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Israel would win because they have a good army and they have a lot of technology and also they have God on there side because Israel is God's holy city. They also have a pretty good weapons system. GO ISRAEL!
" they have God on there side because Israel is God's holy city"
Please me friend try to realise what you're saying, first of all Isreal is a country not a city, secondly you are simply repeating the fundamentalism you have been indoctrinated with like a parot since birth, third of all of no country is God's country, the very notion is ridiculous,. Answer me this,; does God have a favourite country? If yes then he doesn't love everyone equally, right? That doesn't sound right, does it?
Try and form your own opinions based on factual information, search the web, find a source of info. you think you can trust (nothing american or control by coporate power).
You have misinterpreted the quote, you see when he says holy city he assumes you would recognise that as being Jerusalem, the quote is read as follows;
you who call yourself citizens of the holy city (Jerusalem), and rely on the God of Isreal - the LORD Almighty is his name
-Notice the comma which separates each point, the first point references citizens of the city of Jerusalem, the second Isreal itself.
There has never been a city called Isreal, not least a city of any real religious signifcance but you would know that if you could think for yourself, try to free your mind, you're on a debate website, be open minded in the way you think, try to really think about other peoples arguments, you don't have to accpet them but give them a chance.
What a pat answer for a liberal and Jew hater. I am so sick of people like you who always use the line...."indoctrinated" as their come back to anything religious. And you aren't indoctrinated? And you have all the answers?
Any moron knows Israel is not a city and a country. I am sure the poster meant...Jerusalem the city.
If he is a parrot then you are a vulture.
Israel is Gods country. Anyone who has read the bible or done any sort of studying knows that. Jews were called to be a light to the nations and to spread Gods love around the world....they are a divinely chosen people.
If a country is not Christian its because of humanists like yourself who just live according to your own moral code...which amounts to..."do whatever you want, everything is moral".
Try to get educated on this. You don't have the Holy Spirit but you do have a computer.
And who said God loves everyone?
God loves the world generally...as in his giving the earth for our use...the oceans, the rain, the sun...etc. because He created everything. Gods intimate love however is with His sheep the believers. John 10:14 says, "I am the good shepherd and know my sheep and am known of mine. As the Father knoweth me even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep."
John 3:36 says, "He that believeth on the Son hath everylasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him."
He gave His life that all might have salvation, this was an act of love for all mankind...however He loves those that beleiveth in Him. God does not hate his creation, He hates sin.
Favorite country? There are believers all over the world. Believers who live in secular humanistic cultures. It does not matter whether He loves any nation......His wrath will not be hidden and there will be justice in the end...not only for people but for nations.
"The LORD your God has chosen you to be a people for his own possession, out of all the peoples that are on the face of the earth" (Deuteronomy 7:6).
So for those that hate Jews today, who want Israel banished from the earth like the Muslims pray will happen who are working tirelessly for that to happen...the idea that God has a special relationship with the nation of Israel does not appeal to them. Anti semitism is alive and well.
And today for many people everything has to be equal...God loves us all the same...all the nations the same.....equal rights etc etc. So for them God would never show favor for one and not another. But He has....and its Israel that little country between two massive continents....tiny Isreal the David against the Goliath of hatred all around them.
I would say in a war....Israel would win in every situation, I think they are standing their own quite well.
If a country is not Christian its because of humanists like yourself who just live according to your own moral code...which amounts to..."do whatever you want, everything is moral"
Is this your interpretation, because I have listened to quite a few humanists, and none of them have said anything along those lines. Both Utilitarianism and Consequentialism are moral philosophies that don't rely on religious doctrine. You should do some research on these topics it would greatly benefit your arguments.
"Act utilitarianism states that, when faced with a choice, we must first consider the likely consequences of potential actions and, from that, choose to do what we believe will generate the most pleasure.'
That is self serving. Pleasure can be destructive especially if your on the end that isn't pleasurable. This does not take others into consideration at all. This is do what you want to do....as long as it feels good.
