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Opinions are meaningless Carrot Juice
Debate Score:21
Arguments:18
Total Votes:28
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Your opinions are meaningless

Facts and speculation are all you need, opinions are just an excuse for stupid people to say their stupidity is acceptable because it's just their "personal opinion" but 99% of the time your "personal opinions" are not yours to begin with, but just a heap of manure that you are parroting like a biological android of robotic  regurgitation. The whole concept of "opinion" encourages you to be unnecessarily stupid and have less appreciation for facts and open speculation because it encourages you to pick and choose what you believe based on personal whims rather than logic and evidence. When a stupid person prefers one food over another, they might say "This is better than that in my opinion" but is that really better than this or is that just what your taste buds are telling you? Since it is inherently subjective then why must you say "this is better than that" or "that is better than this" ? instead of making it a "personal opinion" would it not be more logical to acknowledge the reality that this is not better than that but that this is objectively creating a more pleasurable response than that because of the objective neurological wiring of my objectively existing taste buds? Therefor it is a scientific fact that this objectively tastes better to me subjectively, but neither objectively tastes better because it's inherently subjective so what's the point of treating it as an opinion? There is no personal truth or opinion necessary because when you think about it there is a reality of the situation as I have just demonstrated, and truth can't  be "personal" in the first place because it either is or it isn't, and even though that's just one example the same logic can be applied to many others, so why hold beliefs and opinions when you can rely on facts and speculation and just admit when something is subjective and recognize the objective properties of the mechanisms which make that subjective experience exist instead of clinging to it as an opinion?

Opinions are meaningless

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Carrot Juice

Side Score: 15

Says the nincompoop who thinks Karl Marx was a terrorist!

Side: Opinions are meaningless
Eloy(195) Clarified
1 point

That is only your opinion, Nomenclature. If you get my meaning.

Side: Opinions are meaningless
FactMachine(430) Disputed
1 point

Karl Marx thought a violent revolution is an inevitable part of the transition to communism, I never said he was a terrorist per se. And I never said I disagree with every single thing he ever said.

Side: Carrot Juice
Dermot(5156) Disputed
1 point

So advocating assassination and bloodshed is not deemed terrorism ..... interesting 🤔

Marx again in his own words when asked about violence and socialism ........

Journalist asked .....

“Well, then, to carry out the principles of socialism do its believers advocate assassination and bloodshed?”

Marx replied .....

“No great movement,” Karl answered, “has ever been inaugurated Without Bloodshed.

“The independence of America was won by bloodshed, Napoleon captured France through a bloody process, and he was overthrown by the same means. Italy, England, Germany, and every other country gives proof of this, and as for assassination,” he went on to say, “it is not a new thing, I need scarcely say. Orsini tried to kill Napoleon; kings have killed more than anybody else; the Jesuits have killed; the Puritans killed at the time of Cromwell. These deeds were all done or attempted before socialism was born. Every attempt, however, now made upon a royal or state individual is attributed to socialism. The socialists would regret very much the death of the German Emperor at the present time. He is very useful where he is; and Bismarck has done more for the cause than any other statesman, by driving things to extremes.”

Side: Carrot Juice
0 points

Opinions are meaningless.

It is my opinion that God, The Supreme and Ultimate Reality, is what truly has meaning. I believe that my opinion on the matter does not have any bearing on the self evidence of this claim. I believe that if there were to be any meaning at all, God would clearly be The One who Is Meaningful.

What I'm really trying to say is that...

God is what I'm attempting to convey by language

God is The One who created all things through The Word. God spoke it all into existence.

There can be none more meaningful than God!

What matters is the truth, and you gotta be a sleuth fighting nail and tooth with a mind so obtuse.

And I believe it stands to reason that my opinion doesn't add or subtract from the validity of The God Eternal.

Side: Opinions are meaningless
FactMachine(430) Disputed
1 point

Opinions are meaningless.

It is a fact that The Supreme and Ultimate Reality is beyond your comprehension and at the end of the day you don't really know if God exists or what the ultimate nature of reality is. Nothing truly has meaning except in the sense of having meaning to a group or individual, so just like with the whole "does human life have inherent value" debate, nothing can actually have meaning as an inherent property, it can only be perceived as having meaning. I believe that your opinion on the matter does not have any bearing on the self evidence of this claim. I believe that using the word belief and opinion over and over is a sign that you have no idea what you're talking about.

