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When the raptures come and takes all the Christians up to heaven then you should start believing Him and then you will know that God wasn't dead and that he did rise from the dead.
The rapture was supposed to happen when Israel became a Nation, Israel has been a Nation for over half a century and still no Rapture. You're waiting for an event that is never going to happen. The rapture is a supernatural event, think about it when have you ever seen anything obviously supernatural ever occur? Why is the rest of history so devoid of the supernatural?
The rapture is going to happen sometime during our lives. It could happen in a blink of an eye. After the rapture occurs that antichrist is going to say that every everything is going to be fine when everything is not fine and then after that he is going to do a variety of things do the one world religon and where you can only believe in that religon. And also they are also going to have the mark of the beast. These things have't happened yet but will happen soon in our lifes
if you agree he is dead as the bible once said then you must agree with the entire bible therefore you belive he is coming back ps when the christians disappear please repent and know that god will forgive you but you onbly have seven years
i know many people who think its bs but all im asking is that if we dissapear that you ask for forgiveness and repent just promise that which is what i tell every atheist. i dont care if i win you over so long as you have promised
all im asking is that if we dissapear that you ask for forgiveness and repent just promise that which is what i tell every atheist. i dont care if i win you over so long as you have promised
Sure, if all the world's Christians inexplicably vanish, I'll repent. I'm not going to hold my breathe that's for certain.
Ignoring that the bible is utter bunk for a moment, plus ignoring revelations particularly is the rantings of some madman, and ignoring that the bible itself says you cannot know the time or means (though every few years one charlatan or another tricks a bunch of moronic christians into thinking he's figured it out), ignoring all that:
If it should so happen that, as according to the strictly protestant christian faith you are arguing from, that all sorts of evil could be forgiven, murder, rape, whatever, simply by really really really really loving jesus and saying sorry and meaning it, they would go to heaven forever and ever
meanwhile, an atheist who thinks the whole thing is bunk, but has never murdered, raped, etc, and is altogether a descent person, that descent person is going to hell.
And this rapture is the start of it all.
All powerful or not, if that is this god's idea of justice, I and any self-respecting human with an ounce of dignity and empathy should want nothing to do with him.
but you have broken commandments therfore sinned such as lieng and dont tell me you never get turned on by a hot girl ps thats adultry and also you were born with the sin of adam therefore you atomatically are a sinner plus jesus isnt a sinner because he was born of avirgin therefore no sin of adam aka sperm ps please help me construcively i am only 14 after all
Did the virgin mary give consent? Otherwise god's a virgin raper and guilty of fillicide.
Wait, if she consented to pregnancy without marriage isn't she a sinner?
Do you think dead beat dads should use the god defense? After all god didn't pay a penny of child support, perhaps they're closer to god than all than all those "josephs" actually taking care of their kids.
I'm sure there were plenty of women whose names translated loosely to Mary at that aproximate time in history and area on a map. I assure you every one of them fucked aproximately 9 months prior to popping out a kid.
Your presenting a solid argument based on the Christian doctrine, i can repsect that, but unfortunately i don't beleive a single word of it, i was around your age when i completely lost my faith, i wandered around agnostic for while clinging to the beleif that there really was a greater power who loved me and everyone else, adn that when i died i get to see everyone i loved again forever in paradise, but i knew by 14 this was complete hogwash, and it was my heart that was compelling em to cling to this superstition, i had long since realised it was entirely baseless.
There are many inconsistencies in the bible and if you start to read it with an open and rational mind you may begin to recognise them, for instance you haev referenced the concept of original sin, but this concept is contradicted in bible mutiple times e.g.
“Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not; for of such is the Kingdom of God…Verily I say unto you, whosoever shall not receive the Kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein.” Mark 10:14-15
This statement which was supposedly made by Jesus directly contradicts the idea of original sin, as he makes it clear that unless you are as “innocent” as a child, you can never inherit the Kingdom of Heaven. Yet he also says if you were a child you born of woman via the natural process of human reproduction you have original sin, can you not see the problem here?
There is nothing sinful about a woman giving birth, and thinking there is, is the real sin if there is one at all.
Look my friend i just piotned out one minor inconsistency, the bible is full to the brim with them, let me ask you this, do you beleive that dinosaurs existed?
Cause there pretty conspicuous by their absence from the bible, don't you think?
The man is dead. I'm sorry to say, but do you see any Mayan or Aztec prophets coming back from the dead and heralding in an apocalypse? No. That's because they were wrong. The Christian idea of their prophet coming back will be no different.
