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The existence of the earth is not even evidence of God let alone proof.
Saying that it is is like saying that Fairy rings are proof of the existence of Fairys, which it obviously is not.
The fact of evolution does not explain anything about non-biological systems, it is a biological fact that all life evolved from humble beginnings, it shows the lack of knowledge on the subject of Natural Selection that someone would use it as an example to explain abiotic systems, and cosmological theory.
The speaker in the video compares mans technological achievements to the biological workings of the Human body as if they were some form of perfection to be admired. if the Human eye (the evolution of which is well documented) is so perfect then why is an owls eye better? It shows the deluded mind when a man compares mans achievements to biological ones as evidence of the existence of a creator.
The truth is the more science answers questions the further back the religious push the involvement of God, there is no proof of God and I doubt there ever will be.
My favorite one is we can not deny that we exist, well if this is not pointing out the obvious I don't know what is.
He then proceeds to explain that if we are existing and sustaining ourselves on a host of environmental phenomena that we are not the authors of then surely some higher power is
This is always going to be the position of the the Theist, to explain something then leads to another fall back position that is then as I said above the point of involvement of God.
God created, legislation, morality and the systems in which to live
Where is the proof of this, there is evidence that morality evolved from mutual altruism which would explain legislation. As for as for the systems in which we live, they are explained in detail in a great many books and studies, pick one and google it.
After this this already ridiculous rant falls into Islamic Babble, it does not prove anything it is the same old questions of morality in your children and Blah, Blah, Blah.
What did interest me was his explanation of Islam stating that submission is freedom and that Islam is a system of integration and social balance. Social balance? Integration? tell that to the Burka wearing women in the sweltering heat, or the Homosexuals in Islamic countries that by fear of death have to stay in the closet. Why are Muslim women only allowed to marry Muslim men? Why is there no freedom of speech?
Tell me, What is the penalty for apostasy?
There was too much wrong with that video to account for them all here.
1.if existance of earth is not evidence of GOD'S existance then the finger prints detectives find to proof a certain person is murderer is not evidence. i.e. something cannot come from nothing. if so you make something out of nothing and then i'll believe in atheism or free those prisoners who've been jailed just because pos found a finger print.
2. now you're smart enough to know he's comparring technological achievement and human biological parts as an anological evidence of GOD. Not to denote a human's perfection.physics of human to us muslims are same as animals that camprises of blood, bone, and meat but the big difference between us humans and animals is our mind that makes us so superior then anything in the scientifically known universe. also birds can fly we can't some animals are stronger then us some walk on the walls, but their mind is inferior then us otherwise the animals would put us in zoos.
3. actually the more scientists answer questions the more baffled, mystified the scientific community are find out how many species exist on earth scientifically we know 2 million all estimated to be about 10 million species. guess what they couldn't even give names to all the 2 mllion species but only 1.4 million. are you expecting them (scientistis) to find out the Originator of everthing within earth the universe and everything beyond it.
4.morality did not and does not just evolve to be. a government a system has to make it happen somebody has to write down. the difference between islamic and other system which are man made is the islamic jurisprudence has been brought by GOD create a social balance for those who adhere to it but the man made laws are almost all and always created to serve the interest of those who are considered superior human's.
5. Other then the foregoing your problem is believing that Quran is a book that is from GOD put it to the test. The Quran is unlike the book or books of christianity called the bible which chases the scientists because they know it will fail. But Quran passed every kind of test internal, external consistency, astronomical, ambreological, geological evidence that quran is from GOD have been established
6. But the bible is simple to disprove. one question to ask christians to disprove the bible is how many blind man did jesus cure when he was in jericho
Matthew 20:30 Two blind men. Luke 18:35-38 Only one blind man
how can it come from god if two people proclaiming to be inspired by god speaking of the same story but contradicting each other.
if i was a christian i would just convert to Islam because the bible is oblvious is not from god.
now it will take a good professional liar to show that quran has a contradiction within it and it will not be easy two to three pages just to explain something into a contradiction.
If there is too much wrong with the video to account all here there is also too much wrong with Atheism and every religion besides Islam to account all here.
THE QURAN IS THE WORLDS SOLUTION NOT MAN MADE LAWS.
as long as you continue to mock religion like that
jerry springer, maury show, and other shows that expose how discussting the western are shall continue to flourish
sons will have sex with their own mothers and fathers will have sex with own doughters. and thereafter cwmdulais will not be ashamed to go to jerry springer and admit he had sex with his own sister as he is not ashamed to mock GOD.
aveskde's sister or mother will be on the maury show against 5 to 11 men who slept with her trying to prove one of them is the father of aveskde or another baby.
as a nation of atheism you are facing a predicamental crisis. 90 percents of children are bastards.
woman are called whores not me who does that it's you cw calls aves sister a whore and vice versa each one is uncouncious his own mother and sister is a common whore.
in proving the claim hereinbefore the evidential exhibit is your own self
I will guarantee you that both of you are bastards who had been born out of wed-lack and if any of you had sons same thing the sons you've had are bastards too.
in order that you may extricate yourself from those kinds of entrapments try to listen to us when we propose the quran for you after all this will be your only prescription to cure these countless amounts of disgracefull deseases
you're faced with stop being like an animal as the quran states
2:170
When the atheists are advised to: "Follow what Allah hath revealed:" They say: "no! we shall follow the ways of our fathers." What! even though their fathers Were void of wisdom or intelligence and had no guidance?
2:171 The parable of those who reject faith is like cattle which, call out to them as one may, hear nothing but a shout and a cry since they are unable to understand
Deaf, dumb, blind, therefore they have no sense, wisdom, or understanding.
stop activating your deafness, dubness, and blindness, is the implication hereinbefore.
Why are you watching these shows Abubakar this is not very Islamic of you, shame on you. How as a Muslim man can you think such horrible sexual things, again shame shame shame.
This is just personal slander, I thought you could at least stay away from that Allah will not be pleased.
I don't not any longer at least and no GOD wasn't pleased when i fall for your ways of life
for 13 years I was under illusion thinking the western way of life was the best way of life but I was wrong It was actually the most foolish, discusting way to live and waste your life.
the tv is mind controlling device that thinks for you it chooses what is good and bad for you when the truth vice versa. IT TELLS you good is bad and bad is good but you beleve it.
but you will fight to protect it even though it is wasting you.
do you know why because you are not ready to be unplugged.
watch this cool 2 minutes video it will explain who you are.
as long as you continue to insult and use a flawed book to try and prove these points, no one will really take you seriously,
"90 percents of children are bastards."
source? i cant take you seriously if you continue to scream and scream yet not stop to prove it.
"wed-lack" wed-lock?
"I will guarantee you that both of you are bastards" pics or it didnt happen.
"cure these countless amounts of disgracefull deseases" that you still have no proof of.
"Follow what Allah hath revealed:" They say: "no! we shall follow the ways of our fathers." What! even though their fathers Were void of wisdom or intelligence and had no guidance?"
and your fathers had anymore? you have no proof, no evidence, why should i take your word, and dont pull out your quotes, its making you look like a right fool.
"2:171 The parable of those who reject faith is like cattle which, call out to them as one may, hear nothing but a shout and a cry since they are unable to understand
Deaf, dumb, blind, therefore they have no sense, wisdom, or understanding.
stop activating your deafness, dubness, and blindness, is the implication hereinbefore."
even thouhg we respond to your questions and ask new ones, you provide little evedince except quotes that are from the thing your defending. you folllow your religeon without question or though, i have made multiple conversions over my life
did i ever specifically say "i hate Islam" i don't think i did, and i apologies if i have, i don't hate people because of their religion, and i try not to hate people at all. but this is a debate site which is why I'm debating.
i have tried multiple times to connect with god, and i thought i had with multiple religions, until something proved that it was a lie. he found a belief he can follow, good for him, but why should i ? Ive never felt any real divine intervention, and until i do, or something comes up that has enough to sway my belief to follow a particular god(s), i shall continue being a atheist.
1.if existance of earth is not evidence of GOD'S existance then the finger prints detectives find to proof a certain person is murderer is not evidence.
This is not even a point let alone an equation, a finger print can be connected to a physical source therefore it can be inferred that whatever made the print was there. Unless there is proof that God leaves behind Earths where he has been then this argument doesn't work.
actually the more scientists answer questions the more baffled, mystified the scientific community are
They are mystified about the volumes of new information that they get when they find out something new, in time a lot can be explained, some can not and this provides the fun in science.
find out how many species exist on earth scientifically we know 2 million all estimated to be about 10 million species. guess what they couldn't even give names to all the 2 mllion species but only 1.4 million. are you expecting them (scientistis) to find out the Originator of everthing within earth the universe and everything beyond it.
