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 An Elective War For Oil Is A War Crime (11)
 
 Torture is a war crime (11)
 
 war is a crime (6)
 
 yes (4)
 
 torture (2)
 
 Never have a battle of wits with unarmed (0)
 
 un a joke (0)
 
 war birds fly together (0)
 
 war of political correctness (0)
 
 concerning conflicts the UN is useless (-1)
 
 just a bad president (-1)
 
 Terrorist are enemy combatants (-1)
 
 Terrorist deserve to be tortured (-3)

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Are George Bush and Tony Blair guilty of war crimes?

This was originally a debate by JoeCavalry which unfortunately contained malformed characters, but I thought it was extremely interesting and deserved reposting (I also added Tony Blair).

Are George Bush, Tony Blair, and their respective administrations guilty of commiting war crimes?


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Arguments Tagged As: Torture is a war crime [clear]
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First, war crimes is defined as:

a crime (such as genocide or maltreatment of prisoners) committed during or in connection with war.

Second, yes, a strong case can be made that George Bush and Dick Cheney are ultimately responsible for the torture and murder of Iraqi prisoners, which resulted from policies that were approved by Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales, and Vice President Cheney himself.

Supporting Evidence: The Abu Ghraib Prison Photos (www.antiwar.com)
485 days ago | Tagged As: Torture is a war crime
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The Nazis tried that defence at the Nuremberg trials, and the Allies (the US, UK and Russia) found them guilty. Leaders have to be responsible for their country's actions. And for a comparison of the seriousness of the crimes committed by the Axis during the second world war, check out the trials as well as the Japanese soldiers that were executed by the Allies for water boarding.

The fact that our governments haven't stuck by/up held the principles and laws that they set after WWII is an insult to those who fought during that war and has eroded the value of any moral victories gained.

Our government's attitude and behaviour in this debacle is disgusting. And I think it's a crying shame that, even though they should, they will never be tried.

483 days ago | Tagged As: Torture is a war crime
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This sounds like quite a loophole, but it is "technically" true, unfortunately.

485 days ago | Tagged As: Torture is a war crime
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