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No. Yes.
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Can god be omniscient and omnipotent? Someone lied

All knowing and all powerfull?

No.

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Yes.

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I say no with a caveat. You can not be both omniscient and omnipotent without being omnipresent. To know all and do all, you must be all. There we go with that Trinity thing again. How can you know all without being every where?

In mathematical terms, a subset is always a part of the master set. Can God be all powerful and create an immovable object? The object would be immovable for all but He who created it. Is it truly immovable, yes to all who encounter it be He who created it. Being omnipresent would mean that the rock is apart of Him.

As a man, you can build a house that you yourself can not move under your own power. If you employ other methods to assist, you can then move the house. All powerful, all knowing and all present means you have all the power needed to do anything, including exceeding limitations, imagination and boundaries.

176 days ago | Tagged As: Consider This
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One way this can be true is if God is outside of the universe. To help you think about it, pretend that the universe is a computer simulation and that God is the nerd who's programming the simulation and watching it run.

It's not hard to imagine that she has built tools that allow her to pause, save, load, rewind and fast forward the simulation.

As such, she can know anything she wants about the simulation at any given stage, and she can edit any aspect of that simulation as well.

That places God outside of time (since time in that simulation is just one of many variables that can be arbitrarily tweaked), and makes her all-knowing and all-powerful, as far as that simulation is concerned, which happens to be all we know.

71 days ago | Tagged As: Consider This
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