First of all WW3 might very well happen but there will be no next coming of Christ, Christ was a man, and because he was man he died, hes dead, hes not coming back, get over it.
first fox is reliable even if it has bias so do other news networks and second there are less misinterpretations in the bible than in any book its size
Fox is the most unreliable news network in the West, nobody who knows what real news is considers Fox anything more than a comedy station that should be ridiculed.
"it has bias so do other news networks"
Oh i know, real journalism no longers exists in america, and it hasn't for long time, eveything you read in your paper, or hear on CNN is biased half truth, or else completely untrue.
"and second there are less misinterpretations in the bible than in any book its size"
Look im not some militant athiest like so many others, i respect anyone with religion as long as they keep it to themselves, adn doesn't let interfere with anyone else life. If it enriches your life im happy for you but please don't try to enrich mine, i grew up in a very religious society, my mother is also deeply religious, and i was sent to a semenary (where they train priests) to be educated so i have been indoctrinated since i was born, and were it not for best friend killing himself in that same semenary, and my discovery of the joys of studying science i might well still believe some of the fairytale story they like to peddle to the masses.
I don't personally beleive that Jesus was the son of God, i beleive he was man who had reconciled his oppposites, you see the bible contains a lot of wisdom, this is what mot athiest don't like to admit, but the bible should not be taken literally. The bible is at ebst a series of metaphors masquerading as facts.
2012 is just the culmination of what the Book of Revelations describes. Obama will bankrupt the U.S. and OWS and the Tea Party will push us towards a revolution. The end result will be that we will not be able to wage war because we won't be able to afford it and because we will be too busy fighting among ourselves.
Then Iran, and the other Arab nations inspired by their Arab Spring, will realize that the stage is set for them to attack Israel. Even Turkey is pissed off at Israel.
But full Synchronicity will not be achieved with the Mayan calendar until December 21, 2012, which marks the end of a 5,126-year era.
This will cause us to miss the Annual Late J.C.'s B-Day celebration (i.e., X-mas). That's not when he was born but when we agreed to celebrate it. This will probably make Him angry enough to come back a second time (I'd be pissed too if they forgot to throw me a B-Day party). But when you consider what we did to Him last time he was here, I wouldn't be surprised if He's a no show.
Anyway, I hope that clears up a lot of misconceptions about 2012 ;)
BTW that's just me talking out my ass cause my mouth knows better ;)
"it speaks of the world in chaos after the treaty sighning of anti christ with israel and it speaks of 200 million people attacking israel
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I don't think this is exactly accurate, where did you hear this, or read it, can you provide me with a specific page in the bible were i might read this for myself?
Armageddon is the Hebrew name of a geographical location in Israel known as Megiddo. Megiddo is a hill which overlooks the Jezreel valley. It is here where, in the last days, Satan and the Antichrist will gather the world’s rulers for battle
Does it not worry you that there are so many variations, i mean which one do you consider to be authoritative?
Also, you claim the bible predicts that 200 million people will attack Isreal but all of these quotes speak in the past tense (i.e. was), are you saying the person who wrote it was writing from the future? Think about it.
There won't be a World war 3, because by the time everyone wants each other dead, there won't be enough food, oil, and resources to even get over to another country. And besides, Jesus isn't coming back, because he's not the son of god. He was just a nice guy with good ideas, and what he got in return for being nice was a good nailing to a tree.
You make a lot of debates that involve wars. Anyway, when Christ comes, so does the rapture. So who cares, the END IS COMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!
Jesus Christ has already returned because the Soviet Union is no more and International Communism is no longer a threat to Christianity. He is here, mankind just can't seem him yet, because of their refusal to accept the miracle of a free Russia.
No he didn't, that just makes no sense, a flying unicorn took me on a wonderful trip to candyland, and caramel mountain yesterday, see same amount of evidence to support my story as yours, zilch.
Im not intentionally trying to ridicule you here, im just tryin to make you see why what you are saying is as baseless as any cock and bull story i can fathom.
"the Soviet Union is no more and International Communism is no longer a threat to Christianity."
I don't even know where to begin with this.
"He is here, mankind just can't seem him yet"
Ya once scientists invent that Jesus-o-meter all our (secular humanists, athiests, etc.) faces will be red, sorry again im not intentionally ridiculing you its just thats an empty statement, can you not see that?
" because of their refusal to accept the miracle of a free Russia"
I think its best if i just don't respond to some of your comments, your only 14 and you've clearly got a good heart i don't want to say anything that might make you feel bad.
