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The society with no guns has five members that buy guns from the black market, they take over the society and create a dictatorship where the men are forced into slave labor camps and the women are sold as sex slaves.

Meanwhile the other society is fine they have had a few disputes with a bad apple or two but they were both resolved without the collapse of the society.

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coming back to the planet earth you must first accept that guns exist. If you ban them there will still be a black market, no matter if they are smuggled or made domestically. So the best solution is to regulate and make sure law abiding citizens can buy guns.

probama it would still happen you F*ing moron if they arent afraid of going to prison for killing people they definately wouldnt be afraid to get a gun illegaly.

Wrong! Last year 2.5 million people were saved by using a gun for self defense. I don't consider that "almost no cases where an innocent person has defended themselves."

Outlaw guns, then only outlaws will have guns.

Guns don't kill people, poeple kill people. The vast majority of people who commit gun crimes obtain their wepons illegally in the first place, so if guns are taken from the law abideing citizens, you'll have a situation where the outlaws will have guns and the sane people who should be allowed to have guns will be defenseless. also it shifts the balance of power in favor of the politicians instead of the citizenry. It's just one more step towards tyranny. This country started by shooting the poeple who tried to supress us. We can't allow our government to become the very thing we killed to escape from in the first place. Do you really want the politicians to have complete control of you lives?

Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Guns assist people.

One of the many reasons those men signed the Declaration of Independence.

Guns kill peope; just like spoons made Rosie O'Donnel fat.

Guns save lives! If we were to ban guns the only people that will have guns are the people we were trying to take them away from. People already are able to get guns illegally and will continue to if they are banned. I will always feel safer with a gun knowing that criminals can get guns illegally.

Banning guns will not make gun-related deaths decline substantially. The majority of gun buyers are law-abiding people who keep the guns for self defense. Guns used in street crimes, especially from gangs, are typically illegal. If guns are banned, the illegal street guns will still be circulated, but the innocent people will not be able to obtain a gun for self-defense.

For all of you who want guns to be illegal ask your self this what will our army do without guns. Oh I know they will spit at eachother. Its funny how quick people are to say lets make guns illegal because their bad are they really that bad last time i checked it takes two hands a finger and a willing PERSON to use it. Just like how ignorant people say pit bulls are a deadly dog and should all be extermanated well so are bear and lions and tigers. Its not the animal that was trained to kill people. People train dogs to kill People. Now if this were a math equation People added to Killing equalls People Killing People hence the saying guns dont kill people, people kill people. Tell me Im wrong and ill call you and idot there is no argument for that statement none. Ignorance is what makes stupid and somtimes i see too much of it. California is the best place for it.

pure genius!!!!!!!!

we need guns!! how else are we gonna shoot people that dont agree with us!!

I meant that I wanted guns to be kept in the right hands. I did not mean that I wanted guns to be banned.

Key word:

"in the wrong hands."

Yeah its possible for a maniac to get ahold of a gun, but its also possible for a maniac to get in the drivers seat of a car. (see my post)

Perhaps we should ban cars in America?

Guns are illegal in Chicago.

How do you explain Chicago having the highest homicide rate?

Don't worry... I'll wait.

Guns should be banned everywhere except America.

Not exactly disagreeing with your argument, but guns can also be used for personal safety. Not just for killing "little deer".

guns dont kill people, people kill people, from a gunsdont kill people i do corperation

"The british aren't going to invade, so we don't need to protect ourselves". So when an american enters you're home with intent to kill, are you going to defend yourself with a fork? I do agree that most burglary's that occur do not involve a murder or serious injury, but not all home invasion's are with the intent to remove your property. If I we're in the position to put my life on the line, or lose a television, I would rather lose the television. The question is whether this person is here to steal my property or harm me or my family. I would rather have the means to protect myself and my family. If we lived in a perfect world where we didn't have Poverty, Drugs and Poor Education, then maybe I could see youre point. The fact of the matter is we don't. When America gets to the point where I can go to sleep at night, or even go about my daily business and not worry, then I'll consider getting rid of my gun. Until then, we live in a dangerous world where people live outside the law and I feel safe knowing theres an amendment granting me the right to defend myself.