What has this got to do with anything? Firstly Zoology and Cosmology are two completely different spheres of knowledge. There are people who's lives are dedicated to naming different species if they haven't found and classed all of them this suddenly makes them unqualified to do what? talk about the cosmos, is this your point?
.morality did not and does not just evolve to be.
If you are willing to make this statement please provide a link or something that provides evidence to back it up, and no a Muslim preacher saying so does not count. Here is one I use it is pretty simple to understand.
a government a system has to make it happen somebody has to write down.
This is a fallacy, are you telling me that morality didn't exist until after the invention of writing?
the difference between Islamic and other system which are man made is the islamic jurisprudence has been brought by GOD
The Quran and the Bible are nearly the same book, both work off the same moral code as the Jews, as laid down in the old testament, each side has its own caveats and rules too add.
GOD create a social balance for those who adhere to it but the man made laws are almost all and always created to serve the interest of those who are considered superior human's.
Tell that to the Women and the Homosexuals and those that wish to leave Islam.
6. But the bible is simple to disprove. one question to ask christians to disprove the bible is how many blind man did jesus cure when he was in jericho
The Bible has many inconsistencies, I don't see its bearing on the argument though, I mean Muslims are just Jews with slightly different Ideas and Mohamed as a messenger. If the bible has inconsistencies and the Quran does not, that still only proves that your crowd spent time editing the book and haven't had as many versions printed.
In all seriousness I couldn't give a shit about either the Quran or the Bible I don't see why they are being brought up now at all.
If there is too much wrong with the video to account all here there is also too much wrong with Atheism and every religion besides Islam to account all here.
I was simply arguing the points that were connected with the debate topic which was "atheists here is a logical proof of GOD" There was no logical proof of God in it, what there was, was a man talking nonsense about things he was not qualified to talk about, after the points about proof of God I stopped arguing.
1.If finger print can be connected to physical Design and something meaning physical thing can be connected to have originated from somthing else. something called world's planets, nabulas, galaxies cannot all come from nothing and establish something for the human's benefits.
2. another word for mystified is confusion if scientists are just confused about the volumes of information they find. how do you conclude there is no GOD. Obviously they haven't even finished investigating nonetheless you prejudicing there is no god there cannot be a god without evidence. your only evidence are scientists who are in confusion as you admitted.
3. if mystification is providing the fun for the scientists. then trust me it won't be so fun when you will burn in (something you don't recognize) called the hell fire
4. zoology and cosmology. how can cosmologist know the secrets of life and the sectrets of everything beyond without knowing the micros. you mean don't need to know the alphabets to be able to read see that don't make sense to me.
5. Morality., integrity, generosity, honor – these are concepts our society esteems, rewards, and expects.
the link you have provided it seems they are speaking out of gesture if a link will prove anything
and by the way to legislate something doesn't neccerarily denote to write it down.
6.ISLAM, Judaism, and christians have a common source is what I agree but I know that Islam is the most advanced religion among the three and then any other religion on earth. Islam has stood scientific, logical, phylosical, tests the others didn't. we don't just claim things without proofs.
7. who wishes to leave Islam? don't let CNN & FOX & ABC feed you with fiction. other wise show me the proof.
average of 20k within the united states of america converting to islam per year and 80% are woman. attached a videos below.
8.did you say we spend time editing the Quran. well on that i will have to respond that your mind has loads and loads of Fallacies. investigate before just Judging something. coz the fact is Quran is the only book intact meaning never changed, edited, deleted, or added for 1400 years or since it came. one version of quran exists that is it.
9. finally how do you know the man in the video is speaking of something he's not qualified to speak about what you know about he's credentials and how did you know it. think B4 U SPEAK.
he is a former christians who went through six denominations of christianity and he's backround is socialigist. that's just a bit of it.
Why is it that if you cant explain something then it must have been God, time and time again knowledge beats myth, the cosmos is absolutely huge it is without proper definition, this has to be God because it cant be explained yet, right?
What would you do if presented with irrefutable proof of the non existence of God. I can tell you, you would just deny it because that is the way of the staunch theist, where as tomorrow I was presented with irrefutable proof of the existence of God I would believe.
A finger print comes from a known source, the Earth does not. This does not mean that you can just make up an explanation.
Point 2)
If you find something you don't understand do you A, try to find the answer or B, do you make up an explanation for it. What Scientists do is A what the religious do is B. If scientists are mystified about something does not mean that it will forever be that way everyday there is new things being discovered and these things require explanation it is an on going process it will never end knowledge is built on knowledge that is how people progress.
Point 3)
So if a scientist finds science and the pursuit of knowledge and truth fun he will burn in hell, might I say that this is the most stupid thing you have said in this whole debate.
Point 4)
This is just babble, there is a base knowledge of general science that most scientists must know, each individual splits off in to their respective disciplines and this is where they obtain their specific knowledge, without the base there would be no foundation.
Point 5)
Morality., integrity, generosity, honor – these are concepts our society esteems, rewards, and expects. And what is your point.
Your link had nothing about the origins of morality.
and by the way to legislate something doesn't neccerarily denote to write it down.
Now you are arguing against your own point.
Point 6)
You Know Islam is the most advanced, I am sure that a Christian or Jew would have something to say about that.
How exactly has Islam stood scientific tests, they don't believe evolution happened, they believe that humans are less then ten thousand years old.
we don't just claim things without proofs.
Yes you do. Such as the topic of this debate.
Point7)
So no one wants to leave Islam, is that so? I believe this to be bullkaka, Muslims would be afraid to tell people they were leaving Islam.
Why are you talking about ABC, FOX and CNN?
http://www.apostatesofislam.com/ this is a link directly to your question if you are going to provide a link in future could you make it about the topic, I don't wish to wade through Islamic trash to get to information which wasn't there.
Point 8)
How do you know the Quran is unedited, is it because someone told you? or it is written in the Quran?
Point 9)
One simple thing here, he is stating that natural selection cant explain the existence of the Earth. Natural selection is a biological fact it is nothing to do with explaining the existence of the planet. This man then exclaims that if man didn't create something, then God did. This is a non-answer without proof of Gods existence, God can not be the definitive answer
This same man claims that Americans created Aids and inoculated millions of Africans with it. He also claims that Osama Bin Laden doesn't exist, plus and this is the cherry on top he is under investigation for massive fraud. So I would say you should research your sources before committing to them
1. no our evidence of GOD is actually not the short comings of the scientists. if something is absolutely big that it doesn't have a proper definition then it is the proof that you atheists are following something uncertain as a way of life, your whole hearts, minds, and attention are at that thing called scienfic investigation which has not concluded the life within or beyond it is still investigating it is in doubt thus how can atheists determine theres absolutely no god.
atheists depend on science how can atheist prove to me GOD does not exist when science has not fully investigated or explored everything and determined what the secret of life is. if they (scientists) have we would't have to die would we?
finger print comes from a known source the earth does not... really is that logic the earth comes from nothingness. nothingness you mean it then you must be the first atheist to believe in miracles, or phenomeno, or something unexplained and unexplanable.
so if you find a watch, or material thing somewhere you'll simply believe nobody left it there.
2.we the muslims do not qualify for A. because our religion never changes it is written (reavealed) once 1400 years ago and it is unlawful to change anything within our religion.
as of the B. muslims don't reject scientific investigation of everything unlike christians.
in a book revealed 1400 yrs ago how can it have scientific facts of the 21st century without GOD being the source of revelation.
we don't make explanation of anything but you are assuming quran is not a a word of god when you haven't even read it. video below attached of science and quran
3.I'm not saying he'll burn in hell because he's pursuing knowledge. pursuit of knowledge and science is fully and strongly encouraged in islam, on the other hand he'll burn in hell because he failed to recognize and thank the owner of himself, the owner of the earth, the owner of everything within our existance and beyond within.
I already told you you don't recognize the hell fire therefore it shouldn't sound so stupid to you I already warned you.
