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METAL RAP
Debate Score:97
Arguments:46
Total Votes:118
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is metal or rap better ?

92 percent kids turn to rap . only 8 percent of kids turn to metal

METAL

Side Score: 77
VS.

RAP

Side Score: 20

Metal. All the way. Not screamo, but metal and hard rock. Absolutely.

Side: metal
4 points

Come on dude Scream metal is fucking cool I have heaps CD's like Dimmu borgir

Immortal. and others

Side: metal
3 points

Nooo, I can't stand it! It's terrible!

The minimum length for an argument is 50 characters. The purpose of this restriction is to cut down on the amount of dumb jokes, so we can keep the quality of debate and discourse as high as possible.

Side: metal

IN SORTI DIABOLI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: metal
2 points

metal is definetly better than rap because now and days rao has become the worse. Old school rap is pretty awesome such as Easy E, Tupac, Bone Thugs And Harmony and just back than artist, but these artist such as Drake, Lil Wayne, and Soulja Boy has ruined the rap culture. And metal has ben around longer than rap.

Side: METAL
5 points

I really prefer neither . But I dislike rap more . It's just stupid and pointless .

Side: metal
4 points

Metal has been around since the 60's and it has been around this long for a reason. Playing instruments, singing is true artistic talent. Rap rips off music from real talented groups and change the lyrics to meet their needs. Rap also has a bad "rap" for promoting gang violence and making the law sound like the enemy. Look at movies today, when gangs are doing something or even shown, rap music is played. All in all, rap stars are poets gone mad.

Side: metal
4 points

92% of kids turn to rap because they can't handle metal's awesomeness! \m/>.<\m/

Side: metal
3 points

metal and sreamo . if a song is all about getting laid is it worth listening to . no its not . rap sucks metal lives forever

Side: metal

If I must choose between the two than it's metal all the way with the exception of head-banging metal. THAT gives me a frigging headache for sure. To me metal is a viable genre where rap, no matter what they tell us, is certainly not. Here and there comes a song I like with a bit of rap in it and I don't mind that but all Rap...no way! In any case, like Nichole, I prefer Classic Rock rather than these two we're choosing from.

Side: metal
3 points

Metal, Rock, Hard Rock. All countless times better than rap which is mainly just recycled beats and meaningless lyrics.

Side: metal
3 points

rap have no talents, rapping is not impressive, not like growling/screaming.

they use drum machine, metal uses impressive double bass drum.

rap themes are often violent, about money, woman, sex, drugs, etc.

So METAL ROCKS!!!, rap sucks bigtime.

Side: metal

Metal is real music with real instruments with meaning lyrics until rap is made all on the computer. Rap isn't what it was in the 80's when it meant something of real life struggle.

Side: metal
DaWolfman(3321) Disputed
0 points

meaning lyrics

I am going to assume you meant "with meaning in the lyrics"

To say that rappers don't have meaning in their lyrics is absurd. When you take the O.G.s of rap they are truly feeling what they rap about, whereas there are some rappers i.e. Soulja Boy whom posses no true skill and also lacks a basic understanding of the English Language.

There are definitely rappers that deserve plethoras of kudos to their ingenuity with the English Language. Rappers such as: Gangstarr, AZ, Lupe Fiasco, Nas, Fabolous and the list goes on...

Rap isn't what it was in the 80's

Yes it is, if not better.

Listening to your local radio station isn't going to let you delve into the true world of rap, that will take you as far as iTunes ( current ) top 100 will. You have to go underground for the good stuff.

something of real life struggle.

So what the rappers that grow up in the worst neighbor hoods, have no money, and are constantly fought and abused don't count due to making it big? So as soon as they land that record deal and move out of the slum they all of a sudden don't fit into the category of rapping about real life struggles?

Side: RAP
3 points

Metal FTW

Rap- it's a piece of rubbish, a bunch of lame lyrics with out a proper tune.

But metal is another case. It just keeps you energized with their awesome guitar chords and their lyrics arent'e all soft like pop or rap or some other crap.

Side: metal
2 points

Effing neither. Most metal music sounds the same and makes you want to kill yourself at some point. Listen to that stuff in concert; and you'll feel lucky you still have functioning eardrums as well as a brain that hasn't exploded in your own damn head. (I'm 80% deaf and still think metal is loud as shit).

