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capatialism is not a form of g who uses that terminology
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capitalism is not a form of government

capatialism is not a form of g

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who uses that terminology

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I think this is pretty obvious. Capitalism deals with the means of production in the private sector, which by definition makes it separate from the state. It's an economic system, not a political one.

Side: capatialism is not a form of g

Capitalism, Socialism and every variation of them are NOT forms of government, they are ways in which the economy is handled and how little and how much interference and regulations it will have.

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Capitalism is definitely NOT a form of government, as it is an economic system of how to handle the private sector, as the first argument states. It certainly can have a powerful influence on the government, but no capitalism is not a form of government.

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casper3912(1581) Disputed
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Capitalism is economic liberalism, in a capitalist society the material conditions promote the overall philosophy of liberalism, in one of its forms or another, likely resulting in a liberal government, or in a hybrid of classical liberal and classical conservative government in which case religion is likly important.

Capitalism also requires a government which will hold valid its contracts. If you read the classical liberals, you'll read a lot on government and what it can/should or can't/shouldn't do. After all, Adam Smiths "invisible hand" is more a prescription for government than the economy.

The government and economy are inseparable considerations, to properly think of one, we must think of the other.

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logicsoup(39) Disputed
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Well you are breaking it down an awful a lot.

I agree that government and economy are intrinsic to each other, but we aren't debating how interconnected which one or the other is. Im just trying to keep it simple, and answer the question. Capitalism is not a form of government (Although as stated by you, it plays an extremely important role in determining the government).

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A Capitalist government would only protect your life and property.

However, there is so many aspects of government that doesn't have to do with Capitalism that to say that Capitalism is a form of government is to ignore what Capitalism is.

Capitalism is merely the statement that individuals have a fundamental right to life and property. However, many free market capitalists are against taxes, while others aren't.

This is where Federalism comes in. Federalism (as designed by the Constitution) allows for taxation at a State level while enforcing the rights to life and property.

Side: capatialism is not a form of g

Economics and politics are inseparable. It is only an abstraction which makes us think them so.

You will find capitalism and government to have much in common. For example consider a large corporation, it outsources its work and sends it to subsides, much the same as a federal system, where as a smaller company is similar to a unitary system. Both depends in one way or another on coercion, one taxes under threat of force, the other gathers labor under threat of starvation and poverty, etc. A corporation sets up laws enforced with termination, fines, and so on, and a go government sets up laws with the same enforcement.

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ThePyg(6738) Disputed
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For example consider a large corporation

Free market capitalism would not have corporations. Corporations are a legal entity that would not exist in a free market system.

the other gathers labor under threat of starvation and poverty

Businesses are not threatening people with starvation and poverty. Nature can do this, but many can avoid working for a business and also not starve. Either way, government is far more coercive than businesses in a free market.

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casper3912(1581) Disputed
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How would they not exist in a free market? Couldn't partners to a business sell their shares with or without official legal recognition as a corporation?

When we can or do produce more than enough to satisfy everyone's need but don't, we have a distribution problem. Our distribution system requires a little less than 1/3 of the common person's time or more to be spent doing something they really don't want to do in order to live or have opportunity, it is "do this or don't get what you need", and that is textbook coercion. Some, but not many may be able to avoid working for others but few can afford the capital or not be caught up in the division of labor.

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