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what is valuable to a culture

the three main options here would be art, knowledge, or people (moral obligations aside)

please keep objective to the culture, and not to morality

 

a little backstory:

i played something recently out of a beautiful game called the talos principle, and throughout it it demands an answer to the question of what is precious. at one point it places you in a scenario where a beyond fictional version of atlantis is sinking and you must make the choice of what to put on the ships to rescue and bring to shore. the options were the same three i listed above, in the form of a artwork, a machine or people. you choose one of these, you sail a ship with just one of these three present, the rest is lost to the sea.

 

i believe art is supposed to represent the achievements of a culture, something the game stated as the city being built of the bones of the dead.

knowledge would be a more practical version of art, with an identical share of representation of achievement.

as for people, art and knowledge are only relevent whatsoever due to them, and it could be argued that people could simply produce new art and knowledge, but that still means abandoning that achieved by previous people, and what makes that any more or less valuable?

 

essentially i think the real question is what is a city made of? (again, leave your morality at the door, thank you)

which would you load onto the boat?

 

 

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Whilst people need "things" to remind them of who they are and give life to their memories wherever we are we create anew and that is the real value of culture. Possessions are never as valuable as people.

What you describe are the creative trappings of a culture whereas what is valuable to a culture is the language, ideas, stories, customs and beliefs that are handed down from generation to generation.

People carry their culture with them wherever they are, that which is within the people themselves.

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All the possessions and all the people of a culture are self-detrimental without righteousness. The OP "leave your morality at the door" attitude will tear a culture to pieces gradually if it does not fall suddenly.

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If that mentality is increasingly pervasive, as you seem to think it is, what is your explanation as to why global violence is down, STI rates are down, drug abuse is down, poverty is down, education is up, etc?

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Here is what I would load on the ship:

A DVD player with plenty of home movies depicting life in the city with the museums

A pure gold coin from one of the US mints

Some CDs with various music genres

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This seems rather self-apparent: people. Without people there can be no culture because culture is a manifestation of people.

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help to others and think positive prefer for kind and trust control negative thoughts and feelings like a good quality of person in the society Responsibility to the society and respect all humans adjustment and helpful behaviors like cultural is the most important thing and Royalty