5. Morality can never come from a natural mind or atheists because all mind from itself produces is gready, corruption like woman walking naked dancing naked the exploitation of woman as a result the woman get a name whore. that what every body calls a woman here in america may be you don't know.
atheism is not honor because death is not honor atheism to believe once death occurs that is the end of the human what kind of destination is that?
genourosity you can't be genorous without religion greadiness of more and more is all atheism produces.
humility no way an atheist is humble and nobody without a religion can be humble in recognizing others ranks levels. atheism is only arrogance nothing else especially once someone trys to proof god or relgion to them. atheists shut their ears, eyes, and mind. looking at atheists and godless people today determines and exhibits that morality integrity, generosity, honor cannot have come nothing else but GOD through revelation.
6.jews and christians can't stand us and the tests we'll put them through. do you want to defend them.
evolution is a not scientific fact it called a theory not established science you want us to believe in something that has not even been concluded like atheists.
you're talking about natural selection here : who or wat selects it, how does it select it, when or how often do they selct what is selecting and who programmed to select what is selecting.
who architected, programmed, engineered, built the selector and the selectee.
If it is not GOD who programmed it. then you are still the first atheists to believe in miracle and unexplained phenomeno.
7. Why should we be afraid to tell others we're leaving islam when we're living in us the land of the free.
that link i went to the website read everything my conclusion is that this a fallacy, a fabrication, and a fraudulent website that was built by fraudulent atheists. here how i concluded that
#A. look at FAQS of the same wesite you'll C question # 4 they say the only truth in the world is atheism and all religions are wrong.
B. they got alot of muslims names to claim that all of them converted from islam. but they don't even have pictures not even one that's a ver very weak evidence.
C. the used QURAN 9.29 to proof reason of their conversion and the violence of islam
AND finally my evidence is bettere then yours here is a website with videos of the people with their stories who converted from atheism, budhism, christianity, judaism, agnosism, and every other kind of ism TO ISLAM. http://thedeenshow.com/videos.php?action=listvideo&sid;=44
8. how do I know quran is unedited. # 1 it is a common knowledge among the muslim (1,600 million) and those who have a mind of their own to investigate it those who aren't dependent on CNN, FOX, ABC, and every other mind controlling device. that quran is one intact.
# 2 you can go to any mosque in alaska and then go to any mosque in asia, african you'll find the same quran.
# 3 try to find another version of quran anywhere in world see how many you'll find. it will alway be an arabic quran translated in what ever language.
#4 or find me or us evidence that quran was ever edited by man after the first one was written.
#1 thewebsite you gave me as evidence or to slander khalid yasin is a weak evidence because # it is not a real realiable or trustworth, site. it is WORDPRESS.
#2read the same website you posted on the bottom alot of answers by alot of people have been posted in defense of khalid yasin.
I told you think B4 U speak rice
the very last link you gave me of the lady who converted from islam to christianity she is a liar.
how to determine she is a liar
islam not izlam especially a born muslim wouldn't not pronounce it as izzlam as she is
a child does not fast at 5 in islam it's 15 that is requrement.
a muslim does not pray the way shes praying in the video especially with a peace of rock.
21st century scientific facts in the quran which were revealed 1400 years ago
1. You're just making a big giant excuse for having no proof of god. It isn't our job to do your homework. If you want to assert random and unlikely things like god, then you must prove them.
2. Being Muslim is a rejection of science because god is the apex of an anti-scientific idea: infinitely complicated, explains nothing, and no proof.
3. Hell doesn't exist, and appealing to fear doesn't work to people who know this.
4. Math doesn't prove god. Math was created by humans using logical axioms.
5. What do you think the Koran is? A device made by natural minds to pretend that morality came from an imaginary god. A society based on the Koran leads to rape, murder, fear, rape, lack of creativity, intimidation, persecution, rape, stunting of scientific progress and did I mention rape?
Middle Eastern countries like Saudi Arabia are full of sexual deviance, and exploitation of women. That's why they are hidden away in garments that cover everything. It's a way to make the women effectively nothing to that society.
6. Did I mention the rampant violence and genocide that Islam encourages? Good thing the predominantly Islamic countries of the world are so technologically backwards, probably a consequence of Islam itself and its denial of science.
7. Looks to me like Islam is full of inconsistencies and that's why you're panicking to defend it.
I want to congratulate you for finally activating a brain to answer a case of GOD with something other then Huckleberry Finn,
#2everything you speaking was already was already apoke about and have already been answered ( with links of evidences) hereinberore.
#3 I already told you below you are a fiction, stop reading watchin and communicating fiction.
# 4 WORSER you are now displaying how fraudulent, and deceitful you are by fabricating stories about islam for the sake of just destroying it too bad you will be incapable islam always always grows no matter what you do.
the Koran leads to rape, murder, fear, rape, lack of creativity, intimidation, persecution, rape, stunting of scientific progress and did I mention rape?
wher is your evidence for the foregoing claim
do you see how predictable you are I told you, you are just based on fiction before this
never will you communicate truth, listen see, or even hear truth.
no truth what so ever in your dispute none zip.
no evidence to back it.
aveskd you are nothing but a fraud, a deceiver, thinking or having illusions your fallacies and falsehood will stand and pass. but they won't. you are still a feable minded
someone a sleeping would think of a batter plan then you when you are awake.
or maybe you are 10 year old ignorant who doesn't know anything.
GOD (ALLAH) said
when Truth comes falsehood perishes sicerely the false and fiction has been always bound to perish and vanish.
2. You didn't provide evidence, you provided sophistry.
3. No gods or kings, only man.
4. I'm afraid I don't care about the population of Muslims because they occupy countries with militaries and technology that is decades behind the west.
My evidence is Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Pakistan. Three countries ravaged by Islam and theocracy. In these countries women are raped, rape victims are punished for adultery, witches are stoned or beheaded, people are executed for reading women's rights pamphlets, and no scientific progress comes from these countries, instead they buy the progress from the west.
Let me ask you some questions that I have often pondered:
1)If God is all loving, would he, send me to the hell fire simply because I questioned the writings of my fellow man, for requiring proof to believe?
2)Would God, that is watching your every move, not judge harshly the perverted sexual thoughts that are necessary to construct a scenario such as aveskade you've raped your grandpa.why did you rape that poor old man aveskde. and you've also have had sex with your own sister.?
Surely thinking this is sinful and if it is not then I am glad that I am not a Muslim because I couldn't stand living in a community that condones this sort of behavior.
# 1 you've haven't questioned any one who lives the religion or a scholar of a religion of islam to prove anything to you instead you go to the so called experts from where i don't know then you come on the internet to drop a vast amount of fallacies and illusions
# 2 you are stubborn incompatible to any one religious how will any thing be proven to you at all.
that is why he will burn you because you closed your own mind from him.
not only that you are trying to destroy his religion with your mouth.
as GOD STATES in the quran
61:8 Their intention is to extinguish Allah's Light (by blowing) with their mouths: But Allah will complete (the revelation of) His Light, even though the Unbelievers may detest (it)
and yes GOD is watching me but he unlike you is not unfair to the fullest extent just watching what I say and then speaking against it avesk is an enemy of GOD like you who is trying to spread fiction against GOD.
you recognize mine was a fabrication of scenerion against aves nonetheless you don't recognize his lies against islam.
what he's saying about islam contains no truth howsoever whatsoever
I constructed that to wake him or her up from sleep and prove that any one can declare a fiction against any one or anything but proving is not that easy.
You are not answering my questions because you are not thinking about what I am asking.
I am trying my hardest to debate with you honestly, are you not one of the religious people that you speak of.
I grew up in a very strict Roman Catholic house I know full well what the religious views are, I have three friends that are Muslims and I have shown them your debates and they say that you are talking shit.
If I lead a good life and take care of my fellow man then I am in the eyes of a benevolent creator entitled to recompense for my good deeds as well as my bad.
I have not at anytime tried to destroy your religion with my mouth, what I have done is question the authenticity of the teachings, especially those that are from gangsters like Khalid Yesin , are you that naive that you believe wholeheartedly in what someone else told you, think about this.
You say "as God states in the Qu'ran"
Was the Qu'ran not written by Muhammad.
and yes GOD is watching me but he unlike you is not unfair to the fullest extent just watching what I say and then speaking against it avesk is an enemy of GOD like you who is trying to spread fiction against GOD.
How have I been unfair to the fullest extent, I have not tried to spread fiction, if I am not mistaken I was debating with you.
what he's saying about islam contains no truth howsoever whatsoever
Yes it does the Qu'ran explicitly states that it is OK to rape the wives of your slaves if they are not Islamic.
I constructed that to wake him or her up from sleep and prove that any one can declare a fiction against any one or anything but proving is not that easy.