What a worldview. Morals are relative....to the one looking at it. Peter Singer the idiot who thinks that animals are on the same moral level as humans hold to this worldview. He is a nutcase. And I do know and have read about both these worldviews. If our country considers athiesm to be a religion...then both these can be as well. It takes faith to believe either one of them.
Both these are religious doctrines. One does not need God to worship something in Gods place.
"What a pat answer for a liberal and Jew hater. I am so sick of people like you who always use the line...."indoctrinated" as their come back to anything religious"
Please if you're going to debate me try to show me some respect, being nice is free you know.
"And you aren't indoctrinated?"
Yes but i don't beleive i am as indoctrinated as you.
"And you have all the answers?"
NO, nobody has all the answers, in fact very fw people have any answers at all, but there woudln't any answers without questions.
"Any moron knows Israel is not a city and a country"
"Jews were called to be a light to the nations and to spread Gods love around the world....they are a divinely chosen people."
Again what exactly in your ehad makes this so, i mean you can say it but really the only truth it has is the truth you imbue it with by beleiving in it.
I was merely correcting a young Christian boy who wasn't aware of that.
"If he is a parrot then you are a vulture."
You misunderstand me, i was like him one time as well, i re-iterated what i was told to beleive, then i learned to think for myself, i went to semenary to be educated, i have grown up in one of the most religious societies in the western world so please try to conceal your hatred, and try to remain dignified.
"Israel is Gods country."
How? How is it God's country, what exactly made it God's country, the fact that some man who lived there wrote it in a book clled the bible, really? Should that be the only criterion for establishing truth?
"Anyone who has read the bible or done any sort of studying knows that."
I have read the bible (well most of the old testament), and i don't know that, probably because i have read otehr books as well, and don't beleive everything i read.
"If a country is not Christian its because of humanists like yourself who just live according to your own moral code...which amounts to..."do whatever you want, everything is moral"."
So you think i advocate the principle ..."do whatever you want, everything is moral". Again i must ask for little respect, if i sw you being brutalised i would come to your aid, i saw you suffering i would empathise, yes i have not acquird my morals from the bible, personally i beleive acquire your morals from the principle of doing onto other what you would liek to be done onto yourself is a much better way to live your life, and doesn't require me to revere a fictional character.
"Try to get educated on this. You don't have the Holy Spirit but you do have a computer."
I also have two mastes degrees, one in chemical and biolpharmaceutical engineering, and another in sustainable enrgy engineering so pelase don't tell me to go and educate myself, it makes you look very small minded.
"Gods intimate love however is with His sheep the believers"
So now there are lvels of love? In order to receive what you call intimate love you must be one of the flock so to speak. I was unaware of this, in fact this was never preched in mass when i was younger, are you sure this is correct because it's definitely not part of the catholic doctrine.
" It does not matter whether He loves any nation......His wrath will not be hidden and there will be justice in the end...not only for people but for nations."
So because i am a non-beleiver i am subject to his wrath, and thus i must burn in agony in hell for all enternity, is that right? Or perhaps i might makes it into purgatory for a millenia or two, and then join the rest of the beleivers.
"So for those that hate Jews today,"
Very few people hate Jews, lots of people hate the actions of country thats calls itself Isreal that is populated by settlers from europe, and the US, of which very few have any real connection in their blood line to the people that lvied there 3,000 years ago.
"who want Israel banished from the earth like the Muslims pray will happen who are working tirelessly for that to happen"
Sorry your mistaken not everyone is that hateful, all muslim countries (even Iran, and Hamas) have agreed to settle the conflict on the June 1967 borders, and have acknowledged the reality of isreal.
"the idea that God has a special relationship with the nation of Israel does not appeal to them"
God does not have a special relationship with anyone. Gods love is unconditional, and all encompassing, it has no favourites, no religion teachs that God prefers these people to that those people, the very notion is ridiculous, no priest would agree with.
Anyone that beleives God has a special place for them is even more deluded than those that beleive he exists as the bible portrays him/she/it.
"Anti semitism is alive and well."
Religious bigotry and racism is also alive and well and you're a perfect demonstration of that.