Rap music is somewhat toleratable if you actually give a crap about lyrics and if it they're not talking about raping someone and being proud of it or some dumb shit. But I don't prefer it because I don't care for lyrics. The only rapper I've ever been able to tolerate is Eminem, and it was mostly because he had good background beats and rhythm to go with his rapping, and his rapping was usually funny. He stood out in a better way.

Either way, they both suck. I prefer classic rock.

Side: Neither
hollowskull(1) Clarified
2 points

You have obviously not heard any REAL metal. Were you listening to Asking Alexandria? Suicide Silence? If you listen to bands like Metallica, Megadeth, Iron Maiden, Dream Theater, etc., you would not think the way you do now. Maybe you still wouldn't like it, but you would have different thoughts.

Side: METAL
2 points

OBIOUSLY METAL TO SCREAM AND MAKE IT SOUND HARMONIC THATS TALENT TO RHYME SUNNY WITH HUNNY OR POOP WITH HOOP THATS NOT TALENT ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN CELL COULD DO THAT

Side: metal
2 points

I dont like metal that much, but rap is pointless all they refer to is

1. sex

2.drugs

3.gangs

all they do is rhyme words to a beat that you hear in other songs.Even my 3 year old cousin can do that.

I rather listen to screaming voices, and awesome guitar chords, and awesome beats that are unique.Than listening to rap.

Side: metal
2 points

Metal has instrumental value and it takes more talent to scream in a low voice and say words fast than it is to talk fast. metal also has amazing guitar solos

Side: metal
2 points

Metal, because it borrows from many genres and is not just screaming as many people think. Rap, if you forget about the mainstream crap of today, can have some very good lyrics and songwriting, but is somewhat limited by the form in which you must express it, while in metal artists have more freedom in the delivery of their sound (basically all rap songs are going to have something in common while metal songs can be more varied: death, within temptation and queensr├┐che are all metal but they don't sound alike at all)

Side: metal
2 points

all metal except black metal, that's wrong rap you dont have to have skill you just have to rhyme about girls money and thing you dont have

Side: metal
2 points

Metal, Heavy Metal, Hard Rock, ect is a very rebellious type of music much better then rap, why you ask? Metal music has more opportunitiesto join in the music world because their is the Guitar, Bass, Vocals, and drums. Rap is just waving you hand in a "W" or or "Y" pattern, ryhming words that never change, wearing clothes that look to heavy to carry (that the reason why their asses are showing), and or course Sex, drugs, rapeing, whores, women wearing tiny clothes that get men to horny to resist having sex with them and then the teenage girl gets pregent or has some kind of nasty disease. I don't see that in Metal music listeners. We just know what to say about the world and who curropted it is and we are making a statement and screaming at the higher class people who don't understand who the little man is suffering. So its offical rap and Hip Hop so die out because of these reasons. support Metal music please thank you.

P.S. Slipknot, Pantera, 1980's Metallica, Ozzy Osbourn, Anthrax, Megadeth, Slayer, Motorhead, Iron Madien, Black Sabbath, Jimi Hendrix, AC/DC, Van Helen, and Pantera(sorry I had to say that again) Are the Greatest Bands in the whole Universe long live these Greatest Bands!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: metal
1 point

Slipknot, Ozzy, Iron Maiden, Jimi Hendrix, Van Halen, Pantera, Motorhead, Motley Crue, Poison, Ratt, Cannibal Corpse, Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax, Slayer, and Alice Cooper are better than rap singers, I support metal music, I listen to it every day and i never turn it down, Long Live Rock n Roll music.

Side: METAL
2 points

Metal!! Rap is not even music! When I feel angry or sad I put some Metallica or Guns N' Roses on my iPod and feel better! Fuck hip hop I'm a rock/metal lover since the day I was born!

Side: METAL
1 point

Yeah, Metal and rock music has been with me since I was in Elementary School in 5th grade, and I been listening to it even since, Hip hop and rap is gonna die, and Rock music will be back on top and MTV will belong to metal and rock again, and you rappers won't be having MTV back anymore, it's rock and metal's now.

Side: METAL
2 points

There is some good rap, mostly back when it first came out, but now it all sounds the same with all that auto-tune and the same verses and it's all about the same things. I feel a connection to metal and it usually isn't inappropriate as rap.