This does not take from the fact that you thought and typed horrendously immoral pornographic words. I am slowly losing respect for you, when you defended your religion I had respect, but when you resort to this filth then I can only conclude that your words are meaningless.
U grew in strict catholic house. well their are priests, preachers, ministers, scholars of christianity who became muslims for the same reason's you became an atheist instead. evidence of them avialable upon request. are you saying you are better then the people described hereinbefore.
look! you resorted to talking so much shit about GOD instead of trying to look for answers of GOD
truly you could know well what the religious views are. but trust me you have no idea what true islam is. all you know about islam is 3% that was exagerated by the mass media into 200% so in your misconception you could think you know about islam 100% more then muslims themselves know but that is just a fallacy.
if you lead a good life, take care of fellow man, and the other hand disbelieve in god, mock god, jest about the revelation of god. all your deeds will be scattered into dust in the hereafter that quote from the revelation of god you don't believe in islam.
and christianity 1st john 2:2 jesus came to die for the sins of all not exclusively christians.
the difference between muslims and christians we (muslims) know our purpose of life is to obey submit ourselves to command of god
and christians is to sin as much as possible and just charge it under the JC gold card.
then you think you have the whole web of religion.
do your 3 friends pray 5 times or are they just so called muslims.
which part of our debate have u shown to your three muslim friends is it the once that are appealing for you.
i bet you haven't shown or told them about all the 20 to 200 pages of our debate.
and have you ever asked them why they follow a goats herder as their model.
oh you're not destroying our religion with your mouth. so falsefully, fraudulently, calling our religion a religion of rapers, a religion of terrorism, a religion of blood loving vampires, call us 1,600 million musims goats who follow a goats herder.
and then instructing others on how to make the verses of GOD foolish by copying pasting, replacing god with the spaghetti monster, the flinstones, or narnia is not a manner or misbehavior or intention to destort and destroy the perception of islam in the peoples mind.
you are a very cunning character who ever you are.
khalid yasin has made alot of speaches on which one whole speach are you judging him from. I bet you haven't even watched one of his speach I got 20 of his DVDs how many do you have
you go on this non truthworthy websites to find negative things about him and you will do you know why.
here is why the video below his speach is so effective.
no Quran was not written by muhammad (saws) but i know you will try to insist so with your ignorance.
how can an illitirate man write a book that is used as a grammatical laws from then until now 1400 yrs.
how cud an ilitirate write a book that is used as law by numorous countries until today 21st century.
how cud he write a 500-6 pages book that is poetical and harmonously coherent from start to end.
and covering every aspect of life
and covering almost every prophet with his story that came before him.
how cud an illitirate man write a book with eloquent speach that had appealed and fascinated so many that 10 million people memrized in 21st century in it's entirety.
hence the book called the quran is not written by him but it was revealed to him.
i did not say you are unfair to the fullest extent because u was spreading fiction but i said that because when I say something about this people falsefully calling us falsefully rapers and other herroundous things you support them
but when i use the same word against them then you dispute against me asking me how i cud use this sexually perverted words.
is n't that one sidedness.
where does the quran state to rape woman if they are slaves or not muslims.
you call this respect with your falsehood. I'm starting to believe you are lying about those 3 muslims friends.
if you do really have them aren't you afraid they will rape you or something.
your mind is so currupted therefore fix it i think it is your job.
so typing horrendously immoral pornographic fallacious, words against islam or god is ok.
but if i do that to someone in defense of GOD or religion its immoral, its bad, it is disrespectful, it is unscrupulous and everything else that is nagative why is that because your develish mind doesn't think god exists therefore it is ok to say anything negative against GOD but not someone who does exist.
if you are gradually losing respect it doesn't matter to me because it doesn't seem that you are the person i should respect too.
I should only have respect to someone who is open to reason. someone who recognizes the sides of others without preconditions.
why shouldn't christians atheists hate khalid when each of his speach is taking 22 people from them
evidence of them avialable upon request. are you saying you are better then the people described hereinbefore.
Why are you asking, I never stated anything of the sort, you have an issue with staying on topic.
look! you resorted to talking so much shit about GOD instead of trying to look for answers of GOD
I was not talking any shit about God I was only answering your posts. I was asking you questions about God, you are the one that stated you had logical proof, I stated you didn't.
all you know about islam is 3% that was exagerated by the mass media into 200% so in your misconception you could think you know about islam 100% more then muslims themselves know but that is just a fallacy.
I think that you have no place to tell anyone if they do or don't know anything about Islam, some of your rants have been very unIslamic, I don't care much for the media, I don't believe everything that I hear from them as I like to question everything. It is obvious that a Muslim would know more about Islam than me, but this does not stop me from knowing, as I have said I have Muslim friends and I even speak a small bit of Arabic.
if you lead a good life, take care of fellow man, and the other hand disbelieve in god, mock god, jest about the revelation of god. all your deeds will be scattered into dust in the hereafter that quote from the revelation of god you don't believe in islam.
I have not mocked God, I have questioned the man made teachings that go with Islam.
do your 3 friends pray 5 times or are they just so called muslims
Yes and they don't drink, or talk about sex the way you do, and they fast for Ramadan which is very difficult.
which part of our debate have u shown to your three muslim friends is it the once that are appealing for you.
All of it, they unlike you can respect that someone else has different views, they know I don't believe and I often talk to them about Islam and religion in general.
and have you ever asked them why they follow a goats herder as their model.
Yes I have. They don't like it but was he not a Goat herder.
oh you're not destroying our religion with your mouth. so falsefully, fraudulently, calling our religion a religion of rapers, a religion of terrorism, a religion of blood loving vampires, call us 1,600 million musims goats who follow a goats herder.
I never said anything about Vampires, the Qu'ran does advocate rape of non Muslim women even though not all Muslims are the same. and if you follow a Goat Herder what does that make you?
and then instructing others on how to make the verses of GOD foolish by copying pasting, replacing god with the spaghetti monster, the flinstones, or narnia is not a manner or misbehavior or intention to destort and destroy the perception of islam in the peoples mind.
Its called humor, it is something you need to get a sense of and nobody would take it serious only you.
khalid yasin has made alot of speaches on which one whole speach are you judging him from. I bet you haven't even watched one of his speach I got 20 of his DVDs how many do you have
I have none, but I have seen a few speeches on youtube after you posted them. The speech that was the topic of this debate is one I am judging him on.
how can an illitirate man write a book that is used as a grammatical laws from then until now 1400 yrs.
How do you know for certain that the Qu'ran was written by Muhammad and he was Illiterate?
did not say you are unfair to the fullest extent because u was spreading fiction but i said that because when I say something about this people falsefully calling us falsefully rapers and other herroundous things you support them
I know that there are a great many good peaceful Muslims, probably more than there is belligerent ones, if I have given the impression that I think all Muslims are rapists then for this I apologize.
but when i use the same word against them then you dispute against me asking me how i cud use this sexually perverted words.
The difference is that you constructed sick scenarios such as raping old men and detailed incestuous situations. You should know as a man of Islam that people will mock you but it is your ability to not sink to that level that defines your character.
where does the quran state to rape woman if they are slaves or not muslims.
Sura 23:6 Save from their wives or the (slaves) that their right hands possess, for then they are not blameworthy,
you call this respect with your falsehood. I'm starting to believe you are lying about those 3 muslims friends
Think what you want.
I should only have respect to someone who is open to reason. someone who recognizes the sides of others without preconditions.
Maybe you should try this your self, there was no reason in your arguments.
Why would I watch a propaganda video? I've seen your other videos and they're always propaganda.
Besides the fact that I know I'm right because I can just watch the latest human rights violations occurring in Iran, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. Islam is brutal.
if something is absolutely big that it doesn't have a proper definition then it is the proof that you atheists are following something uncertain as a way of life,
I am following nothing and this is where you seem to be unable to understand, for me there is no worship, no praying, no wasting my time worrying about God judging me I am free to be the person I want to be, this is something you are not.
As an atheist I require proof before I believe so who is following something uncertain:
You with your fourteen hundred year old book written by Goat Herders.
Me with empirical evidence to support my beliefs.
your whole hearts, minds, and attention are at that thing called scienfic investigation which has not concluded the life within or beyond it is still investigating it is in doubt thus how can atheists determine theres absolutely no god.