"God loves us all the same"
Well i was raised a catholic and this is what i was taught, does your religion teach somthing different cause if it does i don't think its even a religion, probably a cult.
"all the nations the same.....equal rights "
Yes because when you start thinking your better than other people it generally spreads to thinking it okey to kill them, steal from them, hurt them etc. etc.
Its called racism, and the crowning achievement of the 20th centiry was tackling this problem, but people like you are a testament to its persistence.
"So for them God would never show favor for one and not another. But He has"
Really when did he do that, did you get it on camera? Id very much like to inspect the evidence proving the above claim.
"I would say in a war....Israel would win in every situation, I think they are standing their own quite well."
There really is no hope for you unfortunately, ill try to focus my efforts on somebody willing to listen to reason.
How? How is it God's country, what exactly made it God's country, the fact that some man who lived there wrote it in a book called the bible, really? Should that be the only criterion for establishing truth?
Although this should read "Some men who lived there", it is actually a very good point. Of course the people living there would say that their nation is God's favorite. Since when has any monotheistic nation ever believed that God wasn't on their side in some conflict?
"Although this should read "Some men who lived there", "
If i wasn't referring to the entire was talking about the specific quotations from it but your right i shouldn't have written "man who lived there wrote it in a book called the bible" ;)
You went to seminary...heck Gary you can't even spell it right. LOL
You were correcting a Christian boy...eh. You, someone who hates Christians and people of faith....correcting someone who loves the Lord. And how did you do this? What Gary...we are supposed to be tolerant, but you agnostics don't?
I am not a stupid parrot Gary. I also have read the Word and done investigating concerning the reliability of the scriptures. I have made an educated decision concerning belief in God, Christ. I am doing nothing that you are not doing by rejecting God. You live your life by faith...you have to...you can't prove anything. So because you have nothing....you want to bash on someone who does. Where is YOUR tolerance and love? Instead you call someone a parrot and demean their faith, just because you live your life as a humanist, making up your own rules.
So you say you went to seminary...but you have not read the entire Old Testament. LOL Boy Gary, wow. Gee.....I would think reading both OT and NT would be a requirement for all those in attendance. No wonder you didn't finish.
Well two masters degrees...while impressive is nothing compared to believing and living for Christ in my opinion. For me Gary it is not about head knowledge but heart knowledge. Christ never had two masters degrees....and well....he is the most loved human being that ever lived. More people have followed Him than anyother.
I do not believe purgatory is scriptural. And yes God will pour out His wrath on unbelievers you should know this....especially if you went to seminary. Or don't they teach and read the scriptures there? Obviously not where you went. Was it a new age religious seminary or what?
Gary who won the war for that land in 1947? Are you saying that every country on earth who went to war for land should just give it back? Israel has won the land in every war they have fought? The United Nations with US backing made them a nation Gary. Tell me how do you think Arab nations have won their land? What nation on earth has not won land in wars? No Gary you hate Jews. Go read about the 6 day war.
You say very few people hate Jews? The entire Middle East hates Jews. LOL
You go ahead and converse with someone on your level Gary....because you obviously do not know scriptures...you admit you have not even read the Bible...sigh. You obviously do not know about the Koran either as it states that the infidel should be killed. To say that the Middle East loves and respects the Jews and wants to share the land is absolutely idiotic....you simply do not get it.
Its because you're only 14 that you think God is real, you'll soon have greater and greater doubts about his existence, i can assure as your mind deveopes you'll begin to see the cracks in your current beleif system
I was being very courteous actaully so please keep your ahte to yourself.
"You, someone who hates Christians and people of faith....correcting someone who loves the Lord"
Are you saying somone doesn't deserve to be corrected if they have faith? What are you even trying to say.
BTW i don't hate anyone with faith, i respect them all, my own mother is a devout catholic who goes to mass twice a week, you think i hate her because she beleives in her religion, gte a grip on yourself woman.
"What Gary...we are supposed to be tolerant, but you agnostics don't"
I am a panthiest actually, and im more tolerant than you will ever be, let me ask you a question do you have any gay, black, multi-cultural, or multi-racial, friends?
