The FBI turned down by the US government? You mean... those making decisions?

Ah, good ol' 1984 style. I make you quote me to make your point.

damn i'm good.

Well, thanks for pointing out that they did try but were turned down.

what's your point then?

They had info that people hated us... oh.

if someone punches you in the back, are you going to say "well, I really fucked up"?

The unfortunate thing is arguments like that bring up excuses to totally eliminate the fourth amendment.

that's bad. it's there for a reason.

The market is the people.

The government is the people.

The individuals are the people.

If people can't solve our problems, who can?

Is it better that we leave it in the hands of the individuals? Let the people decide on what energy THEY wish to use. Not just an elite few (government).

back to the insults. Just because I've actually challenged almost every fuckin' thing you've said, all of a sudden I'm dense and dishonest.

an elitist mentality.

I never said you supported the Patriot Act. IN FACT, I fuckin' said you DON'T. But that the bullshit you pull is the SAME FUCKIN' ARGUMENT that Conservatives pull.

It's ALL SPIN. The fact is, yes, mistakes can be made. But you don't really have any proof, first of all, that 9/11 was preventable. We were at a calm situation and then all of a sudden someone comes up behind us and kicks our knee out. to say that the FBI and military could have prevented this shit is a total slap in the face. Basically when a kid goes missing and Nancy Grace immediately goes after the parents for being total imbeciles.

Government politicians MAKE DECISIONS that fuck shit up. FBI and military RISK THEIR LIVES to keep us safe. That was the point I made in the first place. You started the spin by saying "LOL, THEY DROPPED THE BALL, STUPID MILITARY!!!!"

A terrorist attack on our soil is the government's fault, as you mentioned they "dropped the ball".

Well, if they had been spying on all of us this whole time (which is why the Patriot Act was passed), it could have "easily" been prevented.

Possibly, but at what cost? The cost of freedom.

I know you are against the Patriot Act since you are an obvious Democrat, but that statement you made is the exact same argument that Conservatives and Bush used to push the Patriot Act.

If you mean the FBI, Military and Police Force, sure. These are people risking their lives to keep this country safe.

People who work in the government to make decisions are usually incompetent morons.

I actually find it quite insulting to compare a politician with me.