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 what do you think of islam ??? (19)

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what do you think of islam ???

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3 points

Many people in the modern day hold such hateful thoughts and propagandas against Islam , more particularly in the western world. With the enlightment age, Islam came to fit its principles and peaceful teachings to the very context of life of today, and it is rightfully of flexibility . Yet many people insist that Islam is an old-fashioned religion and violence-based.

MY Question therefore is that why is it so difficult to be critical and examine the issue more carefully rather than just throwing prejudices onto Muslims by labeling them all as terrorists or even as extremists without showing a bit of respect or concern ??

I therefore i argue that Islam can necessarily be manifested through Muslims , but Muslims are not all alike , they differ. Therefore Muslims' actions don't necessarily reflect or represent the true picture and very foundations of Islam. Thus, a distinction should sometimes be made between Islam as a religion AND Muslims as the followers of the religion . No body is ever infallible , we all make mistakes. Religion is not what motivates people to act wrongfully it is rather some people who abuse Islam, and they claim to do so in the name of god. The idea of religion after all is that of peace and love and mercy for human beings to be closer to god to get what they have been promised.

Please I urge you to think critically and be constructive

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yes indeed...allot of people have the wrong idea bout islam...many people say that islam is a religion that tells u to kill people and forces u to follow it or u'll go to hell...its a shame to know that many people think that of islam...when will islam be respected? its a religion based on peace and love why the hatred? will islam be accepted? i think that islam is a great religion...i know my religion and respect it..i know other religions and respect them too...

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Islam is a religion. Religion is, frankly, religion. That's all I think about it.

Now if this debate is for the purpose of producing political thoughts in relation to radical Islam, I have two words for you haters:

The. Crusades.

Now, white Christian anti-Islamic racists may kindly suck it.

MrObvious(45) Disputed
0 points

I can sum up the Christian vs. Islam debate quite easily.

Jesus Christ is to Christianity as Mohammed is to Islam. I am going to assume you agree.

Jesus is the example of a perfect Christian as Mohammed is supposed to be the perfect example of how a Muslim is to live.

Let us examine these two men;

Mohammed murdered many in the name of Islam; Islamic crusades. He also encouraged the murder of those who refused to convert.

Jesus never condoned the murder of anyone, it's quite the contrary. Take John 8:1-11, the Pharisees brought an adulteress to Jesus to test him. The law of the time was that that was an offense punishable by stoning. Jesus said to the Pharisees, let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

Do Christians have a bloody history? Of course, the Christian crusades were in response to the Islamic crusades. However, that was lead by men, not Jesus. You cannot label an entire worldview based upon the acts of men. Mohammed started Islam, the Quran is HIS revelation and Islam most certainly condones violence.

Trudistian(99) Disputed
1 point

Christianity condones violence ALL OVER in the old testament. Or does that part not matter anymore?

What do I think of Islam? That is a negative part of the world, along side Christianity. I think that by its foundation it was supposed to be the most accepting religion, but by being twisted as religion tends to do it has become perhaps the least accepting.

Now to quote the debate maker.

"Many people in the modern day hold such hateful thoughts and propagandas against Islam"

While most hate of Islam is irrational, if people actually looked at the problems they would still have much to hate. Only with reason this time.

" , more particularly in the western world"

Because Islam conflicts with many habits and societal practices in the western world.

"With the enlightment age"

The "enlightened" age of Islam ended close to a couple hundred years ago.

"Islam came to fit its principles and peaceful teachings to the very context of life of today, and it is rightfully of flexibility."

Blah blah blah Islam is a religion of peace yada yada yada. Again by its foundation Islam is a respectful system with many well meaning practices. But Islam as it exists today as a source propagation. If you are a follower of Islam in the western world, you are in constant conflict with what society dictates and what Islam dictates. And since religion is designed to make its followers dependent on it, people tend to lean on their religion, and that causes problems. What people perceive as lawful and what they perceive as correct become stretched out and judgments are made on the bases of religion.

" Yet many people insist that Islam is an old-fashioned religion and violence-based."

And they have a good argument for it.

"MY Question therefore is that why is it so difficult to be critical and examine the issue more carefully"

People are too stupid to do that. Duh.

" rather than just throwing prejudices onto Muslims by labeling them all as terrorists or even as extremists without showing a bit of respect or concern ??"

Equally prejudice assumptions are made by Muslims across the world. People hate people. Fact of life.

"Therefore Muslims' actions don't necessarily reflect or represent the true picture and very foundations of Islam."

If the foundations of Islam were actually being fulfilled, the countries that accept it as their main religion wouldn't be in such a shit state.

"The idea of religion after all is that of peace and love and mercy for human beings to be closer to god to get what they have been promised."

Oh I could go on for years on that statement, but I won't.

Side: It Sucks Just Like The Rest

The problem is that you can't just up and hate everyone religious for being religious. Mathematical probability would have a vast number of religious people be fantastic people. Hell, the Pope is even a nice guy, despite people ignorantly claiming he's a Nazi just because he was forced into the Hitler Youth.

I don't back up all religion and all it's practices, but I have to admit, some of them are damn nice. Especially some Mormons. And Buddhists.

Side: It Sucks Just Like The Rest
1 point

"you can't just up and hate everyone religious for being religious"

I don't necessarily hate people(unless provoked to) I just hate religion with a deep passion that would make hell(if it were to exist) look like a candle.

Side: It Sucks Just Like The Rest
1 point

I think that Islam in its purest form is meant to help guide people into living the best life they can, just like Christianity or Taoism. I'm Catholic and I don't hate Muslims because NOT ALL MUSLIMS ARE BAD. In fact, most of them are probably just normal people like you and me, trying to make a living and being the best person they can be. This is a little known fact, but "God" and "Allah" are actually the same being. There is no difference. The difference begins at Jesus and Mohammed and then extends to small differences here and there. The only problem I have with Islam is radical Islam. Then again, even some of us Catholics are guilty of being radicals at one point in time. What can I say? Different groups from different religions all have their faults here and there. That's life.

Side: It Sucks Just Like The Rest
MrObvious(45) Disputed
1 point

"but "God" and "Allah" are actually the same being"

Not so. If you dig deep, deep; you will find that Allah is actually the Arab pagan moon god, hence the crescent moon that is prevalent in Islamic countries.

The story goes like this; Muhammed had a hard time convincing his fellow Arabs to take on a monotheistic worldview. The Arabs had many gods they prayed to and worshiped. Muhammed told them that they didn't have to give up their other lesser gods but that they would just worship Allah (their moon god) as the greatest of all gods. Hence Allah Akbar translates to Allah is the greatest, not Allah is great.

Side: It Sucks Just Like The Rest
Trudistian(99) Disputed
2 points

Yes, and that the sacrament, burial in a rock tomb and virgin birth are all pagan concepts too.

Side: It Sucks Just Like The Rest

On its own it is a religion, nothing more nothing less. However like most religions people misconstrue its teachings giving me opinions on the people but not the religion itself.

Side: I don't
1 point

jesus said sell your clothes and buy swords he also said and bring him hither before me and sleigh him and in other versions he states and bring him here in front of me and chop him into pieces

Side: I don't

I do not like Sharia Law that calls for the execution of homosexuals.

Side: I don't

I do not approve of Sharia Law that calls for the execution of homosexuals.

Side: I don't
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chatturgha(1630) Disputed
3 points

Then apparently you have not read the Quran, or the Bible. Both of these holy books say that stoning is an acceptable punishment for working on the Sabath. Unless you're not a Christian or Jew, how exactly does the Quran not reflect the same ethics or morals that are yours?

Side: I don't