"I am not a stupid parrot Gary"
Could have fooled me.
"I also have read the Word and done investigating concerning the reliability of the scriptures"
Good for you.
" I have made an educated decision concerning belief in God, Christ"
So have i just in the opposite direction.
" I am doing nothing that you are not doing by rejecting God. You live your life by faith...you have to...you can't prove anything. So because you have nothing....you want to bash on someone who does"
Im sorry i am missing something here, i thought this was a debate where views could be exchanged, i don't recall being agressive to anyone except maybe you when you provoked me. Could you pelase demonstrate where exactly i did this bashing? And to who?
"Where is YOUR tolerance and love?"
I could ask you the very same quesiton.
"Instead you call someone a parrot and demean their faith"
I never called him a a parrot actually if you read it carefully so pelase don't try to say that i did, hes a human being and hes perfectly capable of critical thinking if he so wishes.
"LOL Boy Gary, wow. Gee.....I would think reading both OT and NT would be a requirement for all those in attendance."
I didn't go there to train a a priest you clod. There were priest being trained there, i was taught exclusively by priest and nuns we went on retreats every few months but we were there to educated witht he option of training to become a preist if we so wished, i declined.
"Well two masters degrees...while impressive is nothing compared to believing and living for Christ in my opinion."
Look i really don't care about education backrouds the only reason i said is because you quesitoned my academic integrity.
"And yes God will pour out His wrath on unbelievers you should know this....especially if you went to seminary."
I know it i just don't beleive it.
"Gary who won the war for that land in 1947?"
You really are twisted, do you think if Russia and China had backe the palestians and they had won i would be saying what your saying now? America backed the Jews as they were largely settlers from US and european shores, they were supplied witht eh beiigest military consigment in history in order to the win the war, if you beleive might = right fair enough, i personally beleive in fairness and equality.
"Are you saying that every country on earth who went to war for land should just give it back? "
Thats the law, it was made law because the human race nearly destroyed itself in WW2, and the most pragmatic among us realsied if it ever happens again mroe thna like some will let off a nuke, and then the entire worl will be irradiated, and all lving things except the cockroaches will live, but that what you want isn't it? You want a big war that will wipe out eh human race cause then you nutjobs can call it judgement day, and the rest of us will be left below to writhe in agony in the firey pit of hell, the problem is thats not what will actually happen you die just like the rest of us.
"The United Nations with US backing made them a nation Gary"
I know they have within the pre-1967 borders which they have repeatedly broken, Isreal is still expanding as we speak kicking poor famers of the land they have inhabited for centuries, they have instituted an aparthid regime in land that legally isn't theres, thats why its referred to as "occupied territory", and there insatiable lust for more land shows no sign of being quenched.
"No Gary you hate Jews. Go read about the 6 day war"
I know more about teh 6 day war than you and don't fucking try to smear your shit on me, im not a bigot, i give everyone a chance, in don't discriminate against anyone based on race religion or whatever, i do this crazy thing where i liten to them, and i assess their character as a human being, not as a Jew, not a muslim, not a black man, a asian man, a protestant man, im not like you, and i don't need validation to know that i have plenty of black friend, friend of different ethnicities (Vietnamese, South American Chinese & Indian), gay friends etc. etc. and i have always given the m the same treatment.
People like you try to drag everyone else down to your level cause then you can beat them with experience when they're on your level.
"You say very few people hate Jews? The entire Middle East hates Jews. LOL"
Im sorry you seem tio be makiing quite a serious error, repeat after me, the imperialsitic apartheid regime currently in place in the state of Isreal does not equate to Judaism.
Isreal's apratheid regime ≠ Judaism
"You go ahead and converse with someone on your level Gary....because you obviously do not know scriptures...you admit you have not even read the Bible...sigh"
Ive read enough of the old testament, gone to enough religious retreats, listened to neough priests at mass to have a fairly good idea of it so please try to show some respect, i know your practically incapable but you could at elast try.