This is the same thing as above, an Atheist doesn't need science at all one can arrive at that place as a matter of logical inference. You need God in your life I do not.
atheists depend on science how can atheist prove to me GOD does not exist
Again Atheists don't depend on science, but an atheist that is willing to argue with a religious person will use science in his argument. But it is not an Atheists job to prove to you that God does not exist, the Atheist does not need to prove anything, if you want me to believe in God or Allah then prove it to me don't just say it, I could easily say that the Flying Spaghetti Monster exists and I would have no proof of his existence, I would essentially be in the same position as you.
then science has not fully investigated or explored everything and determined what the secret of life is. if they (scientists) have we wouldn't have to die would we?
And what is your point, do you actually believe there is a secret to life, do you actually believe that science can make it so people wont die? This is ridiculous.
finger print comes from a known source the earth does not... really is that logic the earth comes from nothingness. nothingness you mean it then you must be the first atheist to believe in miracles, or phenomeno, or something unexplained and unexplanable.
Yes it is logic, I never once stated the Earth came from nothingness (there is a lot of evidence that it did) but its source is as yet unknown this will not always be the way and then there will be a source to reference, open your mind and try to think about this. I do not personally believe in miracles that is your job I believe in what can be proved.
.we the muslims do not qualify for A. because our religion never changes it is written (reavealed) once 1400 years ago and it is unlawful to change anything within our religion.
Please give me a break, it is naive to think that there is no fault in the Qu'ran.
as of the B. muslims don't reject scientific investigation of everything unlike christians.
Ah, yes ye do.
in a book revealed 1400 yrs ago how can it have scientific facts of the 21st century without GOD being the source of revelation.
I watched the video there is no scientific facts explained, just some quote mining. The video claims that a passage that says "And he created the heavens and the Earth" some how is the explanation of the big bang theory.
Please tell me why, if the Qu'ran is the word of Allah in his infinite wisdom did it not actually predict any scientific break-throughs not one, all it has is random phrases that could be attributed to anything. Please answer this Question I would like to hear your answer.
.the base is math without math theres no science and guess who invented that base watch this two mins video
Wrong the Mesopotamian Babylonians have the earliest known mathematical writings and they were Polytheists they were not Muslim.
Morality can never come from a natural mind or atheists because all mind from itself produces is gready, corruption like woman walking naked dancing naked the exploitation of woman as a result the woman get a name whore. that what every body calls a woman here in america may be you don't know.
Morality can come from an evolved natural mind I have explained this before to you. A women in non Islamic states makes her own choices, if she wants to dance naked for money that is her choice she is not being exploited and certainly not labeled a whore, that is not what I would call a women in America and since when do you speak for the rest of the world, except from the religious pigs that wish to suppress a womens rights.
What I have also gleamed there is that you live in America, why if you hate the place so much do you not move to an Islamic state I am sure you will be happy there.
atheism is not honor because death is not honor atheism to believe once death occurs that is the end of the human what kind of destination is that?
genourosity you can't be genorous without religion greadiness of more and more is all atheism produces.
AH I see you believe because you are afraid if you don't that when you die you will be judged, don't worry all will be over when your lights go out.
On the second point are you saying that all non religious people are greedy and selfish, here is a fact for you all humans are greedy to an extent look at the Islamic oil Sheiks, so much for brotherhood.
nobody without a religion can be humble in recognizing others ranks levels.
From what knowledge do you make this accusation.
atheism is only arrogance nothing else especially once someone trys to proof god or relgion to them.
I would disagree, you want to label Atheists as arrogant because they don't agree with you.
evolution is a not scientific fact it called a theory not established science you want us to believe in something that has not even been concluded like atheists.
Evolution is as close to scientific fact as any biological theory can be, the word theory unfortunately has two or more meanings the first which is applied to the theory of Evolution is "a set of ideas and systems that account for a group of facts and phenomena, a hypothesis that has been confirmed by established observation and experiment."(shortened)
The other meaning which is not applied to evolution is "A hypothesis proposed as an explanation".
you're talking about natural selection here : who or wat selects it, how does it select it, when or how often do they selct what is selecting and who programmed to select what is selecting.
who architected, programmed, engineered, built the selector and the selectee.
There is no intelligence selecting anything, it is clear that you do not know anything about Evolution by Natural Selection, Evolution by Natural selection states that living organisms through slight random mutations influenced by Natural environmental and sexual pressures change over vast amounts of time. Nobody designed it, nobody programmed it, it just happens. If some one designed it why would birds devolve wings, why would fish in caves go blind?
Tell me how old do you believe the Earth is? How long has man been on the planet?
7. Why should we be afraid to tell others we're leaving islam when we're living in us the land of the free.
Because they will be ostracized by their friends and family.
What is the penalty for Apostasy, I asked you this before and you have not yet answered it.
#A. look at FAQS of the same wesite you'll C question # 4 they say the only truth in the world is atheism and all religions are wrong.
This is their belief, genius they have left Islam so obviously they don't believe the BS anymore.
B. they got alot of muslims names to claim that all of them converted from islam. but they don't even have pictures not even one that's a ver very weak evidence.
This is because these people are afraid as I say above of being ostracized or maybe killed for apostasy.
3 try to find another version of quran anywhere in world see how many you'll find. it will alway be an arabic quran translated in what ever language.
This is in my opinion because Islam still has a massive hold over all its people, also it is six hundred years younger than Christianity plenty of time to edit the bible for their own ways.
C. the used QURAN 9.29 to proof reason of their conversion and the violence of islam
This is just interpreting the same passage to your own avail, I don't agree with either.
how do I know quran is unedited. # 1 it is a common knowledge among the muslim (1,600 million) and those who have a mind of their own to investigate it those who aren't dependent on CNN, FOX, ABC, and every other mind controlling device. that quran is one intact.
Just because it is a common knowledge does not make it so.
Why as I have asked you is CNN, FOX and ABC so unreliable but NBC is OK?
AND finally my evidence is bettere then yours
No it is not all of your evidence is from personal testaments from Muslims this is not evidence.
If GOD didn't then who created everything.
Why does someone have to have created anything it shows a weak mind that you would have to have a creator.
1 thewebsite you gave me as evidence or to slander khalid yasin is a weak evidence because # it is not a real realiable or trustworth, site. it is WORDPRESS.
I do, it is obvious you don't think at all, you cant think because you are governed by Islam.
the very last link you gave me of the lady who converted from islam to christianity she is a liar.
I don't care if she is a liar or not I posted that link to show you that there is a youtube clip for anything you want to say and they are not trustworthy.
Finally the original point of this debate was you telling people that the speech as given by an fraudulent, eccentric, deluded, unqualified, lying, conspiracy theorist is proof of Gods existence, well as I have proved his word is shit, it cant even be trusted let alone believed. This is not Proof, I repeat not Proof
To summarize please answer these Questions:
How old is the planet?
How long has man been on the planet?
What is the penalty for Apostasy?
Where did Allah come from?
If Allah has infinite wisdom, why did the Qu'ran not predict anything of substance?
If I presented proof of the non existence of Allah would you still believe in him?
If you hate Western Culture so much why do you live in America?
Why is NBC reliable but ABC, FOX and CNN are not?
If you believe Khalid Yasin is a reliable source then do you believe that Osama Bin Laden does not exist, that America made the AIDS virus to give to Africans, that a Muslim can not have a non-Muslim friend (because I have several Muslim friends), that Homosexuals should be killed, that women should be beaten? Do you agree with this horrible Bullshit?
Seeing that you have not bothered to answer to my last post will you answer these following questions:
Why did Allah in his infinite wisdom not give an accurate description of the Big Bang?
Why do you need to prove the existence of Allah?
If science tomorrow proves the big bang theory wrong where will that leave your explanation?
How old is the planet?
How long has man been on the planet?
What is the penalty for Apostasy?
Where did Allah come from?
If Allah has infinite wisdom, why did the Qu'ran not predict anything of substance?
If I presented proof of the non existence of Allah would you still believe in him?
If you hate Western Culture so much why do you live in America?
Why is NBC reliable but ABC, FOX and CNN are not?
If you believe Khalid Yasin is a reliable source then do you believe that Osama Bin Laden does not exist, that America made the AIDS virus to give to Africans, that a Muslim can not have a non-Muslim friend (because I have several Muslim friends), that Homosexuals should be killed, that women should be beaten?
you're saying GOD did not accurately describe the big bang but he did.
