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 who is destroying america? liberals or conservatives? (28)

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who is destroying america? liberals or conservatives?

what and why do you support your view, have some concert proof to persuade the others. who is and has done more harm, the blues or reds.

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4 points

i believe the liberals have done more harm, ill say why if i get a good person to disagree with me.

Side: Liberals
MisterWrite(10) Disputed
3 points

I'm your Huckleberry.

Conservatism is entrenched in the past. It gets its "values" from religion - that festival of me-tooism and unsubstantiated belief - and from things people instinctively fear, which are said to be God-given fears: gays, government, Jews, whatever.

Liberalism points to the future. It paints a "pie in the sky" picture where people have outgrown their childish hatreds and learned to respect and get along with one another.

Neither system works, because both ignore reality. Conservatives like to pretend that the working poor and mixed motives don't exist; liberals like to pretend that conservatives don't exist - or at least won't, for long.

But the political party for conservatives, the Republican Party, truly has morphed into the party of "no." "Yes" is better than "no", because "yes" at least implies growth. The only growth that conservatives support is in the contents of a rich white man's wallet. Left unchecked, the conservative impulse will lead inevitably to food riots and race war.

Therefore, conservatives are doing more to destroy America.

Side: food riots race war
3 points

Both sides love America and want to improve it in different areas. Sometimes, they are wrong and other times they are right. Neither of them are "destroying America".

Side: Neither
2 points

ya a argument. i believe they are doing more harm to America then should be allowed. i understand political differences, but liberals are taking things to the extreme in a bad way. they have clouded the Iraq war and caused it to be a stalemate. they have tried for years with out success to impose socialism and sometimes Communism, they have tried to shut up Christin beliefs and replace them with Islamic ones, and have openly embraced terrorist,Afrat is one of them, and choose to make are soldiers look bad on many occasions( the most common one was the Vietnam war where are news shows backstabed are men with the liberal media to look like we lost, when we really did not) . and also seem to think that we live in a lala world. i know not all of the liberals are, but i speak for past events and current ones that liberals have done and tried to do. the only liberal i respect is the one who agrees that their ideology has done more harm then good on many occasions , and wants to change that.

Side: Liberals
2 points

It's so true. We liberals are all about replacing Mister Rogers with Mullah Omar.

Why oh why are all the least informed opinions on here the most religious ones? Is Jesus making us dumb?

Wait, don't answer that. I don't want to know.

Side: religiosity
2 points

No doubt about who is ruining this country. It's liberals. We have to be "fair" to everybody whether they deserve it or not. Liberals want everyone to get stuff for free through food stamps, welfare etc. Liberals want to destroy the very last shred of morality in this country. Now we can abort a baby for any reason. They have to try to shove "marriage equality" down our throats when clearly the majority of Americans are against it. We have to take God out of everything and be "open minded" when it comes to anything liberals want. Enough is enough. I will not sit by and watch Obama and all his blind followers destroy this country. Liberals think it's bad to be rich even though someone like Romney worked hard to achieve what he has versus getting it handed to you based on skin color.

Side: religiosity
2 points

It is conservafuck idiocy that is screwing up the country, blaming liberals is not a necessity.

Side: religiosity
1 point

Liberals.. I hate them.

Republicans get things right when it comes to things in the house, schools, community etc. but when it comes to the economy its all about left-wing ideas.

Side: Liberals
MisterGuy(1) Disputed
3 points

"Republicans get things right when it comes to things in the house, schools, community etc. but when it comes to the economy its all about left-wing ideas."

Ummmm, since when has the GOP done anything "good" for our schools?? Adding a HUGE unfunded mandate ("No Child Left Behind") which was based on bogus studies from TX didn't do anything good. Advocating for school vouchers which take away funding from schools that need it the most does nothing good. I don't see much progress being made on our schools from the Right.

Side: Neither
Kinda(1649) Disputed
0 points

Hmm...

Well my knowledge in the school systems in America is shite.

So iunno. I mean in terms of right-wing policies.

