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I love my dog I give him love and anything he wants. I would not do anything to harm him. why can't you people just get that we all are not in it just for the sex. we do more with them then just that I take him for walks. I take him to the dog bench he loves playing in the water with is other dog friend. I do everything with him until I go to work. but after that it all about him.
Your rabid belief that animals are capable of consent makes so much more sense now. You have to believe that your dog is capable of and can convey informed consent to you, otherwise you cannot justify having intercourse with your dog. Wow.
please you will have all my sources by tomorrow so you should get ready. And my sources. I don't need sources. when I know about the stuff that I work on
I always have sources but they don't come from online that why I don't put links down. I get my sources from studying and working and talking to other people.
Poppycock. You claimed you had research and studies but you didn't; when repeatedly pressed you finally agreed to provide them; you then tried to find them and couldn't.
If you do in fact study then presumably you study something; if it is legitimate research then it has a citation whether it is online or not. Working is highly abstract, but if you mean to say that you have experience conducting controlled studies on the matter then perhaps you should actually advance your original argument that no one else has apparently published on ever. Talking to people is not evidence; just because someone says it does not make it correct
I really am done with you. There simply is no point. This isn't even entertaining any longer.
You just told me you could not have proof that you could share. I called you on it, and now you claim you forgot and then pulled this nonsense off the internet: a youtube video of a cat in heat which proves nothing, a rambling blog that does not appear to cite any actual research, and a disjointed forum of uniformed posts?
Truly done now. Expect no further responses from me.
If I cut my brain apart to get at equal level so there would be no taking advantage of. Then would you allow it or would you still come up with another lame excuse.
What are you even trying to say? If you are suggesting that you are more than twice as intelligent as me... well, that quite remains to be proven. The only person making poor excuses at argumentation is you.
No. Mooching your dog with special treatment doesn’t make anything better. You only do that stuff because you want him to feel safe around you. I’m sure your dog is feeling miserable right now. I don’t accept zoophiles. I don’t accept pedophiles. I don’t accept homosexuals.
I only accept non-zoophile male and female heterosexuals.
In other words, you use other peoples' lack of intellectual integrity to justify your own. Alternatively, you do not actually have evidence. In either case you have no basis to get uptight when people do not believe you if you cannot be bothered to cite your sources on a debate site. I am certainly not going to take your word alone on anything. I do not do that for anyone, as I am not wont to whore out my intellect to any idiot with a keyboard.
I am not sure what kind of sources are you asking for because something like this they don't give out on google. I may need two days to find online sources.
Sources that warrant any of the claims you have made, but in particular the ones above ("scientific study. shows that sex does not hurt a medium to large dog. I have a husky. And scientific study shows that they can consent.") Any other claims you have made throughout are exchanges are fair game as well.
I expect you will take whatever time you take, but in truth if you claim that a scientific study says something you ought to know to which study you are referring already.
dude I am not going to spell nice just because you can't read at second grade lvl loser please till me how am I sick or I will bann you for not debating
and if you read the term of zoophilia. smart one you would know that it says that it is abnormal liking to animals by sex. but it does not say it wrong so please tell me how is it wrong
dude if you fucking did not read what I said before I am not fucking taking my time to fucking spell nice for you. fucking under stand it or your ass should go back to school
It is not normal. You need a therapist. You need lots of help. Your dog needs lots of help. The dog doesn’t know what you’re doing to him. That’s probably why he doesn’t seem reject your advances.
Why do you even share your sex life with the world? It’s not something to be proud of!😠
ok will my friend leaves socks in his room and when the dog wants sex he would get the socks out of his room and bring it to him. It a little crazy but hey he likes it and the dog likes it. There is your consent.
That's called training. You could make small children do that too, but that doesn't mean pedophilia is legal. Your dog wants to please you, and will do things that it doesn't want to do, in order to do so. Without being able to give explicit, UNCOACHED consent, in a language that both participants speak, it is not legal. In addition, dogs have the mentality of a human child, generally. They cannot consent.
I did not train my dog to do that. he did it on his own. I put socks on him when we do it. he must have learned that socks means sex. And really you do not think dogs want sex. lol that answer is a joke LOL.
If I cut my brain apart to get at equal level so there would be no taking advantage of. Then would you allow it or would you still come up with another lame excuse.
if you lower your own intelligence level, (or based on your grammar, your intelligence level now...), that would just imply that you also are not comprehending the situation, the ethics, and the consequences to the point where you are able to consent.
Do you think that humans always speak when they want to fuck? I'm sure that there have been some instances where you have initiated sex with only using eye contact and/or physical gestures. If not, then well...it happens!
What did you like bann my messages. Your guys need to fall in a hole. It should be illegal. This is wrong. You guys should never own a pet or a animal.
Are any of you guys who vote legal being serious!? No, just no, i mean whats next?! Should it be legal to have sex with a horse? A llama? A pig? Its wrong pure and simple, end of.
I agree with your standpoint, but "it's just wrong" is not valid logic to be used in a debate. The opposing side could just as easily say "it's alright, end of it".
Its wrong because sex is supposed to be between the same species. Dogs cannot possibly give consent either, they cannot speak to give it and cannot convey to through action. Its even likely that a dog doesn't even know what consent is. In a way its like paedophilia, how can a child consent or if it says it does its too young to know what consent even means (not in the definition sense), the same applies to a dog in a way but the fact its a different species makes it even worse. Im going to have to apply a utilitarian point in that if its ok for once person to do it then its ok for all people to do it, that certainly isnt the case for paedophilia or rape so then its not ok for sex with dogs either.
Who said sex was supposed be with the same species. Dogs can consent in there language but they also learn are language. dogs are smarter then you think. So what if you don't want to have sex with a dog that you. Also alot of people are just not in it for sex they want love. Dogs can show they want it though there actions. I just can't believe how many people don't know that they can. And please leave god out of this. I seen other species have sex with other species in the wild.
Dogs cannot consent because their mental age is around 2-5. How many 2-5 year-old humans do you know who consent to sex? Not many i bet, if any at all. Im an atheist so any God arguments are out of the question for me. Love and sex are very different. To express love you do not need to have sex, i think sex is self-explanatory. What you are proposing is that it should be legal to have sex with not only a different species that has no contemplation of consent let alone the ability to give it, but a species that cannot even distinguish between pleasure and love, they respect authority; their primal desire for pleasure is often mistaken for love. A dog is not on par with human sentience therefore they cannot experience love like we do and as a concept or feeling of love, a dog cannot feel that at all. Sure they feel pain and suffering, but only in the physical sense. A dogs "mental" pain can be attributed to classical conditioning through expectation of pain and no doubt maintained through operant conditioning. Might i ask what species you have seen having sex with other species? And as for a dog learning our language, they dont learn it they attribute the sound of the word(s) being spoken to a action or outcome, that is why its called training not educating.
There is no point in arguing with you on this. You are so off on everything. Dogs can consent they don't have a mind of a child. They have a mind of a dog not a child. Rabbits have sex with cats. Dogs and tigers have sex. And there is alot of other species that have sex with other species. please don't answer back everything you say is wrong.
For one i did not say a dog has a child's mind i said they had the mentality of a 2-5 year-olds. And no, i am not wrong. I will make this as my last statement as you are way to moronic to argue rationally. You are taking a absolutist approach and as such its futile to try and convince you as you can't be convinced through logic and rationality. Continue to fuck your dog, just know you are sick and someone should call animal services on you.
Your still wrong and if you didn't have a mentality of a kindergartener. I would have probably argued with you. But you aren't smart at this topic. so please don't answer back.
