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right wingers get big boners when they see the poor starving in the streets

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right wingers get big boners when they see the poor starving in the streets

To be fair, the Libertarian Right-Wing thinks this is outrageous (that one would get arrested for sharing the products of their labor in the manner they please). However, Conservatives tend to think this is the right thing to do--interestingly, that is completely at odds with "Small Government"

Arrested for Feeding the Homeless in Orlando: Common Occurence
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NomencIature(17) Disputed
2 points

Conservatives tend to think this is the right thing to do--interestingly, that is completely at odds with "Small Government"

The fact that cuntservatives want a small government is the whole problem. They should want the biggest government possible, because that's what democracy means.The MAJORITY rule.

Side: Hate speech
NumberOne(422) Disputed
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The fact that cuntservatives want a small government is the whole problem. They should want the biggest government possible, because that's what democracy means.The MAJORITY rule.

Why don't you stop impersonating other members, you retarded Russian troll?

Side: True
1 point

Well we've concluded that you have the brains of a brainless box of sand...

A nation run by the people doesn't give corrupt governments more power....

Side: True
Amarel(5669) Disputed
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Democracy is not a fundamental value for conservatives. It is not something to be valued in and of itself.

Side: True
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I'm a Stalinesque liberal, & I sure could suck a dick right now. Yup. I sure could suck a big dick.

Side: True
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@ Daegonius;- In addition to the the post below I would add that if I was able to successfully defend myself against the hoods and cut throats of back street Belfast as a child and then, as a consequence being streetwise able to look after myself sufficiently to stave off the I.R.A. the U.D.A., as well as the U.V.F., I'm absolutely satisfied that the nigger doesn't exist who could get the better of me or find me in a vulnerable situation.

Some twenty five tears ago I had a 'run in' with a nigger outside Union Train Station in Chicago. I boarded the train, the nigger didn't.

Side: True
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Sure, I mean who doesnt? .

Side: True
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xMathFanx(1722) Clarified
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@Antrim

What are your thoughts concerning the need to have an address to get a job, and in order to have an address, one would already need a job & some down money?

I understand why apartments would want to ensure a steady income is coming in (thus the need to check for a job), however I don't know why McDonalds needs to know where one lives in order to come in and flip burgers, mop the floor, ect.? This would seem to be an unnecessary barrier to homeless people from getting a move on, would it not?

Side: True
Antrim(1287) Disputed
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Hi x

Having employed 130 people for over 30 years ( now retired, thank heavens) I can assure you that most employers would only recruit those with a permanent address and preferably from a stable background.

These basic requirements are to minimize the risk of someone, regardless of the nature of the job, ( and I wouldn't demean those who ''flip hamburgers'' as at least their out working for a living) running off with the day's takings or, what is more common, insidiously skimming the till until they're caught, eventually.

The questions I would ask as an employer is, why do these losers not have an address?

Why cannot they form a cooperative and pool whatever skills they have and go out and earn a regular income?

They could tend gardens, clean houses for the infirm and elderly, engage in government job creation schemes wash motor vehicles etc., etc.

Why don't they hire an accountant to keep their books which would provide evidence to any potential employer and/or landlord that they're trustworthy hardworking citizens.

A high % of these losers are illegal immigrants who never had an address in the United States or, as is more likely, daren't provide one.

These leeches are sucking the lifeblood out of the economy and feel it is their God given right to do so.

My opinion of the remaining indigenous spongers is that they are made up from a mixture of workshy,weak minded junkies and boozers who couldn't be relied upon to work conscientiously and honestly on a regular basis.

So, it's off to the fertilizer factory where their carcasses can be processed and made to be of some use.

Side: Hate speech

1)While vets starve in the streets, libs ignore them and wave in the illegals. How dare we think vets deserve welfare and food stamps more than foreign criminal intruders.

2)Conservatives give more to the poor while libs bitch about it and hold onto their wallets.

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NumberOne(422) Disputed
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While vets starve in the streets, libs ignore them and wave in the illegals

Hi bronto. Please bring the following article to Putin's immediate attention:-

5 Ways President Trump and Congressional Republicans Are Betraying Veterans

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/ poverty/reports/2017/09/26/439661/5-ways-president-trump-congressional-republicans-betraying-veterans/

You might need to change the narrative, Herr Comrade.