Side: METAL
2 points

Don't even try to say metal is just screaming because to be very blatantly obvious it is isn't just like how not all of the stereotypes toward rap are true. But metal is AWESOME.

Side: METAL
1 point

metal is better than rap, because metal has been out way before rap has, you can't even understand what the rappers say, because they are rhyming a bunch of junk, i never liked rap in the first place, rap is a big disgrace to music.

Side: METAL

Metal! Rap is just pointless. Rap is mostly about sex, drugs or gangs. At least Metal has lyrics with meanings.

Side: METAL
1 point

Metal is better because it more diverse every sub genre is different than the other. Metal talks about everything and the instruments are energetic. Metal is about being different and yourself it teaches individuality. Metalheads are family we all stick together like if that person was my brother or sister. the skill it takes is unbelievable the vocals and instruments and it BADASS.

Side: METAL
0 points

I choose neither because, Metal is way to loud for my taste personally, and rap sets a bad example, talking about rape and drugs and killing people. just not my type of music.

Side: Neither
0 points

It depends on what you define metal as...

I personally prefer to listen to 'extreme metal,' meaning death, black, thrash, doom and speed (I don't like this type) metal. They all require just a tad more skill than rap requires.'

Here's a quick wikipedia summary of death metal: 'It typically employs heavily distorted and low-tuned guitars, played with techniques such as palm muting and tremolo picking, deep growling vocals, aggressive, powerful drumming featuring double kick and blast beat techniques, minor keys or atonality, abrupt tempo, key, and time signature changes and chromatic chord progressions.'

Now. let's look at rapping: 'Rapping is a musical form of vocal delivery that incorporates "rhyme, rhythmic speech, and street vernacular", which is performed or chanted in a variety of ways, usually over a backbeat or musical accompaniment.'

From just this, we can see the difference in skill required on average for each of these different genres. Is everyone the same in skill? No, there are talented artists like Qvkata DLG, Keranov and Eminem in the rapper field. Then, they're are plenty of skillful groups in the metal field... Whourkr, Meshuggah, Cattle Decapitation, Slugdge, Nile (George Kollias is legendary!). Then, there are awful artists like 6ix9ine and icejjfish, and countless bands that I do not listen to.

The beats for rap are normally produced electronically, and remain very consistant throughout the song. Metal is normally produced with real electronics, but sometimes with fake drumkits. There are also 4 or 5 musicians in the bands. A common layout is one vocalist, two guitarists, one bassist and one drummer. Sometimes, the vocalist is also a guitarist. Metal can be very progressive, or it can be technical, or it can be repetitive, or it can be a combination of these things along with others not mentioned. Even the more repetitive bands can be skilled, like Meshuggah with it's extremely odd time signatures put back into 4/4.

There is also the matter of lyrical content. Generally, I believe rap talks mainly about topics like women, drugs, and gang-related actions. Metal covers a wide range of subjects such as the occult, politics, hatred, violence, society, aliens, slugs (I'm looking at you, slugdge), gibberish, death, and more.

While many may write away metal's vocals as just screaming, growling, etc, only a portion of metal does this. Many subgenres like thrash metal and progressive metal mainly use clean vocals. Even if you cannot understand the lyrics, nothing is stopping you from going on Encyclopaedia Metallum or Dark Lyrics and seeing the important things they are singing about.

While metal vs rap is mainly a personal matter, I believe that one can objectively find metal to be better as I have shown through my several arguments.

Side: METAL
Canibus(77) Disputed
1 point

@Quake3FTW

You are completely objectively wrong. Rap is the most lyrically advanced form of music because it is structurally designed to place emphasis on the lyrics. Like with all modern music, the mainstream stuff is usually stupid and therefor your statement about the subject matter of rap is based on looking at only the worst of rap which happens to be the most popular. Also comparing rap to metal is like comparing painting to poetry because metal is about the sound and the atmosphere and rap is about rhythmatic poetry. You can technically rap about anything so your assessment of rap is inherently flawed. Here are some raps that will change your mind:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeE3-rOG7i4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoT3PzHJASU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWMemN1gT0g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAPptDx6bys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuK7uB2ONdc

Side: RAP
2 points

Metal sucks. Too much screaming.

