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 did the holocaust as it is taught in schools happen? (10)

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did the holocaust as it is taught in schools happen?

i would like to have a conversation between some people who would probably consider me an evil hateful nazi and more fashy individuals about weather or not the holocaust was in fact a historical event or something used to demonise national socialism and the associated individuals. 
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I find the evidence compelling.

https://listverse.com/2017/01/10/10-facts-that-conclusively-prove-the-holocaust-really-happened/

And that wasn't even a hardcore scholarly source, yet through photos and rationale it is still completely persuasive.

It's very easy to believe there was a holocaust, and it's almost as easy to believe there are Nazi sympathizers out there claiming the whole thing was made up.

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As someone living in Germany I have visiting most of the concentration camps still standing. You will have to tell me which facts you disagree with.

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I went to some of them as well during my time living there. It was a long time ago but I remember seeing buildings, both still standing and markers from where they had been. Truly sobering.

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I've been to Auschwitz, and it was the most harrowing experience I've ever had. There were loads of photos of starving, ill people and piles of their clothes & hair. I can say without a shadow of doubt that the holocaust did

happen.

GenerationZ(7) Clarified
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what i am primarily asking is weather or not gas chambers where used to exterminate people the national socialists put in concentration camps, of course people can talk about anything they like as long as its relevant but that is going to be the primary discussion i imagine

WinstonC(1225) Clarified
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I've heard this claim before, does the distinction between death camps and work-to-death camps matter particularly much? It does appear that some people were gassed and/or experimented on, though many were simply starved or worked to death.

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Hello Nazi:

If my parents had MURDERED 6 MILLION people, I'd deny it too.. Now, go fuck yourself.

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Not as it is taught in schools, no. Especially not American schools.

The basic premise that it happened is correct of course, but it has been both politicised and mythologised. For example, while it was ethnic cleansing, it was not an actual attempt to wipe out Jews as some believe. Hitler had tens of thousands of Jews and partial Jews fighting for him in the German army.

What happened was deplorable, but no more or less deplorable than the countless other genocides which have happened, and many within our own lifetimes.

GenerationZ(7) Disputed
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so we agree it was not what we are taught it was, may i as we you view it as deplorable

GenerationZ(7) Clarified
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that being a nation defining itself by race and removing people who are not part of that group

Atrag(5666) Clarified
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Can you state your source for 10k? Were the vast majority half Jews? I know that sometimes Jews were declared not to be Jews if they were particularly useful.

xMathFanx(1722) Disputed
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@Nomenclature

Wtf is wrong with you?

There were all kinds of internal contradictions in Nazi ideology to application however that in no way means that the Holocaust wasn't every bit as bad as is typically taught (it was). The fact that there have been many other genocides/ethnic cleansing of similar (or greater) magnitude does not imply that the Holocaust wasn't as abominable as mainstream depicts, but rather we should be giving similar attention/awareness to other deep crimes as well

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