What I'm really trying to say is that...

Objective truth is what I'm attempting to convey by language

You don't know objectively who or what created all things.

There can be no interpretation of reality more meaningless than "God popped out of nothing and spoke the universe into existence"

What matters is the truth, that's why I need proof, till' then I'm aloof because you're just a goof.

And I believe it stands to reason that beliefs and opinions have nothing to do with reason.

Side: Carrot Juice
TzarPepe(797) Disputed
1 point

God is a certainty. Is God beyond my comprehension? Certainly, God is beyond anyone's comprehension. The only thing that shows is that God is greater than any conception we have of God. That is the nature of The Supreme and Ultimate Reality.

So if you were to take meaning as being contingent on perception, I would argue that not only is the concept of keeping it real cross cultural and independently verified everywhere as the best policy, but it goes to show...

The Holy God is the source of all meaning. To say there is no ultimate reality is meaningless. There is only One God, and that God is The Supreme and Ultimate Reality.

If there is anything that has meaning at all, it would be that. If that doesn't have meaning, what can? My words, they will be blown away, but what it is I am intending to convey with my words is Eternal. You may or may not claim to reject the meaning of my words, but in your heart, do you reject The Supreme and Ultimate Reality? Surely to do so is foolish. Is there really another option? Masochism?

Your opinion on the matter has no impact on what The Supreme and Ultimate Reality is. My opinion has no impact on what The Supreme and Ultimate Reality is. Can't get any more existent and actual than that.

Side: Opinions are meaningless
2 points

It is a lot sweeter than I expected, otherwise it tastes exactly like what I'd imagine carrots in juice form to taste like. It is really uncanny how much it tastes like carrot, but at the same time it makes perfect sense.

The nutrition facts label says it has a lot of vitamins. If you don't have teeth, it seems to me like drinking them might be a good way to consume carrots.

Side: Carrot Juice
2 points

Opinion is based on sentiment rather than shared reality.

Opinion is often relegated to the rank of false knowledge. But, it seems that opinion is actually not the opposite of knowledge, but its preamble. Before you know that fire burns, do you not feel its danger? You can see it is orange and feel the heat but you will only only know if you touch it.

You don't know fire burns. Ignorance

You believe fire burns. Opinion

You know fire burns. Knowledge

The utility of opinion varies but in the case of fire opinion could lead one to touch fire with caution.

In relations to food (I did choose to defend carrot juice), if most people in your restaurant believe your food tastes like horse crap, their opinion has meaning and importance because your job is to please most taste buds.

Side: Carrot Juice
1 point

You're just another puppet avatar used in the smear and ban approach favored by a poor debater. Your opinion of our opinion always matters less than anything real we have to say.

Side: Carrot Juice
FactMachine(430) Disputed
1 point

I only smear and ban people precisely because they have nothing real to say.

Side: Opinions are meaningless
1 point

It's a very sweet juice, and I feel as though it should get more credit. It may not be as good as apple juice, but it's Pretty good.

Side: Carrot Juice
0 points

Memes..........................just...................memes

Side: Carrot Juice

Fact machine leave the site. You're very presence here makes me feel dumber. Opinions are good on many levels. Such as 1 man asking another what is your opinion on me blowing this building up with millions of people in it? Well I think you are going to be in very big trouble and I think you should not do it. Law enforcement uses opinions everyday to talk people out of doing things they will regret. Interrogators use opinions everyday to get information out of people.

You say opinions or meaningless so you must not argue with what I said. Because in you're very words, your opinion about what I say would be meaningless. You are the issue you are just like the media 1 sided.

Side: Carrot Juice

Factmachine I see you are banning my buddies here. My opinion of you is very distasteful. And you can not ban me nor can you argue with me, because on what you're words say you're opinion on banning me or arguing with me is meaningless.

Side: Carrot Juice
0 points

I see your title is an opinion. Also, isn't speculation just a fancy word for opinion?

Side: Carrot Juice