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 an atheist holiday ... how will you celebrate ? (22)

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an atheist holiday ... how will you celebrate ?

ATHEIST FOOL'S DAY .. is just around the corner .. how will you celebrate ?

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By remembering all the struggles that atheist had to go through.

In reality we would be happy to have a day off.

dadman(1703) Clarified
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yes indeed .... (atheistic based) communism's tragic legacy has oppressed millions

http://victimsofcommunism.org/quiz/?utmsource=sfktwads&utm;medium=referral&utm;campaign=sfkquiz_ads

... we should all get a day off from atheism

LadyLinkstar(415) Clarified
4 points

I have a shitty link too !

Supporting Evidence: one (www.bibliotecapleyades.net)
AlofRI(3294) Clarified
1 point

Few Atheists would argue with that. That does not mean Atheists are evil Some of them are, just like some Muslims, some Christians, some Jews. Just because someone evil wants communism it doesn't mean that all Atheists are with him/her, or even hate them any less than any Christian. I am an Atheist, and I hate communism. I don't hate Christians, even. That is unless they continuously blame the troubles of the world on Atheism. I don't "hate" you but, I could see myself unplugging your life support system to charge my cell phone .... :<)

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How will I celebrate? I won't. I only celebrate the real fake holidays like Christmas and Easter.

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If you mean Pagan holiday they are pretty much on the same day as all the Christian holidays. Funny how that happened isnt it.

2 points

By sinning as much as I can and then coming here and mocking some Christians. Do a few anti-religion posts. And also working on my dissertation that totally proves we are products of evolution. Whenever I am immersed in science and wisdom it is a by proxy refutation and dismissal of religion. Which is nothing but ignorant superstitions.

dadman(1703) Clarified
1 point

really ? .... this should help you .. Darwins Doubt - Dr Stephen Meyer http://www.darwinsdoubt.com/

Cartman(18192) Disputed
2 points

You know what is hilarious about that book? The entire premise of the book relies on the idea of a time period that can't possibly exist according to the Bible. It casts doubt on evolution (sort of), but definitely discredits the story in the Bible.

SlapShot(2608) Disputed
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And this proves to me that you probably know very little about evolution, and I doubt you even read the book.

If you had you would know it cast no aspersions on our modern day understanding of evolution. Or the mountains of evidence we have accumulated for it. We have far more proof than Darwin had. Including transitional fossils and DNA.

Evolution has never been seriously challenged by any opposing science. Only by religoiouis zealots who are hereby in scientific education in biology and anthropology.

Evolution has passed every test and challenge ever thrown at it, and with flying colors.

Ninety-five percent of all professional scientists believe in evolution.

I have debunked every challenge to it on this site. Including that of irreducible complexity.

Lastly...sure, Darwin had his doubts. But this in no way discredits evolution. He was simply one of the science's founders. If he were around today and privvy to all the proof we have he would have NO doubts.

Copernicus had doubts too. Does this mean that the fact the earth orbits the sun is any less valid?

No.

Doubt is part of the scientific process. Doubt, testing, experimenting, observation, and then cautious conclusion. All subject to further tests. This is now we roll.

You guys on the other hand have nothing to back your fairy tale claims except for your Bible. A book of Hebrew mythology. I have challenged you guys many times here. And have never been offered a reasonable shred of proof. Like in my last thread debunking prayer. Not one believer camse forward to challenge me.

Why?

Because you know you have nothing, except the groundless beliefs....delusions....in your heads.

Jace(5222) Disputed
1 point

Your atheist holiday seems unduly focused on theists. IMO. You do you though.

dadman(1703) Clarified
1 point

well You do you though too :) ...................................................

1 point

Slapshot;

Great minds think alike. :<) Thomas Jefferson agreed with you when he said: "We discover, in the gospels. a groundwork of vulgar ignorance, of things impossible, of superstition. fanaticism and fabrication."

He was a realist, not a fundamentalist. I have little doubt that , today, with todays scientific knowledge, he would still maybe believe in a "natural god", certainly NOT the Christian (or Muslim) one.

(I wish create debate would find some way to place these responses somewhere near where they were intended!)

2 points

Every kind of holiday, religious or otherwise, only holds value if they bring people together to appreciate life. There are already popular holidays not related to religion - Thanksgiving, Cinco de Mayo, April Fools, Independence Day... Likewise there are religious themed holidays which remain popular but not really for the religious reasons originally intended (Christmas, Easter). And there are religious holidays the majority of even the religious people don't bother with (Purim, various days of various saints).

You celebrate what you choose to celebrate, and the rest of us will celebrate what we choose to celebrate. If either side isn't happy then that falls on the side which made the choices that don't make it happy. And if either side tries to eliminate or ban the other side's choices then shame on that side for missing the whole point of having holidays - for people to get together and appreciate life.

dadman(1703) Clarified
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There are already popular holidays not related to religion - Thanksgiving ......... um,

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George Washington's 1789 Thanksgiving Proclamation

WHEREAS it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favour; and Whereas both Houses of Congress have, by their joint committee, requested me "to recommend to the people of the United States a DAY OF PUBLIC THANSGIVING and PRAYER, to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many and signal favors of Almighty God, especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness:"

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.................... sounds to me God is to be recognized here

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"for people to get together and appreciate life" ..... Indeed I agree

Grenache(6053) Clarified
2 points

OK then, I'll give you Thanksgiving. It's still true regardless that we celebrate some things that aren't religious.

AlofRI(3294) Disputed
1 point

JEEZ! I always thought the first Thanksgiving was celebrated by white settlers and Indians LONG before Washington was President. Many of those "settlers" were there because they had fled the religious persecution of Europe, and I'm sure the Houses of Congress had little to do with it.

1 point

First, that is a traditional header for the time.

Second, Washington did not start Thanksgiving.

Third, a religious prayer on a holiday does not make the holiday itself religious in nature.

2 points

Fun Fact: In 2018 Easter will happen on April 1st.

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Oh Oh I Know I Know .... I'm headed for a big upcoming concert .. one of my favorite bands in town .... when it's over I'm going to get up on the stage and thank the guitars / amplifiers and drums for making such great sound ..... ha ha ha .. aw ya killn me :) happy atheist fool's day in advance ......

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"absence of evidence" (lol) is not evidence of there being no evidence < get a clue atheists

Cartman(18192) Disputed
3 points

13 is my favorite. You believe in Christianity, which doesn't have a single original holiday, but Atheism is borrowing from other beliefs. Ok pal.

Cartman(18192) Disputed
1 point

Why is the absence of evidence good enough to be considered evidence that what there is no evidence for existing?

SlapShot(2608) Disputed
1 point

The gaping problem with that lame analogy is that when we see a band perform we have vast and irrefutable evidence for the existence of the artists, and how the equipment works and how sound is propagated.

All thanks to science, BTW.

Whereas you zealots offer zero proof or even evidence for your fairy tales. Your imaginary friends.

Sad indeed.

What are you guys so scared of? That you find it necessary to invent these gods? Can you not accept life on its own terms?

Can you not put away childish things?

This too, I find sad.

Eating dinner with my family. Then heading home to 420 blaze and praise it

1 point

Then you would be a Rastafarian, not an atheist... LOL!

I will sin, of course. ;-)

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Just like the 4th of July, Presidents Day, New Years Eve, etc. (Or opening day for fishing.)

1 point

By blowing up something and see if I can ceeate a world from it