Industrial ftw~

Rap is GREAT when you get a great artist performing rap. The problem is, it's also one of the easiest forms of music to get into because all you have to do is rhyme and look 'cool'. So it's flooded with shit artists who want a piece of the pie.

Side: RAP
kentherocgod(4) Clarified
1 point

Rap music is just stupid, completely worthless, why do you even listen to that trashy junk, i love industrial, punk, metalcore, horror punk, hardcore rock, death metal, doom metal, gothic rock, black metal, nu metal, thrash metal, and all other metal or rock music, metal is the best music in the world.

Side: METAL
1 point

RAP is better in terms of music. however many rappers had it easy in their life.

Side: RAP
benderbot200(1) Disputed
1 point

Rap isn't really music, it is just taking someone else's music and sampling it. They don't even sing they talk in rhyme to the beat of the music they stole. Metal on the other hand there is instrument playing and singing so therefore metal is more musical.

Side: metal
1 point

Well, since i don't care about the score on either side, i'll post here since the other side is filled up.

I like both. Don't see the big deal between which is better... why does it matter?

I prefer metal, but that's only the hard stuff (ranging from System of a Down which is alternative/nu metal to Animosity which is Technical Deathcore). This is mainly because Extreme Metal sub genres make me more excited and happy. It's all about energy. Also why i like Techno/Industrial.

Rap is fun too, and I like to freestyle on occasion. I even try to combine Death Metal and Rap in my own writing.

Side: RAP
1 point

Rap has its own follwers, either u love it or hate it, same goes for metal, THIS ARGUMENT IS RETARDED!!!!

Side: RAP
kentherocgod(4) Disputed
1 point

no, metal is better than your trashy rap music, because there's more meaning in metal than rap, i don't even understand why you listen to that junk.

Side: METAL
1 point

Hollywood Undead,

Rapcore

The shit.

Side: RAP

I prefer Rap music because the lyrics tell it the way it is.

Side: RAP
0 points

ok!!..

iam'a rapper ma self and i support neither!!..

rap has lyrics that can be verry verry irritatin!! like drugs sex and it neva respects da women!!...any rap song u take calls women as whores!!..rap also needs no great talent!!..u just need to sit, rhyme, and flow!..but at da same tym its tough as well!!..there are some really meaningful lyrical songs in rap too!!..like eminems beautiful to name one!!...rap is gone now! taken ova by some faggot gangstars who jus wanna hav sex and blow money on stupid stuff!..eminem's prolly da only rapper alive who raps like a poet!...so overall rap's pretty fuc*ed up too!!

metal!..metal has tons and tons of bands and many geners!!..

among all,..i think only gothic metal makes sense!!..

jus for som maggots who think that rap promotes violence..are completely wrong!!..all anti christ, anti goodwill and drugs sex and even homosexuality is a main theme for many bands(includes rock!)...metalheads hate rappers coz of oly one reason!..they think that rappers are writin dumb lyrics which makes em earn more money than metal bands...

both da geners promote violence..

just if u wanna learn a lesson of da impacts of violence of rap download da movie " A FAMILY UNDERGROUND"..

and for metal...just download any heavy metal music video!!

both da geners are fucked up badly... and sadly metal has soo many hypocrites and they're influencin ppl in da wrong way!!

rappers rap on what they like(sex, money, etc)..

but metal bands sing against da lord..just for publicity!!

all metalheads need to understand that all this antichrist, satanic, black etc etc..are jus to sell albums!!

thay hav to b different in order to sell!!da music world is highly competitive!!

so overall speakin i dont support either...but since i like gothic metal..my sides are towards metal slightly..

hail shady!

Side: Neither
kentherocgod(4) Clarified
1 point

Well, i'm a headbanger, so like metal and rock music, and i think metal is better than rap, because rap is nothing but a big disgrace to music, i don't what they are even rapping to, they all sound the same, metal has different sounds, so metal is the best music in the whole world.

Side: METAL
kentherocgod(4) Disputed
1 point

metal is better rap music because there is more meaning to it than rap, rap talks about racism, cop killing, sex, drugs, and dumb crap, rap is just stupid, completely stupid, it's worthless like a piece of trash, put a rap disc in a dead carcass and burn it with fire.

Side: METAL