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Debate Score:9
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is it wrong to be a show off? high brow? or vain person? etc

My posiition is that only in a world where lack of talent, ignorance, and ugliness prevails, coupled with jealousy, is it a shame to be those things. Only then does it become an atrocity to appreciate talent, intelligence and beauty in oneself.

 

What are your thoughts? 

 

allan gilbert

Yes

Side Score: 5
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No

Side Score: 4

Obviously, everyone has some sense of pride, which is good and right. But to be a show off, to be vain, to look down on others? That's not right.

Side: yes
2 points

Honestly, I don't see being a show off, high brow, or vain person as looking down on others inasmuch as thinking highly of oneself. There are certainly those types that do look down on others, everyone is an individual. But I also think that at times a person with a large ego or a lot of pride for their above average talent, intelligence, or beauty is mistaken for being arrogant.

But why is it you think that it is 'not right' to look down on others? Is it because it's what we're told since childhood? Or because it's not nice? what is your reason?

Side: Yes
Uspwns101(444) Disputed
1 point

The reason is that God humbles the proud. Just not a smart possibility. Being proud in yourself is not right, being proud of other things is acceptable. By in yourself I mean Hubris sort of pride not just patting yourself on the back.

Side: yes

Everyone is human. That is not a crime. What's a crime is when you cause suffering. Being vain doesn't necessarily cause anyone harm.

Side: No

If that's their personal payoff for success, I don't have a problem with it. Someone invents a super battery, let's say, but they're the most up themselves person you'll ever meet. Whatever, so they won't have any friends, but they put the effort in, they deserve to think of themselves any way they want.

Side: No
1 point

Most people see it as wrong when other people are doing it to them. For the person being arrogant, It provides them a way of being very self-confident and gives them motivation to succeed. Though at the downside, it reduces your chances of getting along with people and having strong relationships. Morals are subjective. It's all perspective.

Side: No
1 point

About the downside you proposed: who, does is reduce your chances of getting along with and having strong relationships with, specifically? The talentless, stupid or ugly? Who would want to be friends with them anyway? Personally, I would want someone who is also talented, smart, and beautiful to have a friendship or meaningful relationship with.

I would suspect there would be a lot less people who are either too lazy or unwilling to better their lives if it was looked down on more and nobody wanted to be THEIR friends. I see some people in the population and I wonder how in the WORLD they are able to procreate?! And then I see who it is that’s with them and it all makes sense. I see that they’re just a couple of people who won't amount to anything and don't care to. A hindrance on the evolution of the species, a blight that is continually spreading, perpetrated by the false notion that “we’re all beautiful in our own way.” well let me be the first to say that there are some ugly ass mothertruckers out there. And the false notion that "everyones entitled to their own opinion," well there are some DUMB ass mothertruckers out there too.

“High Operator, hear my appeal, these things are not to be allowed to breed.”

Y’know, I can give in a lot about the ugly thing, beauty is in the eyes of the beerholder. But as for jobless, talentless, OBESE, ignorant, cancers on society… THAT is shameful. And anyone willing to put them in their place by excelling and having the courage to stand tall about it, I thank and applaud.

Side: No