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It's not closed yet, but yes. The Gitmo torture prison should have never been built in the first place. It was & still is an abomination that flies in the face of the rule of law.
Guantanamo Bay is a necessity because if we close it and bring the terrorists here to OUR country then we will be giving them OUR rights for trying to kill us. The fact that a lot of them didnt do anything and are held there for no reason just gives them the reson once they are tried in our country as innocent, the reson to do something. If we close the prison and prove the terrorists innocent and let them go that'll just give them another chance to try and kill us again. They dont deserve our rights and privilages for trying to kill us anyways. Theyre there for terrorism and bad things anyways!
"Guantanamo Bay is a necessity because if we close it and bring the terrorists here to OUR country then we will be giving them OUR rights for trying to kill us."
Wrong...there are rules to war, and the USA has violated them by trying to house people in extra-judicial limbo in a place that was completely controlled by the USA in the first place. Many Gitmo detainees were tortured, and the vast majority of those that were detained there were released by the Bush Regime without ANY charges.
"The fact that a lot of them didnt do anything and are held there for no reason just gives them the reson once they are tried in our country as innocent, the reson to do something."
LOL...two wrongs don't make a right yanno. There's no doubt that some of the detainees that were wrongfully imprisoned by the Bush Regime at Gitmo & other illegal places were radicalized, but that's our fault...not the innocent prisoner's fault.
"They dont deserve our rights and privilages for trying to kill us anyways."
ALL humans have rights that cannot be denied by anyone!
"Theyre there for terrorism and bad things anyways!"
LOL...guilty until proven innocent eh?? That's NOT the American way!
That two wrongs don't make a right bullshit doesn't work when a bunch of terrorists are trying to kill you. If two wrongs don't make a right is the way we look at this situation then we won't have many americans left when all the terrorists are done with us. We have to scare the terrorists away from trying to kill us because right now they could be thinking "I want to die and the worst that happens is they kill me." We have make them say "I'm afraid of messing with them! They could put me somewhere and keep me alive but in pain. I better just stay in the Middle East and go about my own business." I'm not saying I want these guys to be tortured but when it's either that or getting 100 innocent Americans tortured because their building burned down and they are on fire, I'm choosing the terrorists.
If we reduce law enforcement or relax the penalties, and we will likely find ourselves staring at terrorists in the face again.
Sure, the best argument for the "good" side is "there are innocent people in guantanamo bay that were falsely accused"; and that makes sense. However, that is a mistake that is very uncommon and there are innocents in American prisons, too. And most importantly, that mistake is WAY better than having the mistake of letting another terrorist attack us again.
so if you were falsely imprisoned does that mean we should never let you out since you might try doing something about your illegitimate incarceration if released?
It is not closed yet but yes because we can't have these people in prisons without habeus corpus and due process. Even though they are terrorists and marked as enemy combatants, they should have a case at court.
Guantanamo Bay should be an example what happens to people who threaten in such inhumane ways. I don't think it's about striving to be better than our enemies. Rather, it's exposing them to what they intended to do to us.
No matter what a person has done there is no excuse for the sort of psychotic and more importantly illegal things that they did there.When we resort to torture and rape we are no better then the people we imprison. We have no right to break our own laws and standards. Sorry I meant the other side.
Our country has become so twisted, every American civil rights organization, perceives terrorists being tortured in Guantanamo as a violation of their human rights, but look at it this way, if we transferred them from Guantanamo and into the prison in Illinois, as the New York Times put it, "We will save $180 million dollars by closing Guantanamo." The vacant prison in Illinois is still going to cost tax-payer money to run, so in the end, we really will not save any money. And also, about how the prisoners are treated, yes I agree we should treat them humanely, but when they threaten America's safety, and succeed in hurting America, like back on the day the Twin Towers, were hit, and killed 3000 people, it's enough to agree, that these terrorists in Guantanamo should not be treated and given basic rights, when they have declared war against the United States, by acts of terror, and succeeded. I'm glad they have not closed down Guantanamo, because those terrorists deserve to live there and contemplate what horrible things they've done. They should be thankful we haven't slaughtered them for 9/11. Going back to how twisted our country is, we consider these poor terrorists are hurt, when we don't look at ourselves, and see that we do far worse, Abortion, killing innocent babies, is infinitely destructive then punishing, and delivering justice to those who deserve it. How about we send the doctors who perform abortions to Guantanamo? I wouldn't mind.
LMAO! What a complete & utter liar you really are! For the REAL facts on the completely bogus, Right-wing claim that sirius continues to make, despite being utterly schooled to the contrary, see here:
"LMAO! What a complete & utter liar you really are!"- im not sure what i lied about but okay.
"For the REAL facts on the completely bogus, Right-wing claim that sirius continues to make"- the real facts for your argument arent on there, but you may eventually put real facts there so its a good thing that you posted the link. Maybe eventually they can see real facts on your part.
"despite being utterly schooled to the contrary, see here:"- what happened to "pwned"? What is worse, being pwned or schooled? I need to know. Am i a noob too?
"You LOSE again moron!"- but you're the loser, how did i lose?
"Your blatant lies are on full display there for all to see, liar."- since i am aware that they are on display, why would i lie about lying? If there is evidence out there, why would i lie? Its because i dont lie.
"because you are blind to it, which makes it that much more funny...lol..."- so you are beating down a blind person? Thats sad.
"since i am aware that they are on display, why would i lie about lying?"
Ummmm, because you've also been proven to be about as ignorant on issue after issue as one person could be...ugh... Truly stupid people don't act logically, as your words & actions (continual lying for one) have shown.
So basically the only reason you have is that im ignorant? I just pointed out that other people could see my supposed lies but its just that im ignorant that i lie about lying. lol you are so dumb. You never support you argument. All you say is that im stupid or a republican and you think that justifies what you have to say.
