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privacy vs transparency as a society: which is better

My argument in favor of privacy is that a society that decides to try and achieve full transparency will fail and collapse in the process. Steps: 1. maximal possible surveillance becomes possible due to technological advances 2. the government implements surveillance on citizens 3. the government makes an exception to surveillance to allow themselves privacy 4. it becomes illegal to use technology to try and achieve privacy 5. only criminals have privacy, due to the fact that they are the only ones who can break the law in order to get it 6. equal privacy becomes unenforceable (preventing us from having a truly transparent society) 7. more people who are mentally ill but innocent go to jail, simply because the cops watching the surveillance cameras don't know enough psychology to tell the difference between a mentally ill guy bragging about killing people as part of a conversational point with his friend even though both the mentally ill people know for a fact that this is a myth 8. Any young guy who plays shooters who talks about killing people will be arrested because they didn't say "in the video I killed this guy" instead of "I killed this guy" every time, since the cops prefer that but no one is willing to say that interchangeably every time they are talking about a kill in xbox live and they will constantly forget 9. criminals will know when an innocent autistic is taking adderall and will know to steal it 10. therapy sessions will become pointless and people with depression will not be able to share things that are just straight up embarrassing confidentially 11. an attempt to enforce complete transparency ends up only working on law abiding citizens, but within that it doesn't discriminate against people who need privacy 12. criminals can black mail people by using their own issues against them at the workplace, in public, or even in court, despite the fact that the people being blackmailed are innocent 13. fighting back against the government will become impossible because the government will be able to assassinate any whistleblower, journalist, or activist that it wants due to knowing everyone's actions simply because by the time any movement to fight back gets enough people, all of those people will be dead before they can do anything 14. two teared society: government and/or criminal on one tear and normal person on another tear 15. crime goes up because people who aren't criminals but who have any form of mental issue but who aren't criminals will be forced to become criminals. Also, it will go up because in order to keep themselves, their family, and their friends safe, normal people will be forced to break the law to try and gain anonymity 16. society doesn't function properly because everyone's a felon 17. there is a war between society and the government, even though so many people in society didn't initially believe mass surveillance would cause all of this horrible shit to happen 18. the government beats society most likely because of the information they have on everyone which becomes very difficult to remove in order to fight them (probably impossible so we can't take it away anyways) 19. whether or not the government wins, they'll be a large history of an increasing rate of murder because murderers who are willing to get privacy by breaking the law before all of the rest of us do will have had a higher success rate but they will not be caught due to a "transparent" society because they didn't give into the transparency 20. the only nice people with the ability to fight anyone will be grey hat hackers, who still count as criminals 21. even with grey hat hackers, society will either people totalitarian if the government has one, or it will become the wild west and essentially what anarchy isn't (but more like what people think it is) 22. society's ability to sustain itself will be gone 23. cyberpunk style societal collapse That's my hypothesis anyways. Do you agree? No? Why?

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Hello:

That was too long of a thing, so I didn't read it.. But, I vote for PRIVACY for the people, and TRANSPARENCY for the government..

excon

Side: privacy

I agree with you. That's what I think too. I think the government really needs to let us know what's going on. People should have privacy though, even celebrities.

Side: privacy
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