Guns don't kill people. People kill people. So you guys think that since guns kill people, we should ban those, right? Knives kill people too, should they be banned? We cut our meat with knives so no. We kill animals and eat their meat with guns so no we shouldn't ban guns.

If someone breaks into a home the homeowner almost always has the advantage. They know the layout of their house better than whoever is breaking in. when it comes to real-life applications the chances of you geting shot are way less than 50-50. Look it up

That is completely ridiculous. If guns were banned, people would get the elsewhere (ever heard of the black market???) and the law abiding citizens would be defenseless. And world peace??? There is no way that's possible right now no matter what you ban. Guns are not the only way violence is carried out. Do your research.

Way more people are killed each year by car crashes than by gun violence. Should we ban cars too?

Way more people are killed each year by car crashes than by gun violence. Should we ban cars too?

Banning guns wouldn't bring down gun violence significantly because people who are committing gun crimes are getting their guns illegally in the first place. And other countries that have banned guns have alot more variables to consider besides just banning guns alone. most other countries have a much tighter justice system that doesn't give any wiggle room for crimes in general let alone gun crimes.

Studies have shown (look at cities in Australia) that when you disarm a population crime rates go up because people no longer have the fear of people defending themselves.

So let me get this straight... Home invasions almost always means that they are just there for your stuff, that means that they are not going to rape your wife and daughter in front of you while you're tied to a chair then kill all 3 of you after they get their kicks then take your stuff? Uh, who's going to collect the insurance? Probably whoever is not at home durring that time I guess, or some other family members currently not living there right?

1,145 times a day handguns are used against robbers. 416 times each day women use their handguns to protect themselves from rapists. Overall, a gun in the home is 216 times more likely to be used in self defense than to cause the death of an innocent victim. And even if you don't own a gun, preserving the right of your neighbors to own them is one of the best ways to keep criminals out of your neighborhood.

ok so i think thtas the guns dont kill people kill the guns well they just happen to be in between the people

ever since we put registration on guns and making guns harder to get school shooting started. we need to allow students to carry concealed guns on campus. with the VT shooting if one student had been allowed to carry a gun on them the shooter would have ended it early and many people would still be alive today. it needs to be a law that we enforce to make every home have at least on gun to protect your self

If we outlaw guns that stuff will still happen because they are already illegally getting guns.

Should [citizen] guns be banned?

- hell no.

In an arguement made by T.S. Eggleston, if guns were banned, a black market would arise as well as gun smuggling. This in return would lead to an increase in crime and honestly, who wants more crime? He states that the citizens with no previous criminal records would surrender their guns to officials, leaving them helpless and at a higher risk for being injured.

Eggleston further explains that "Criminals will always continue to break the law and prey on the law-abiding but disarmed citizens."

For the previous arguements that claim "there are almost no cases where an innocent person has defended themselves with a gun."

Thats bull. According to Eggleston and other statistics, "every 13 seconds, an American uses a legal firearm in defense against a criminal."

So, for self-protection, guns should remain legal. It prevents overcrowding of prisons, riots, and decreases many injuries. In return health costs are not forced to sky-rocket.

To suit the people that believe guns should be completely illegal....I do feel that stricter laws need to be enforced to acquire such equipment.

According to the National Rifle Association (NRAILA), in the state of Texas, an individual does not need a permit to buy a hangun, and they are not required to carry registration or a license.

This lack of legislation is one of the main reasons for the decrease in gun safety, so if we fix this, Americans can be on their way to a happy, gun legal society.

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Well look at prohibtion in 1919 and on, also known as the Volstead act. Alcohol was completely banned yet everybody still drank. They found ways to drink. People had to brew underground, and drink in underground bars, but it happened. Even major Authorities including police and judges were found down there. The same things would happen with guns, and who would be the people to illegally own guns? Not harmless hunters, but gangsters and other criminals who are dangerous with such weapons. It is still going to happen. Maybe we just need tighter gun laws when purchasing them.