I don't need to prove the existance of god to any muslim or myself. proving it to myself is so easy the prove of GOD is you, me, the people, the earth, the skies, the nigh that changes in to a day, the rain, the balance, of the earth, the million and millions of species, the air, the stars, the sun, the moon, the darkness, the light, the everything thing that maintains and preserves all the foregoing, the food that nurtures, maintains, and preserves us. the tornedoes, the lightning, the power of the mther nature, the laws of the clauds to keep em between the skies, all the above and countless more around us and beyond us are the signs, evidences, proofs that exhibit the power of GOD & his existance.
on the other hand proving GOD to atheists is impossible the reason for that is that atheists brains are misssing conponents, or somekind of driver, that makes them incompatible to religions and GOD something comparable to atheists is the computer when it is missing a driver it will be incompatible to something until you download the driver from internet then it will fuction so smoothly and properly with thing it was before incompatible to.
I know how to cure atheists from this desease but atheists are not understanders if I tell U to do so and so then see if you'll believe or not u won't because atheism being a rigid, stubborn, a rock is softer to break through then an atheist. atheism is arrogance making illusions more important then any else's suggestion.
science will not prove anything in Quran wrong evidence of that is that science has never proven anything in quran wrong.
knowing how old the planet is is not your purpose of life or imperative to the life of a human because if the planet is a million, a billion or a trillion years you the human will not live that long best chance is 100 yrs and the worsest u will be aborted.
doesn't matter how long man has been on the planet
one of the miracle of the islam today is that people are entering islam by the masses estimated 100,000 western people convert to islam because they investigate the islam with their own minds, they go consult real muslims at the local mosques for answers. not quran itself or islam itself that bestows a death penalty for those who apostate
this is what quran says about those who reject 18:29 It is the massage from GOD people have 2 option you can accept it or reject. and quran 2:256 there is no compusion to religion. is what is says now to prove the there is a death penalty for those who apostate in islam you must give me evidence from quran not someone said so we don't follow nobody but we follow the quran & I don't care what someone says.
you to know where allah come from. you are being absurd right there see your senselesness tells you we have eternity to live this life but at the end you be done. if I tell you where allah is from u'll ask where is that from and where is that from and where is that from.
I don't know what you mean by substance.
quran has predicted something that was not found until 1898
what u mean if you present proofs of allah doesn't exist would i still.
the parable of that question is
if I present proof you don't exist would you still believe you exist. or
if I present to you proofs walmart is owned by nobody would go steal things from it.
the answer is no no no
as a matter of fact your mind is possed by a devil your thoughts are satanic thoughts but you really thinking these are you are own smart questions and ideas. you are an enemy of GOD may the curse of GOD BE upon you ricedaragh.
the reason i live in american and hate the western culture will posted as a new argument below with a video.
I didn't say NBC is reliable never metioned it you're saying I said that or trying to insist I connoted that but I didn't the tv with all the channels is not reliable. Tv today is a way to buy a humans and own them and emploit them with commercials. but you not ready to be disconnected from the tv that is bambarting and feeding you with so much fiction you will fight and do anything to keep this mind controlling device.
I have a non muslim friend too what is you implication.
as regard to ameirica with virus for africans watch that video i will post below with a new argument.
i don't know any muslims who beat their woman because that is islamic way.
and homosexual are a desease to the world among every other kind of crisis and deseases facing the western world. god has created a pussy for a dick & vice versa
can you tell me how would your father or mother have you if your father was fucking man in their ass and he was getting fucked in the ass.
now don't get emotional that is the only anological staements I could make to give an Idea homosexuality is not a way of life it is a curruption.
and lets say you gave every one to be a homo then all of the sudden every one becomes a homosexual in the whole globe.
how will humanity contunue.
as regards to osama bin laden it is not only khalid that says that
it is the americans since khalid is a negroe who have freed himself from this predicament. watch this documentary and lift the wool from your illuded eye.
you're saying GOD did not accurately describe the big bang but he did
NO he did not.
I don't need to prove the existance of god to any muslim or myself. proving it to myself is so easy the prove of GOD is you, me, the people, the earth, the skies, the nigh that changes in to a day, the rain, the balance, of the earth, the million and millions of species, the air, the stars, the sun, the moon, the darkness, the light, the everything thing that maintains and preserves all the foregoing, the food that nurtures, maintains, and preserves us. the tornedoes, the lightning, the power of the mther nature, the laws of the clauds to keep em between the skies, all the above and countless more around us and beyond us are the signs, evidences, proofs that exhibit the power of GOD & his existance.
And what about disease, pedophilia, murder, rape, torture, war, poverty, if he created everything then he created these as well.
atheism is arrogance making illusions more important then any else's suggestion.
So to require proof is arrogance making illusions?
science will not prove anything in Quran wrong evidence of that is that science has never proven anything in quran wrong.
What about Evolution, or the fact that Craig Ventor has synthesized life in a laboratory.
knowing how old the planet is is not your purpose of life or imperative to the life of a human because if the planet is a million, a billion or a trillion years you the human will not live that long best chance is 100 yrs and the worsest u will be aborted.
I am sure it is not your place to tell me my purpose in life.
knowing how old the planet is is not your purpose of life or imperative to the life of a human because if the planet is a million, a billion or a trillion years you the human will not live that long best chance is 100 yrs and the worsest u will be aborted.
It is very important, especially when you state the Qu'ran accurately describe the creation of the Universe.
doesn't matter how long man has been on the planet
Yes it does, if you are to state that science has not proved the Qu'ran wrong.
you to know where allah come from. you are being absurd right there see your senselesness tells you we have eternity to live this life but at the end you be done. if I tell you where allah is from u'll ask where is that from and where is that from and where is that from.
This is my point Allah or God is not an answer to proof.
I don't know what you mean by substance.
Anything of value, anything that is correct to what science has discovered.
quran has predicted something that was not found until 1898
This is not a prediction. If anything it is a historical account I have never stated that the Qu'ran is 100% fallacy.
what u mean if you present proofs of allah doesn't exist would i still.
the parable of that question is
if I present proof you don't exist would you still believe you exist. or
if I present to you proofs walmart is owned by nobody would go steal things from it.
the answer is no no no
What you are telling me here is that your faith is not 100% solid, you are saying that evidence found by man can shake your belief.
you are an enemy of GOD may the curse of GOD BE upon you ricedaragh.
Now now, no need for this sort of shit.
I didn't say NBC is reliable never metioned it you're saying I said that or trying to insist I connoted that but I didn't
In the very same argument you stated that ABC, CNN and FOX are untrustworthy and then posted a clip taken from an NBC broadcast.
but you not ready to be disconnected from the tv that is bambarting and feeding you with so much fiction you will fight and do anything to keep this mind controlling device.
I don't watch TV, and I don't believe everything I hear.
I have a non muslim friend too what is you implication.
Your hero Khalid Yesin states that a Muslim can not have a non Muslim friend, so is that you believe in only some of his teachings or you hate your non Muslim friend.
i don't know any muslims who beat their woman because that is islamic way.
Then obviously the teachings of Khalid Yesin are not followed, hmmm.
and homosexual are a desease to the world among every other kind of crisis and deseases facing the western world. god has created a pussy for a dick & vice versa
No they're not, Homosexuals can not change who they are and it is religious bigotry such as this that is toturing innocent people the world over, so much for Mr Yesin's idea of integration,
and lets say you gave every one to be a homo then all of the sudden every one becomes a homosexual in the whole globe.
Homosexuals do not have a choice in their orientation, in western society it is now OK to be Gay and it hasn't turned us into a society of Homosexuals, so where from do you draw your inference.
can you tell me how would your father or mother have you if your father was fucking man in their ass and he was getting fucked in the ass.
This is a ridiculous question that shows that you do not understand what Homosexuality is.
I don't need to prove the existance of god to any muslim or myself. proving it to myself is so easy the prove of GOD is you, me, the people, the earth, the skies, the nigh that changes in to a day, the rain, the balance, of the earth, the million and millions of species, the air, the stars, the sun, the moon, the darkness, the light, the everything thing that maintains and preserves all the foregoing, the food that nurtures, maintains, and preserves us. the tornedoes, the lightning, the power of the mther nature, the laws of the clauds to keep em between the skies, all the above and countless more around us and beyond us are the signs, evidences, proofs that exhibit the power of GOD & his existance.
Using your reasoning, then, the chair I sit upon is proof of god's nonexistence. It's so obvious I shouldn't have to explain it, but I will. Chairs prove that god doesn't exist, therefore this chair, which exists, proves god isn't real.