Side: True
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
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Number 2 we all know about how well the VA was run under the " Boy King" Obama. It was a complete disaster but you Progressives have what is referred to as "Short Memory Syndrome".

Veterans Affairs. At least 40 U.S. veterans died waiting for appointments at a Phoenix VA facility, many of whom had been on a secret waiting list—part of an effort to conceal that between 1,400 and 1,600 veterans were forced to wait months for appointments. A 2014 internal VA audit found “57,436 newly enrolled veterans facing a minimum 90-day wait for medical care; 63,869 veterans who enrolled over the past decade requesting an appointment that never happened.” Even Mr. Obama admitted, in a November 2016 press conference, that “it was scandalous what happened”—though minutes earlier he boasted that “we will—knock on wood—leave this administration without significant scandal.”

Side: Hate speech
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An ad hominem on Republican politicians is meaningless in a debate about "right wingers", which means us non politicians. I'm a right winger, a veteran, and don't "get hard" to see people starving. It's actually why I support the wall. If we weren't busy loading up on illegal immigrants, we could afford to easily "feed our poor".

Of course libs tell us everyone must be equal, which simply means everyone starves regardless of ambition or work ethic. But, despite being unable to defend it with logic, they still call you names if you think budgeting and controlling illegal immigration equals less starving legal Americans.

We believe that 100 fed people is better than 500 equally deprived people. Just imagine if all of the money spent on illegals was simply divided between legal Americans. We'd have a lot of fed legal Americans.

But libs prefer yapping on and on about the equal sharing of misery, imagining it as some fictional utopia because it makes them feel good to say it and daydream about it. The fact that it isn't reality doesn't matter. In their minds, in a country of 350 million people, there are invisible, nonexistent resources to feed 8 billion people on the planet. They can't dare say the blatant obvious, but I will.

If you live in a third world hellhole, are starving, and think life is a real bitch...quit having ten fucking kids asshole!

We have 1 or 2, maybe 3 kids. They have 13, and it's our fault that the 13 kids are poor and starving? Get the fuck out ta here. Oh and feed my daughter, my nephews, and my nieces while you're at it, or I'll call you an evil child hating imperialist. Oh, and don't you dare think I'm paying for it. Everyone is human, so feed my kids.

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NumberOne(422) Disputed
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Conservatives give more to the poor

Not only have I pointed out that this is a lie, but so have other posters.

If you are not here to shill for Russia bronto, then why are you repeating information which you know is false?

Please see:-

Since the publication of Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism it has become common for conservatives to say they give more to charity than liberals. Many, many conservatives have cited the book I just linked to for support.

However, that book is just wrong. A recent MIT study countered it finding:

"In this paper, we first show that conservatives and liberals are equally generous in their donation habits. This pattern holds at both the individual and state level, and contradicts the conventional wisdom that partisans differ in their generosity. Second, we show that while levels of giving are roughly equivalent, liberals are much more likely to donate to secular organizations, and conservatives are more likely to donate to religious causes, especially their own congregation."

http://www.gospelpolitics.com/debunking-the-conservatives-give-more-to-charity-myth.html

Side: True
7 points

Not only have I pointed out that this is a lie, but so have other posters

No. What you said is that "if you take out church giving, conservatives give no more", which is nonsensical because people, including myself, give to the church as a means to give to the poor.

Side: Hate speech
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
4 points

California Today: State’s Homeless Population Drives National Increase

It could hardly come as a surprise to anyone who travels around the state: the number of people who are homeless in California continues to rise at a steady clip. Every year, the federal Department of Housing and Urban Development releases a Point in Time count of the homeless population. This year that number reached nearly 554,000 — a 1 percent increase from last year, driven by the dramatic surge in West Coast cities.

More than one-quarter of the total homeless population nationwide lives in California, roughly 114,000. The vast majority are “unsheltered” — a more bureaucratic term to describe the thousands living on the streets, under freeways and tucked into grassy fields and parks in cities all around the state.

“It’s certainly a bigger increase than we would have expected,” said Ben Metcalf, the director of the state’s Department of Housing and Community Development. “There’s a tale of different countries here: We’re seeing a real significant increase and much of the rest of the country is not. We’re all doing the same things, but here the rent is too damn high. We’ve seen an incredible increase in the cost of housing.”