HUNTING AND SELF-DEFENSE, time to look past your little inner city cocoon. There is a big place called the rest of North America!

Just people kill people. Children would not wonder what a gun does if they are exposed to guns and people tell them the proper way to use them. Its the children who are shielded from guns that try to play with them and don't know what to do, that cause trouble.

Have you actually read the newspaper? There are several cases and some that a gun prevented them from being a dead victim. I speak from experience. As for the easy access of guns, criminals would have access to guns in the black market regardless if they banned guns. Cocaine is illegal but some how people still gain access to it...well, how does that happen?

No, firearms are simply made available for self-defense, the percentage of people that use them for other purposes is a very small one. Except in L.A. hehe

shut up you commie before i show you what a responsible gun owner can do!!! you#%&@%

Uhhh? You ever heard of a black market, the illegal selling,buying, and distribution of contraband (weapons,drugs) illegally?

No they shouldn't. If you take away the civilian's only right to self defense, how are they suppose to defend themselves from the criminals who buy weapons and drugs from the black market illegally. If you think homicide rates are high now, if gun control becomes active, that will sky rocket.

Oh, thats cool, I agree. Sorry bout that.

You can kill someone with a car, should cars be banned in america?

Guns dont kill people, people kill people. People sometimes kill other people innocently a lower percentage of the time but yes it is there. It is called self defense. If someone breaks into your house and you shoot and kill that man is that a bad thing? Also if it is not guns then it will be homemade bombs or just kitchen knives. It would be almost impossible to ban just like the alchohol ban the US gov tried. It wont work in the southern states I gurantee it. Most of the 16 year olds and higher that I KNOW own a gun . at least 25% of them. Which means that they are already toting illegaly so if they are already how is the gov gonna enforce it if they are already having KIDS slip under the radar?

no guns should not be baned in america and no we should not be able 2 carry fully automatic, but if a person tries to hurt you or your family unless you are a sharpshooter then a single shot wepon will not be good enough to protect you or your family. so a semi-automatic wepon can be good to have around the house.

as long as people who have guns use they responsibly they should never be banned

if a robber came in your house you would want a gun.

no if you have a guns license

FINALLY. Someone who pointed out that violent crimes in Europe ARE HIGHER. Good lord. Stop listening to propaganda. In fact BBC recently did a report on how crime has gotten worse.

Get y'alls head out of the sand. Europe's moving away from government intervention. Were moving toward it. Europe's starting to realize that gun control fails. Were moving towards it. Why do we not look across the pond and realize how much it sucks? High crime, and high unemployment.

Look at some European countries that banned guns. Guess what nothing has changed. If people want to kill they will and they will find a way to get a gun to do so! So you want to get rid of hunting, which is a trillion $ a year industry and if you ban guns millions of jobs would be lost. YOU THINK WE ARE IN A RECESSION NOW! You idiot!

Even if guns were banned poeple could still make there own guns.

I find your argument inadequate, circumstantial and irrelevant, comparing overall homicide rates to "gun related" deaths.

Chicago is 15 on the list because it's sorted alphabetically... :/

BTW, Hawaii's figures rival those of Chicago according to that same list.

Of course the lowest gun related deaths will be in the the states where guns are banned, duh.

Lowest bun not nonexistent.

DC's highest gun deaths per capita coincidences with the fact that guns are legal there, doesn't mean anywhere guns are legal crime rates will be high.

Plus the DC area has fewer population so the 'per capita' figure will naturally tend to be higher.

Still it does nothing to counter MBurke12's argument.

Shot guns are used for many different application a few of which are bird hunting like pheasant or ducks, they can also be used for trap and skeet shooting. Another thing shotguns have a maximum shot distance of 30 yards so they aren't that good of a weapon. Also semi-automatic weapons have various uses and when you are hunting fast animals you want to be able to take as many shots as possible without having to cock the gun. Another point is that a gun is a tool and the person is the one who kills someone not the gun. And it is now required to take firearm safety to purchase or use a gun and also 80% of guns used in crimes are bought illegally according to the FBI.

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