Side: Neither
1 point

wait one of you think liberals have only made the gov smaller? let me tell you something. right now liberals are agreeing with every thing obama dishes out, and its about increasing gov size. socialism, his secret detective force. a union-ship with Mexico and Canada, and also a joint government with numerous European nations. also liberals have been trying to pass things like the fairness act. that will increase government involvement.

Side: Liberals
MisterGuy(1) Disputed
2 points

"wait one of you think liberals have only made the gov smaller?"

Yes, I do, and here's some actual proof:

"Lower Federal Government Spending: After increasing under the previous two administrations, federal government spending as a share of the economy has been cut from 22.2 percent in 1992 to 18 percent in 2000—the lowest level since 1966." (under Clinton)

http://clinton5.nara.gov/WH/Accomplishments/eightyears-03.html

"his secret detective force."

LOL...did you know that Obama has had many, many times more threats against him than normal??

"President Obama faces an increase of 400% in death threats a day"

http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/president-obama-faces-increase-400-deat

"a union-ship with Mexico and Canada, and also a joint government with numerous European nations."

Sheer nonsense.

"also liberals have been trying to pass things like the fairness act."

No, they really haven't. What specific moves have they supposedly made so far?? I see none, period.

Side: Neither
1 point

Both are. That is why I am a centrist .

Side: Neither
1 point

Frankly neither extreme wins.

Conservatives generally have a better grasp of the economy, but swing too far in their laissez faire attitude toward government rules. They choose to ignore their laissez faire attitudes when it comes to social issues.

Liberals have some good ideas for the social welfare and wellbeing of some of its citizens, but swing to far to favor of what they feel are the helpless poor, thus putting more pressure on the middle class through taxes.

Side: Neither

Anyone who supports a form of authoritarianism, be it from the state or from corporations, is destroying civilization. And that means both liberals and conservatives, but liberals are the lesser of two evils.

Side: Neither

Most of the Conservatives are obstructionists to any legislation that President Obama wants.

Side: Neither

In my opinion, it would be the majority of Conservatives since they want to move America backwards.

Side: Neither

Both of them are!

They are both leading to totalitarianism.

Side: Both
0 points

liberals side with the Democrats. liberals believe in a big central active gov with equal rights on all levels, most leftist prefer socialism or communism. conservatives believe in small central gov and place a high value on individual rights and liberty, they prefer democracy and capitalism. so i hope this answers your question.

Side: Liberals
-1 points

Liberals are spending like crazy, growing the government like crazy, and I see no end in site.

They are pushing for a socialized state, and if we don't start learning from the past, we are all doomed. Right before Rome fell, it was basically a total socialistic state. The government even provided their entertainment, and we all know what happened soon after that.

If guns are then banned, and the government goes crazy, we are all screwed.

My biggest fear: will it be possible to reverse big government, and socialism, and soon to be health care? Have you ever herd of Government getting smaller? Never!

Side: Liberals
MisterGuy(1) Disputed
1 point

"Liberals are spending like crazy, growing the government like crazy, and I see no end in site."

In recent history, the only Presidents that have EVER reduced the size of govt. or balanced the federal budget have been Dems. Also, our recent federal budget deficit can be traced directly back to the Bush Tax Cuts for the rich.

"Right before Rome fell, it was basically a total socialistic state."

No, it wasn't, and you've offered ZERO proof that it was, period.

"If guns are then banned, and the government goes crazy, we are all screwed."

No one is out to "ban guns"...wake up...

"Have you ever herd of Government getting smaller?"

Under Democratic leadership, yes!

Side: Neither
mcquiggin(5) Disputed
1 point

Debt: And It can also be traced back to Crazy spending. I will agree, Bush spent like a Dem, and taxed like a Republican. Still 12 Trillion in Debt?

Rome:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4188/is_20080619/ai_n26688335/

Also, I remember discussing it in History class.

Guns: Ok, highly unlikely, but still.

Dems and Gvt Size: Proof please?

Side: Neither
Sitara(11080) Disputed
1 point

Conservatives are just as bad. Both sides are currupt .

Side: Neither