Easy, huh?
on the other hand proving GOD to atheists is impossible the reason for that is that atheists brains are misssing conponents, or somekind of driver, that makes them incompatible to religions and GOD something comparable to atheists is the computer when it is missing a driver it will be incompatible to something until you download the driver from internet then it will fuction so smoothly and properly with thing it was before incompatible to.
Muslims are missing a driver called "Common_Sense.dll"
this is what quran says about those who reject 18:29 It is the massage from GOD people have 2 option you can accept it or reject. and quran 2:256 there is no compusion to religion. is what is says now to prove the there is a death penalty for those who apostate in islam you must give me evidence from quran not someone said so we don't follow nobody but we follow the quran & I don't care what someone says.
Maybe all those muslims waving banners that read "kill those who don't follow Islam" or the murders that have been carried out upon apostates. Of course in your mind these things never happen.
now it will take a good professional liar to show that quran has a contradiction within it and it will not be easy two to three pages just to explain something into a contradiction.
you want me to explain a whole website invested for and devoted for fabrication and fraud. I can't But I will pick one from the same site they are fallaciously declaring to be a contradiction.
[6:100] Yet, they set up beside GOD idols from among the jinns, though He is the One who created them. They even attribute to Him sons and daughters, without any knowledge. Be He glorified. He is the Most High, far above their claims.
[6:101] The Initiator of the heavens and the earth. How can He have a son, when He never had a mate? He created all things, and He is fully aware of all things.
and then the following vesrse is suppose to be the contradiction of the foregoing verses
[39:3] Absolutely, the religion shall be devoted to GOD alone. Those who set up idols beside Him say, "We idolize them only to bring us closer to GOD; for they are in a better position!" GOD will judge them regarding their disputes. GOD does not guide such liars, disbelievers.
[39:4] If GOD wanted to have a son, He could have chosen whomever He willed from among His creations. Be He glorified; He is GOD, the One, the Supreme.
those liars are saying that the foregoing is in contradiction with the primitive verses. and the reason they stated because one side of the quran says god can't and the other says he can do so.
now here is my explanation.
both of verses connote that GOD is higher power who doesn't beget son's as the humans or animals his creations do. to have one child like huimans do. everything belongs to him he can choose any person he wants and that person belongs to him the creator.
both of those verses have been negatively directed at Christians who claim Jesus is the son of god (especially the only son of God)
everything belongs to god if he wants a son he doesn't have to have son son as humans do but he can choose any one.
No, I dont want you to explain a whole website, that would be absurd, I just wanted you realise that the Qu'ran is not as perfect as you say. You say it is fallacy and misinterpretation I say it is flaw.
EXCELLENT! wont we have to get the spaghetti monsters chosen clothing? aka pirate suite? and wont we need to have it on a pirate ship? this should be fun
i think you should take a camera record how brother makes sex with their own sister and then expose in jerry springers show now that will make a good contribution to americans culture.
this world was created to be only a temporary delight those who enjoy now like just having fun kick in it who don't want to have anything with siriussness will not have a portion of the enjoyment of the parmanent life.
This world had been created to only be one way and that way is disposable
the human is usable once and then once it dies it is disposable
the world itself will die one day
the life life you have will come out of you and you will be worthless
in order to use this disposable life well you need read the users manual and that users manual is called the quran which questions the infidel it says:
how can you deny Allâh(GOD)? When you were without life He gave you life, then He will cause you to die and again raise you to life and you shall be made to return to Him TO BE JUDGED BY YOUR GOD. (2:28)
MAY BE YOU DON'T WANT TO BE JUDGED BUT WATCH THIS VIDEO IN THAT CASE
MAY BE YOU DON'T WANT TO BE JUDGED BUT WATCH THIS IN THAT CASE
Yes but who says that the Quran is the user's manual? Some dude who thought he'd make a nice new religion and write a book? Why shouldnt the bible or any other religious text be my user's manual?
the rule is to walk the talk before just talking the talk without walkiing the walk. those who use flying spaghetti monter are feeble minded who can't understand anything any one says and even if they do understand it then they can't respond thus the best smartest move they can make is to copy paste and replace somewords. get your ignorance out of here and get a brain cwmdulais i think they sell it on ebay.
as a follower of his noodly guidance i will not resort to petty anger and hate, he hopes that you will one day open your eyes to his tasty meatballs, and will be accepted into his heaven, that has a stripper factory and beer volcano, I'm am very saddened at your small attempt at wit, as it is clouded by the lasagne's hate, spaghetti be with you RA-men
"When he is told to have fear of Allah, he is seized by pride which drives him to wrongdoing. Hell will be enough for him! What an evil resting-place! (Qur'an, 2:206)" what does this exactly prove? that the Qur'an new not everyone will fall under its sway? its lies? that not everyone will be blinded, by a fairy tale?
2:212 Beautified is the life of the world for those who disbelieve; they make a jest of the believers. But those who keep their duty to Allah will be above them on the Day of Resurrection. Allah giveth without stint to whom He will.
again, just a attempt at scaring people into believing false words.
# 1 your brain is fiction it bestows fiction it loves fiction it depends on hearing fiction but once truth is exposed to it. it transforms it your heart becomes emotional and your brain becomes disfunctional to be compatible to truth or something called god. your whole life is a dream once death shuts u down from this material world. thats when you'll wake up to find yourself in a house of fire. it's then you'll find out you was not that smart all along. dream dream dream and enjoy the dream for now.
In what I wrote is also incompantibility and that's what you are incompatible to truth or me. you should not understand me until you quit reading, watching and comunicating fiction stories.
Guess what the Quran didn't import any of bibles mistakes........ now note that prophet Muhammad (saws) didn't possess microscpic tools to do all this But he had access to God on his side. Quran has stood scientific and every other kind of tests that the Bible could not. The truth is right before your very eyes but you can't even vesualize as tupac said.
The truth is not before our eyes. An answer is before our eyes, but there are plenty of other answers too, and I believe that quite a few of them are more likely theories than this one.
You can find all kinds of information about other things primitive man didn't understand thousands of years ago when the Bible, Quran and other instruction manuals for the deluded were written there too!
The man in the video states that the earth is evidence that some higher power created it. I see no reason as to why the earth can't be evidence that the big bang caused it, or that some weird fluke of nature that made everything exist caused it. The man there was a great speaker, but his logic was a bit flawed.
again, the quran provides AN explanation of the big bang but there are plenty of other explanations out there that seem way more likely to me. it just makes more sense to have been caused by a fluke of nature then to it have been created. for it to have been created, then it needs a creator, and then that begs the question of who created the creator? it's simpler and makes more sense for the universe to have just have come for some other reason.
But what's amazing is how did the quran stated something that was just discovered scientifically in the 21st century without a higher power.
that higher power is allah next watch this video and pay attention to the questions listen. it talks about people disbelieve and also people who believe.
I watched this video and it is bullshit. the Qu'ran verse in question is very vague.
Why did Allah in his infinite wisdom not give an accurate description of the Big Bang?
Why do you need to prove the existence of Allah?
If you are open to proving the existence of Allah then you must by Logic be open to his non existence. Surely faith is enough and all doubters will get their punishment.
Also if science tomorrow proves the big bang theory wrong where will that leave your explanation?
stop your deafness, dumbness, blindness, and arrogance ricedaragh
the world had been created, engineered, architected, programmed with laws.
and those laws of nature will never ever go beyond or below the Quran they'll stay within the boundaries of the Quran.
So they have for 1400 years since the Quran had been revealed
So they will.
I hereby carry two proofs in one for you ricedaragh
death will be enough to destroy all your plots theories against GOD.
and death will be enough to prove the power of GOD to you.
you want to see GOD You won't not here not now But on the other hand you shall insha'allah a period of only time from now
and that day GOD has a description for Ricedaragh here it is he said the following in quran
2:166 When the leaders see the torment of hellifre and lose all their resources, and plotts they will denounce their followers
And (at that time) the followers shall say, `If we could only return (to the life of the world) we would disown them and sever ourselves from them as they disowned and severed themselves from us.' Thus Allâh will make them regret their deeds and they shall never (of themselves) get out of the Fire.
stop your deafness, dumbness, blindness, and arrogance ricedaragh
You must be talking about someone else here, I can see, I hear, I speak and I am not arrogant..... well maybe a little.
the world had been created, engineered, architected, programmed with laws.
The Universe has physical laws, but that does not mean that it was created by anything.
and those laws of nature will never ever go beyond or below the Quran they'll stay within the boundaries of the Quran.
Except for Evolution by Natural Selection, right?
So they have for 1400 years since the Quran had been revealed
So they will.
