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Yes, go America! No, America sucks.
Debate Score:75
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 Yes, go America! (30)
 
 No, America sucks. (19)
 
 The people not the politicians (8)
 
 Patriotism is irrational (4)
 
 I LOVE MY Country (2)

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Are you a patriot for America?

are you a patriot for America, or do you hate it?

if you don't like america or where its going, please explain so i can defend america against all the commies. dang you reds!


Yes, go America!

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No, America sucks.

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Arguments Tagged As: The people not the politicians [clear]
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I partially agree. I'm not a fan of Bush, but I got a little pissed off when Chavez went up in front of the UN and basically said Bush was the devil. There are lots of things to hate about Bush, but theatrical grandstanding is just stupid.

However, you should also realize that as the world's largest economy, our country effects practically every other country on the planet, so "our business" literally is "their" business. If the President decides not to regulate Wall Street for 8 years, and the market tanks, the markets in other countries tank as well.

So I don't fault people who valid complaints (as opposed to just wry satire) about our President or government.

344 days ago | Tagged As: The people not the politicians
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Rebuke is in order!

Hitler loved Germans who equated Germany with himself. Explain to me, and all who read your reply, why the government of the U.S. is the U.S.? You have spoken as though you only recognize the government. Does the government, which you so willingly deify, provide you with the welfare that the banks are receiving now?

If you were a German of the Nazi era you would have un-doubtedly loved Hitler while cursing everyone who bared true witness of his wickedness.

The U.S. was originally intended by our forefathers to supposedly be a nation of sovereign individuals and sovereign states. Why do you fail to recognize that the U.S. is not, in its current form, that which our forefathers intended?

You are playing the role of a blind person. When the blind lead the blind, shall they not both shall fall into the ditch?

Look! How can you be boastful of a country of men and women who sit back and watch their government, which they elected, deprive the future generations of the wealth of their labors for the benefit of banks, insurance companies, and ultra-rich CEOs?

Are your receiving a paycheck for such non-sense?

Are you aware that patriotism protects individuals from governments that are destructive of the purposes for which they were created?

Be a man in mind and put away your petulant pontifications!

Do I love America? No! I can only love individuals.

Demonstrate how it's possible to love a country.

Your position is absurd to say the least.

You affirmed that you are a patriot for government. That makes you a stooge and a pawn of the government. What is your pay scale?

344 days ago | Tagged As: The people not the politicians
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Please support with some evidence your justification for thinking they, politicians, have done a good job. For we can't rationally debate matters of subjectivity.

Your post is similar in principle to affirming that one person is prettier than another, although both have some blemishes of sorts.

Debates are centered around objectivity, not subjectivity.

343 days ago | Tagged As: The people not the politicians
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Pardon my rudeness.

I didn't intend to attack you, but rather the whole concept of the blind obedience and praise of the people of the U.S. towards their government.

344 days ago | Tagged As: The people not the politicians
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