a culture) be honest about the conversation that is happening

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Nomoturtle(708) Disputed
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If 'you' (anyone) can make a gun in 20 minutes, then it can be assumed that everyone has access to firearms at all times. Why then, do we see drastically fewer gun deaths in countries with heavy firearm restrictions and low/negligible firearm ownership?

I can only assume your point is bs, either no, the average joe can not make a firearm as quickly or easily as you say, or the firearm they create is poor in its ability to kill such that it's a redundant option, or whatever method you refer to is unknown to everyone else.

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Rusticus(1608) Disputed
1 point

Your Lord and Savior Donald Trump is about to grab your toys.

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1 point

@American_Boy - You're exactly right, 18 year olds use assault weapons IN BATTLE. The premise of this debate is silly.

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outlaw60(14819) Disputed
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Come Dummy i want you Progressives to show me just one law that will keep a gun out of the hands of a criminal ! State the law for us all ! Surely you can do that one simple task !

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Context is totally different and justifies the different treatment. A machine gun used in war is intended to be used to kill as much of your opposition as possible. The age requirement is meant to correlate to a certain level of responsibility. In domestic situations you ideally neither intend nor act in the interest of killing someone. Kids/teens are more likely to be impulsive and may kill others under certain intensified motives which adults may not. If they have a handgun instead of a machine gun then presumably in the worst case scenario they will be less capable of killing many people, resulting in fewer deaths overall. In war however this is a main objective, where the responsibility of the person wielding the machine gun is irrelevant beyond the point that they're fulfilling their objective.

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The battle field is a different environment from the dosmestic or normal human habitat. Battle field is like a jungle of pride(on strength and survival), full of mindless creatures the machines speaks their minds; the weapon is the method of settlement, it requires no agreement tables rather the opposite as a disagreement space. The machine thinks and speaks their minds and hearts for them. No pity or thinking twice. Age doesnt matter. Rebels even use people less than 18yrs. So it's justified in war. Everyone who heads(mind programmed) there is fully aware it's a field death and choas so it's justified. Guess you heard about the amount of American soldiers that commit suicide on yearly basis.

But our normal homes isn!t the same.

And i wonder why we bring killing machines home. In your own home you protect yourself from an enemy like Messi protecting a ball from Iniesta in the same team? Even if so i thought there is a unit for protection in our domestic environment called the police.

Hey America is now Jamaica.

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