Number 2 why is the Progressive Nirvana that is California can't help the poor starving in the streets ?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/21/us/california-today-states-homeless-population-drives-national-increase.html

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NomberOne(28) Disputed
1 point

Your point about conservatives giving way more than us libs is well taken bronto. I feel bad that we cause starvation.

Side: Hate speech
4 points

ROFLOL, I always get a laugh when the hypocritical Left who supports even No Restriction abortions, judges and preaches about feeding the poor.

First of all, the Right supports safety nets for all people who can not support themselves. Show me some starving people that the Right does not want to feed.

Stop being a hypocrite and deceptive liar.

Side: Hate speech
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On a given day in 2013, more than 600,000 Americans were homeless.

In the U.S., about 195 of every 100,000 people were homeless in 2013. Colorado, with a rate of 193 per 100,000, is the closest to that average.

The worst in terms of homelessness is the District of Columbia with a rate of 1,133 per 100,000 people. Because D.C. is a metropolitan area, its count is far above states, which aren’t comparable in this scenario.

For example, New York City is at 768 per 100,000, a lower rate than D.C., but nearly 10 times the homeless population. For this data, it’s unfair to include D.C. as the “worst state” in terms of homelessness.

States with high and low homeless rates are all over the country. The highest rates of homelessness among states are in Hawaii (465 per 100,000), followed by New York (399) and California (367).

The lowest homeless counts per capita come in Mississippi (81 per 100,000), Indiana (94) and Kansas (94).

Do notice Steven Rich of the Washington Compost does his best to cover up the homeless rate in D.C. under "Boy King" Obama.

According to Steven Rich Hawaii , New York and California are not the metropolitan are that D.C. is.

Article written August 8,2014

Side: Hate speech

That's a baseless accusation and completely untrue. Cite your sources, bomb thrower.

Side: Hate speech
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That's a hateful thing to say. I am half conservative, and I don't get off on human suffering, or any sufferering, and maybe God wants us to stop playing party politics. Conservatives are right sometimes. Give people like FromWithin a chance.

Side: Hate speech
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I'm a moderate that could fit in either party if a moderate runs for office. I have some right wing beliefs and I disrespect your crud debate.

Side: Hate speech
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You present a false causality. Although it is true they have boners while people are starving it is not the starvation itself which causes the erection. It is the tax cuts and me first social policies which lead to both the starvations and the boners. "Ahhhhh, I get to keep more money... Boing. Hey, there's some poor people over there... Let's drive down a different street before I lose my boner."

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outlaw60(15368) Disputed
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/21/us/california-today-states-homeless-population-drives-national-increase.html

Diaper Boy is the Progressive Nirvana that is California failing the Party of Compassion ?

Side: True
FromWithin(8241) Disputed
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The site hypocrite spews his judgmental hypocrisy once more.

You support the testing for, and killing of Special Need's babies for merely being diverse, and you sit on a debate site judging the Right when it comes to wanting to keep more of our money from corrupt politicians who use it to buy votes?

In all my years, I have yet to see fake news showing us these starving children you deceptive liars keep talking about in America. If there are, then there is parental abuse!

NO ONE is denying starving children food! This is as big a lie as the tax cuts supposedly only helping the Rich. Are all you Left wing liars living in some fake world or what?

Are you missing the simple intellect to see your mindless hypocrisy, or are you just that big a phony?

Gee, I wonder why I ban such people as you.

Side: True
Daegonius(329) Disputed
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judgmental

At least I'm capable of judgment.

You support the testing for, and killing of Special Need's babies

Yep, fuck you.

keep more of our money from corrupt politicians who use it to buy votes?

Who said I even want a monetary system to begin with?

fake news showing us these starving children you deceptive liars keep talking about in America.

You don't believe there are starving children in america? You must have been raised with a silver spoon in your mouth. http://www.feedingamerica.org/hunger-in-america/child-hunger-facts.html?referrer=https://search.yahoo.com/

Are all you Left wing

No, not all of us, I happen to be outside of the political spectrum entirely.

Are you missing the simple intellect to see your mindless hypocrisy

Are you missing the simple intellect to see that I am non-partisan?

Side: Hate speech
Grenache(6053) Clarified
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The problem with talking about boners publicly is the people who can't get it up anymore just get all bitter and angry.

Side: True