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12
legalize not to legalize
Debate Score:23
Arguments:16
Total Votes:25
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 legalize (7)
 
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illegal immigrants, to legalize? or not to legalize? why?

Every year many immgrants find a way into the US illegally. It's currently a very touchy subject on wether they should get an opportunity to succeed, what are your thoughts on the subject?

 

EDUCATED DEBATE (no ignarance or racism)

legalize

Side Score: 11
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not to legalize

Side Score: 12
1 point

Their social service is one little box of macaroni and crackers given once a month. I lived there for 4 yrs dodging grenades and bullets. Yeah I'm EDUCATED and EXPERIENCED on the subject of Mexico and ILLEGALS. They cannot use our social services! Buit it's bull that I as a NATIVE AMERICAN decendent of Crazy horse, my grandfather was a judge, I have an ancestor that fought in EVERY SINGLE U.S. WAR, and My other grandfather earned a purple heart in WW2 and I have to go to Mexico to dodge grenades and bullets and be extorted by mafia and police officers because I'm American! I have to live in fear that we will be taken at any given moment to be tortured, dipped in a barrel of acid, or be beheaded because my husband at age 15 was a Mexican soldier, and the mafia doesn't look kindly on that nor are they merciful. But I am not allowed to have MY HUSBAND of 8 yrs and the FATHER OF MY # CHILDREN live here in the U.S. because he fled from Mexico to get here to save his own life! This is what most "illegals" face. This country murders my ancestors, My great great grandmother escapes the trail of tears, and my children have to chose between being fatherless or dodging grenades and bullets... !!!! Colombus was the first Illegal Alien! I guess I'll just do what he did stick a flag in the ground make up whatever name I want and claim this land for myself and for whoever I want to benefit. haha look at the insanity of what we call legal! If I did that I would be insane to think that is legit! If we can have Colombus day in this country then we can make it possible for the brothers of us natives to be here.

254 days ago | Side: legalize
3 points

Ship 'em back... they're illegal... is that educated enough?

307 days ago | Side: not to legalize
Jdeleon(14) Disputed
1 point

yeahhhh....that wasn't educational. at all. nice try not be an idiot though.

306 days ago | Side: legalize
Hellno(9696) Disputed
1 point

Well, it's the top argument so what are ya going to do about it! ;)

306 days ago | Side: not to legalize

Alright I know it says no sarcasm, but it helps get the point across.

Lets say 12 million Americans illegally went to Mexico, they started using social services they didn't pay taxes on and demanding more, they start demanding that the 4th of July and other American holidays be celebrated in Mexico, they start demanding that the Mexicans learn English, they took all the jobs Mexicans didn't want to do and then anyone who was against people coming into Mexico illegally was labeled a racist... Can you see how this a is a problem?

307 days ago | Side: not to legalize
Jdeleon(14) Disputed
2 points

alright, what you're doing is profiling ALL illegal immirgrants as mexicans. Educate yourself, you'd realize that illegal immigrants come from ALL over the world (Yeah, including canada). There are many illegal immigrants who DO pay taxes, and don't get a single cent on tax rebates. US citizen shouldn't just learn spanish but many other languages because if you didn't know, this country happens to run on diversity. Don't generalize all illegal immigrants. There are many hard working immigrants who want an opportunity for success and they have been and are willing to continue paying taxes. Finally, I do understand your point of view. but you must educate yourself more on the subject to understand the difference between some illegal immigrants.

307 days ago | Side: legalize
1 point

alright, what you're doing is profiling ALL illegal immirgrants as mexicans.

No, I am using an example, obviously there are other illegal immigrants but when you say "illegal immigrants" most think of the biggest issue which is the border with Mexico.

Educate yourself, you'd realize that illegal immigrants come from ALL over the world (Yeah, including canada). There are many illegal immigrants who DO pay taxes, and don't get a single cent on tax rebates.

Yes I know this, I happen to know an illegal immigrant from the Ukraine who does pay taxes, but again, I am talking about the biggest issue, the Mexican border.

US citizen shouldn't just learn spanish but many other languages because if you didn't know, this country happens to run on diversity.

Yes, but when most immigrants came over to here they learned the language that was spoken here, they didn't say "listen up, the second wave of Italians has come over so start learning Italian." Our country doesn't run on people speaking different languages it runs on diveristy (as you said) but when someone can't speak the main language you don't just write it off as diversity.

There are many hard working immigrants who want an opportunity for success and they have been and are willing to continue paying taxes.

Yes I know this, but they should come in legally, obviously there are problems coming into the country (mainly for Europeans since JFK made it alot harder for them to come over) but that doesn't mean you can just waltz on in, countries have borders for a reason.

Finally, I do understand your point of view. but you must educate yourself more on the subject to understand the difference between some illegal immigrants.

I understand there is a difference between the different groups, however I didn't feel like typing out "Lets say 12 million Americans illegally went to Mexico, this percentage did this and then this percentage did this and then ect." you understand?

307 days ago | Side: not to legalize
Cherokeegirl(1) Clarified
1 point

Their social service is one little box of macaroni and crackers given once a month. I lived there for 4 yrs dodging grenades and bullets. Yeah I'm EDUCATED and EXPERIENCED on the subject of Mexico and ILLEGALS. They cannot use our social services! Buit it's bull that I as a NATIVE AMERICAN decendent of Crazy horse, my grandfather was a judge, I have an ancestor that fought in EVERY SINGLE U.S. WAR, and My other grandfather earned a purple heart in WW2 and I have to go to Mexico to dodge grenades and bullets and be extorted by mafia and police officers because I'm American! I have to live in fear that we will be taken at any given moment to be tortured, dipped in a barrel of acid, or be beheaded because my husband at age 15 was a Mexican soldier, and the mafia doesn't look kindly on that nor are they merciful. But I am not allowed to have MY HUSBAND of 8 yrs and the FATHER OF MY # CHILDREN live here in the U.S. because he fled from Mexico to get here to save his own life! This is what most "illegals" face. This country murders my ancestors, My great great grandmother escapes the trail of tears, and my children have to chose between being fatherless or dodging grenades and bullets... !!!! Colombus was the first Illegal Alien! I guess I'll just do what he did stick a flag in the ground make up whatever name I want and claim this land for myself and for whoever I want to benefit. haha look at the insanity of what we call legal! If I did that I would be insane to think that is legit! If we can have Colombus day in this country then we can make it possible for the brothers of us natives to be here.

254 days ago | Side: legalize
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