"You obviously do not know about the Koran either as it states that the infidel should be killed."
The bible is all buny rabits and lolly pops you know.
"To say that the Middle East loves and respects the Jews and wants to share the land is absolutely idiotic....you simply do not get it."
Ya there must be a massive holy war right? Thats what you want right? I just don't get it, i want peace, i don't want WW3, im a fool.
The bible is a book written by men for men, if i write book and called the bible 2 except better, and then claim it proves the original wrong i have no more proof than you , can you not see that? I can say the words were written by God himself but it doesn't make it true as i can't prove that, and neother can you becaue the words weren't written by God, they were written by men, people called Mathew Luke, John etc.
They were not God merely people who claimed to be able to speak for him.
" where he put his peoplw"
God didn't physically put anyone there, again there is no evidence for this, there is alot of evidence to suggest that they simply migrated there from africa along with the rest of human species over the time span of human history.
First of all Iraq doesn't really have an army, they barely have a country, it is completely fragmented, and over 1.2 million Iraqis have died since the US invaded so theres no question about who would win, the question itself it quite stupid, i don't mean to offend but you really should think about these things.
Iraq is being controlled by a US puppet government, the US effectively control it by proxy, they are at the very elast a US protectorate in fact that dosen't go far enough. And the US won't leave Iraq until its of no longer value strategically, militarially, or economically-(i.e. oil completely drained)
Sorry it was aimed at srom1883 but sometimes the site sends it other involved in the debate also. The Iraqis police force are at best a corrupt rag-tag militia controlled by the puppet government that just about manages to keep the peace.
Iraqis police force are at best a corrupt rag-tag militia
For the most part this is true. They are very poorly trained, and many walk around with their Weapons off safe and their fingers on the trigger (very worrying). Although they do seem to be getting more organized as time goes on.
"Contrary to what many people believe, the Iraq war provided few advantages for the US oil industry. The diplomatic cables show that, in most cases, it was competitors to the Americans who often did better in the country."
I always amazed by the lengths you're willing to go to fool yourself.
Did you actually read and understand the article? Only 1 of 11 bids went to American contractors.
The subcontractors that the article talks about are well, this is what the article says: "subcontracts to drill for oil, build wells and refurbish old equipment."
It doesn't actually change the amount of oil that US companies control, it's basically just labor and equipment subcontracts. If you look at how much oil the U.S. has acquired since the Iraq war it wouldn't pay for the plane ticket over there for American forces when you consider how much petroleum/oil it requires just to sustain a fighting force.
I know the "It's for the Oil" is the GO-TO explanation for many people (conspiracy theorists), but it isn't supported by the reality of the situation. Economy wise and oil reserves wise, we would have been much better off if we didn't go into Iraq.
"I'm not going to say we went in for completely altruistic reasons,"
I pretty sure you suggested thuis to me in the past but i don't care enough to drag up the quotes.
" but to suggest we went in for the Oil is unsupported by the Facts"
No its not really. But you're right to an extent idon't beleive it was simply oil either , there were a multitude of imperislistic reasons for invading, you wanted to enforce your global hegemony. The giovernment knew after 9/11 they had carte blanche from the US people to invde whatever country they wished, and Iraq and Afghanistan were the lowest hanging fruit, this was admitted by ex-chief of staff to US Secretary of State Colin Powell i.e.
They invaded for strategic reasons related to maintaing and strengthen their unparalled influence in the ME, war is also hgihgly lucrative, and it all comes down to oil, cause oil = power, whoever controls the oil wields the power, this is an unescapable fact. If the the oil was in mongolia you'd see the same thing happening there.
"In fact, American drilling companies stand to make tens of billions of dollars from the new petroleum activity in Iraq long before any of the oil producers start seeing any returns on their investments"
"Did you actually read and understand the article"
Yes i did i.e. "Mr. Munton estimated that about half of the $150 billion the international majors are expected to invest at Iraqi oil fields over the next decade would go to drilling subcontractors — most of it to the big four operators, which all have ties to the Texas oil industry."