What is this supposed to mean?
I hereby carry two proofs in one for you ricedaragh
death will be enough to destroy all your plots theories against GOD.
and death will be enough to prove the power of GOD to you.
you want to see GOD You won't not here not now But on the other hand you shall insha'allah a period of only time from now
Nope, no proof here.
and that day GOD has a description for Ricedaragh here it is he said the following in quran
2:166 When the leaders see the torment of hellifre and lose all their resources, and plotts they will denounce their followers
And (at that time) the followers shall say, `If we could only return (to the life of the world) we would disown them and sever ourselves from them as they disowned and severed themselves from us.' Thus Allâh will make them regret their deeds and they shall never (of themselves) get out of the Fire.
I was excited about this one it didnt even mention my name once.
Abubakar31 the fact as it stands is that you have no proof of the existence of God, this is OK, you do not need to prove he exists, verses from a 1400 year old goat herders handbook is not going to convince anyone, neither are youtube clips of people talking what is clearly fallacy.
but that goats herder is followed or revered by 1.6 billion people today around the world of various of races.
you think you are more suphisticated then him but you ain't just show me one muslim who disowned that goats herder and followed you
none right
part of the maricle of muhammad salla llahu alayhi wasallam is that he is only goats herder and he is illitirate who don't know how to read or write
but he is followed as a model by countless # of 21st century professionals that icludes doctors, scientists, lawyers, and many many more follow him
I call that miraculous/amazing.
and you are jelous huh.
no one knows you with your what ever status is that you claim to have.
you want to be better then any one you want to be seen
but you just lost the fight against a 7th century goats herder.
ouch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that must hurt.
maybe you should see a psychatric before you commit suicide.
because it obvious that you don't believe you are hurt, you have loath that so many people could follow this man but not you.
you want GOD the lord of existance to mention your name ha ha ha ha ha ha ha lol.
who the hell are you
GOD has created a human being with a capability to learn but your stubborness, stauchness, and obsitinateness is worser worser then the animal's.
what a self degration but your illusions and the devil is wispering into your mind telling you. you are the greatest you are the greatest and you're really falling for that aren't you.
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha lol.ha ha ha ha ha ha ha lol.ha ha ha ha ha ha ha lol.
but that goats herder is followed or revered by 1.6 billion people today around the world of various of races.
There is a lot of sheep in this world, or should that be goats:)
you think you are more suphisticated then him but you ain't just show me one muslim who disowned that goats herder and followed you
I never stated that, please stop making wild assumptions. Why would anyone follow me? Who am I? I would hate anyone to follow me. Following someone else is what sheep do, and Muslims have given up Islam to deny this is blind.
part of the maricle of muhammad salla llahu alayhi wasallam is that he is only goats herder and he is illitirate who don't know how to read or write
Thats if you believe it was written by him or if you believe he was illiterate.
but he is followed as a model by countless # of 21st century professionals that icludes doctors, scientists, lawyers, and many many more follow him
Good for them.
and you are jelous huh.
Nope.
no one knows you with your what ever status is that you claim to have.
Again wild assumptions, you don't know who I am.
you want to be better then any one you want to be seen
Jesus, this is getting ridiculous.
but you just lost the fight against a 7th century goats herder.
ouch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that must hurt.
If he wants to show his face I will go toe to toe.
you want GOD the lord of existance to mention your name ha ha ha ha ha ha ha lol.
who the hell are you
Obviously you are not familiar with sarcasm.
what a self degration but your illusions and the devil is wispering into your mind telling you. you are the greatest you are the greatest and you're really falling for that aren't you.
If he is whispering in my ear then he is telling me some random things like, hope the baby doesn't wake up and I'm hungry I could murder a subway.
I was thinking you were an atheist this whole time I was disputing you but you have called the name of Jesus above. what's going on are you a christian now all of the sudden you need GOD'S help.
ok in that case I must transform my mode
so which Jesus is that you're calling upon
(A) the muslim Jesus who is suppose to be a prophet
or (B)is it christian's jesus who is suppose to be a GOD, son of god, a person in the trinity, he is his own father, who had himself with his own mother.
a creapy, awful, disturbing, perpelexing character then we have ever seen or heard of in the history of mankind.
#2 you are first atheist to go from atheism to christianity. usually christians do the vice versa when you debate or dispute against them.
what is the big bang you just have a vague understanding of it not only quran mentioned the big bang but also well explained it.
I dare you to watch this video the whole 10 mins as your direct answer to your question.
I'm sorry, but the Koran does NOT describe the big bang. It uses metaphorical language that only now with our knowledge of the big bang enables us to read science into metaphor.
If you hate Western Culture so much why do you live in America?
the reasons i hate the western culture are as follows
you must be currupted to love giving birth to illigitimate children.
you must be sick to love the abortion of 2000 children every single day within the western world
if muslims hate freedom we don't but we do when the freedom bought by murdering little children.
you must be sick to love to be one of the moms who come trying to find the fathered of her child from among 10 or even more she slept with.
you must be a very sick person to go on jerry to admit you've slept with your own brother or sister.
telling woman muslims take the freedom of their woman away but on the other hand american exploits their woman then it is a common knowledge that woman are nothing but whores.
that's absolutely discusting to me.
this is not a culture it is instead a curroption. desease crisis
and the foregoing statements were not intended to connote hate towards people.
reason i live in america is because theres war, hunger, calamities, and every other kinds of catastrophes in my country.
so who is corrupting the world watch the video below you will know who.
some currupted sick devil people nourish themselves with the pain of others & I have to say that isn't fair.
you must be currupted to love giving birth to illigitimate children.
If a child has a loving parent then that parent loving giving birth to that child is not wrong.
you must be sick to love the abortion of 2000 children every single day within the western world
No body loves abortion, it is something that has to happen sometimes as it is for the best, I agree that it is too easy to get one though in countries where it is legal, where I live abortion is still illegal.
if muslims hate freedom we don't but we do when the freedom bought by murdering little children.
No freedom is bought by murdering children, where do you get this idea from.
you must be sick to love to be one of the moms who come trying to find the fathered of her child from among 10 or even more she slept with.
I am a man this does not affect me, I do however think that you are generalizing western women, my wife, my sister, my mother, my female friends that have children all live with and know the fathers of their children.
you must be a very sick person to go on jerry to admit you've slept with your own brother or sister.
The people on Jerry Springer are actors numbnuts.
telling woman muslims take the freedom of their woman away but on the other hand american exploits their woman then it is a common knowledge that woman are nothing but whores.
Islam does take away the freedoms of women to dispute this is blind, why do you think that America is the only country in the western world? To say that western women are nothing but whores is to try and insult all the women that I know, and they are not whores.
reason i live in america is because theres war, hunger, calamities, and every other kinds of catastrophes in my country.
So you think it is OK to bask in western freedom, if you hate it so much why don't you go back and fight the cause, you are a hypocrite.
so who is corrupting the world watch the video below you will know who.
some currupted sick devil people nourish themselves with the pain of others & I have to say that isn't fair.
There is no doubt in my mind that there is corruption and unfairness in the way some western establishments treat other more developing nations.
You are generalizing, you are labeling all people the same because they disagree with your views, you are truly the one blind to truth if you think that Islamic countries do not carry out atrocities of their own, what about suicide bomber training camps for children?
this is the reason jews pharissees plotted to crusy jesus because he was exposing the truth of god to people but the pharissees didn't like that idea.
thus they have spread false rumors that jesus is calling himself the son of god.
but today they are spreading misleading rumors against khalid yasin to slander him on the internet why because he is exposing the truth of the westerners and islam. multiple are accepting after each and every one of his speach.
in this world there are good and devil people the devils will never like anything about GOD and they do anything to destroy the massage of GOD.
BUT GOD said
when truth comes to existance falsehood and fiction vanishes sincerely fallacies and deceits are bound to perish and vanish.
this is the reason jews pharissees plotted to crusify jesus because he was exposing the truth of god to people but the pharissees didn't like that idea.
thus they have spread false rumors that jesus is calling himself the son of god.
but today they are spreading misleading rumors against khalid yasin to slander him on the internet why because he is exposing the truth of the westerners and islam. multiple are accepting islam after each and every one of his speach.
in this world there are good and devil people the devils will never like anything about GOD and they'll do anything to destroy the massage of GOD.
BUT GOD said
when truth comes to existance falsehood and fiction vanishes sincerely fallacies and deceits are bound to perish and vanish.