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science vs mathematics.

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Mathematics is as Gauss put it “the Queen of sciences” I agree,to me there is no Science vs Mathematics to begin with .

Galileo Galilei (1564–1642) said, "The universe cannot be read until we have learned the language and become familiar with the characters in which it is written. It is written in mathematical language, and the letters are triangles, circles and other geometrical figures, without which means it is humanly impossible to comprehend a single word. Without these, one is wandering about in a dark labyrinth." Carl Friedrich Gauss (1777–1855) referred to mathematics as "the Queen of the Sciences". Benjamin Peirce (1809–1880) called mathematics "the science that draws necessary conclusions".

Nomoturtle(716) Disputed
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We are forced to make too many assumptions in mathematical models for me to believe that maths is the language the universe is written in, or at the very least, our version of maths as it is now. Yes, when used in appropriate ways maths can approximate reality via logic. However I do not think it is a perfect substitute for our reality at present.

Additionally, there are multiple mathematical approximations that can be appropriate for a single scenario. I think the existence of multiple solutions discredits all but one, or even all of them as a perfect representative. For example, energy is a useful concept on which some mathematical methods and solutions are based. However the concept of energy can be skipped entirely by instead applying conversion ratios for physical properties. So is energy a real property or an imagined tool? At least one of these methods should imply inaccurate information about the universe we live in.

Dermot(5453) Disputed
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What’s reality ? Your perception is your reality , where did I say it’s a perfect substitute for our reality , whatever that means ?

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Mathematics is as Gauss put it “the Queen of sciences” I agree,to me there is no Science vs Mathematics to begin with .

Maths isn't a science you pretentious idiot. Science makes conclusions based on empirical evidence. Maths makes conclusions based on abstract proofs.

You don't have the faintest idea what you're talking about, so shut up quoting people who, were they still alive, would share my opinion that you are a fucking idiot.

Dermot(5453) Disputed
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Maths isn't a science you pretentious idiot.

Oh do shut up Nom you stupid brute , do you ever get anything right ?

Science makes conclusions based on empirical evidence. Maths makes conclusions based on abstract proofs.

Mathematics is certainly a science in the broad sense of "systematic and formulated knowledge", but most people use "science" to refer only to the natural sciences.

Now that I’ve attempted to educate you yet again you may thank me

You don't have the faintest idea what you're talking about,

There’s that projection yet again where you accuse others of your genetic idiocy

so shut up quoting people who, were they still alive, would share my opinion that you are a fucking idiot.

🤔 Yet the same people agree with me rather than you once again proving the level of your retardation is worrying to say the least ......🤫 👋👋👋👋

I am alive because of science, neuroscience specifically...................................

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Mathematics is a science, to an extent, but in the realms of cutting edge mathematical hypotheses, maths isn't a completely proof based endeavour. It has abstractions, because human cognition has the capacity for abstraction and strictly speaking, maths is conceptual. The other sciences, on the other hand, deal in verifiable realities. I would say, because of that, mathematics might be the more creative of the two, but it is also the one of the two more prone to attempts at fallacious transplantation of its concepts onto the real world. Infinity, for example.

The best of both worlds is physics. For me it represents the pinnacle of the human quest for knowledge.

Math and science cannot be separated. The more you know science, the more you know that science needs math. To have something like science vs math would make no sense as the existence of the two depend on one another.

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without science people wouldn't have the cure to most diseases like measles and hepatitis which or prevents liver diseases. basically you would die in young age probably and possibly humanity would be in great disaster. not only that but without science their is no technology meaning no phones,cars and even television. also our history would be unknown. people think math is in science, False science uses math only in measuring the length of a cell in micrometers.

LoveU(348) Disputed
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The fact that science uses math also means math is in science but anyway you're in a good run