"Halliburton and Baker Hughes are based in Houston, as is the drilling unit of Schlumberger, which is based in Paris. Weatherford, though now incorporated in Switzerland, was founded in Texas and still has big operations there."
"“the results of the bid round should lay to rest the old canard that the U.S. intervened in Iraq to secure Iraqi oil for American companies.”
But Professor Klare said that the American officials who had advised the Iraqi government on its contracting decisions almost certainly expected American oil services companies to win a good portion of the business there, regardless who won the primary contracts.
“There’s no question that they would assume as much,” he said.
The American oil services companies, which have been in Iraq for years on contract with the United States occupation authorities and military, are expanding their presence even as the American military prepares to pull out.
For example, Halliburton, once led by former Vice President Dick Cheney, has 600 employees in Iraq today and said in a statement that it intended to hire several hundred more before the end of the year. “We continue to win significant contracts in Iraq, and are investing heavily in our infrastructure,” Halliburton said.
"
"While Baker and its American peers are poised to make significant profits from such work in Iraq, wafer-thin margins seem to await Lukoil and the other international oil producers — which include BP of Britain, CNPC of China, ENI of Italy and the Anglo-Dutch company Shell."
Why is that could it have anything to do with the arsenal you supplied them with? what about the 300 nukes they have for which they have been forced to sign up to no international agreement of non-proliferation, the west doesn't care that Isreal as nukes not because they won't use them but becayuse they know if they do it won't be on them, Iran doesn't even have nukes yet but there being threatened with sanctions, war, and are made sign up to agreement after agreement after argeement and have weapons inspectors go allover their country.
You the West really doesn't give a fuck is if Isreal drops a few nuclear missiles down in the heads of some porr defenseless arab country, they'll just make it look like the arab country had it coming for trying to maintain some semblanxce of power in their own part of the world, they know Isreal isn't going to use that nuclear capability to adversely affect their power. Just like the US is the only country to ever drop nuclear weapons on another im sure if they are ever used again it won't be those pescy"so called" terrorists that everyone in the west so afraid of.
Sorry america all ready made Iraq a parking lot, don't you remember, Iraq was one of the most developed coutnries in the ME prior to Gulf 1, they had one of most advanced infrastructure, best education and healthcare systems, and they were highly educated people, now the country is amoong the worst of the aforementioned, over 1.2 million inhabitants have been killed in combat operaitons since the 2004 invasion, another 2 milion (of which 500,000 were children) died due to the US and British impsoed sanctions between the end of Gulf 1 and the start of Gulf 2 which caused every memeber of the Un associated with the sanctions to resign claiming they amounted to genocide.
You see there can't be a modern country in the ME, they must all be primitive arabs, this is what the west wants, they don't want demoracy, they want dumb arans ruled by brutal dictators, thats why the US preforms coups on any coutnry that looks like it may become democratic, and installs brutal tyrants (like Saddam who they funded and aidded for many years before he went rouge) who sell their own people down the river. It makes me sick to my fucking stomach
Saddam Hussein was a US lap dog for most of his presidency, and he did nothing to deserve being invaded the second time.
"and Islamic extremism"
Iraq was one of the only secular societies in the muslim world before america invaded, now rabid islamic findamentalism flows thorugh the veins of the society, i think if you were thinking with your head instead of your heart your anger would be pionted more towards your own hime soil than some far away people who didn't do anything to deserve what you did to them.
Where did you get your facts on this Gary? Advanced infrastructures? Best education? You mean for men....most women could not attend schools, let alone drive a car. Health care good?
The reason the East can't get it together is because of Islam. It might be a religion of peace in democracies but certainly not in countries who rely on the religion as church and state. The East has itself to blame. Had we not stepped in and taken Sadam out...millions more of his own people would have gone through his shredders.
I am sure when Sadam killed his own people, beheaded them, burned them, pushed women and children to the front lines of the war and called them collateral damage........your stomach felt fine, right? That just did not bother you at all right? Did you also like BinLaden?
"You mean for men....most women could not attend schools, let alone drive a car."
I didn't say it was a utopia, the country was an aithoritarian dictatorial regime, and yes women were treated very badly, i don't condone that at all but it was a relatively secular society under Saddam, and the society was advancing.It may not have been perfect but for the majority in the country it was a paradise compared to what it is now, and over 3 million people have died as a direct result of US and British imperialism in that country from 1990-present.
"The reason the East can't get it together is because of Islam. "
im not saying you don't have a piont but that only tells half the story, maybe even less, if the arab spring has taught us one thing it is that the majority in these ocuntries want freedom, and that was prevented by tyrannical regimes put in place and propped up by the west (and others) with the worst offened (as usual) the US.
"The East has itself to blame. "
No it really doesn't, think about how many corrupt regimes american has supported and still support, you proivde them with the latest military technology to maintain power, and in turn you get their oil while the masses suffer greatly, nowhere is this more true than in Saudi Arabia, and Bahrain.
"Had we not stepped in and taken Sadam out...millions more of his own people would have gone through his shredders."
stop acting like you have the moral high ground, you amaze me, you have killed 1.2 million Iraqis and compltely devastarted the country, saddam would have been lucky to pull that one off miss. Also Saddam worst atrocities occured when he was George Bush Snr's bussim buddy, have you forgotten?
Do you think the US was unaware he was gasing kurds? For fucks sake the west provided the gas, can you not see your own hypocrisy?
"I am sure when Sadam killed his own people, beheaded them, burned them, pushed women and children to the front lines of the war and called them collateral damage........your stomach felt fine, right?"
Yep i lapped that shit up, nothing gets me off like innocent civilians being brutally murdered.
Ya definitely woooooo!!!!!!!! Hopefully they'll gas all the Palestians just like the Nazis did to them, i mean fair is fair, if the Jews got it done to them then they are allowed to do it to someone else. All those palestians encroaching on land that they claim is theirs, what right does any palestians have to that land, i mean the fact that they lived on it for thousands f years doesn't matter, Isreal are Gods chosen people, didn't you hear? They lived there 3000 yrs, or some other poeople called the Isrealites, the people the currently live there are mostly amercan and european Jews with no real blood connection to Isrealis of the bible but its their land, fuck all the arbas gas um, if they don't like nuke um, fucking upstarts getting angry cause we take all their resoruces and make them slaves, who do they think they are?
I'll admit I'm kind of a Jew-loving Christian Crusader about it, but the Muslims, especially the Imperial Turks, were horrible to Christians for centuries. The Muslims still do not like Christians, that's a fact.
Consider that the land in which they occupy is less in size than New Jersey, that their population is only around 6,000,000 that they have a total population: 95.4% literacy rate and the fact that they have about a 100% winning track record on the wars and conflicts they have fought……..I’d say they were doing ok.
They have survived against the huge numbers of the hostile nations that surround them and prospered while doing so.
They would never do what the Nazis did. To say so shows just how much of a Jew hater you are. The Palestinians have no right to land they lost in wars. As for their occupation....that is not justified or correct. Who cultivated that land? The Arabs? No. The Jews did.
"ve about a 100% winning track record on the wars and conflicts they have fought……..I’d say they were doing ok"
Ya with a "small little" helping hand from the Us along the way
"They have survived against the huge numbers of the hostile nations that surround them and prospered while doing so."
They are responsible for instigating most of those conflicts ill have you know.
"They would never do what the Nazis did. "
im not saying they'd gas palestians but that in no way excuses what they are currently doing, given the horror they suffered in WW2 you would think they wouldn't be so quick to doel out similar treatment to another race of people but what do you know.
"To say so shows just how much of a Jew hater you are. "
Just because someone doesn't like the fact that Isreal have set up an aparthied regime on illegally occupied land, and routinely kill palestian civilians it doesn't give you a right to call them a Jew hater.
"The Palestinians have no right to land they lost in wars."
Actually international law which the US ha signed up to says different, i know you don't think they do but the laws we have all agreed on says that they do so please stop saying that like its not just you wacked out nutjob opinion, because thats all it is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!