+ Mack : I love to have a friendly debate and I always love to see the other side of the argument. You do bring up good points. I would also like to say that green house gasses exist but are much more exaggerated by modern day politicians. I also would like to say that my points here aren’t to “disprove” climate change, but rather to show that it is a theory and should be treated as such. In my high school, anyone who challenges the climate change theory is ridiculed and talked about. They are looked at as deniers and etc. when all they have done is presented evidence refuting a widely accepted theory. When none of the other side is ever taught by teachers. Also not really a debate just a question; could the heating up if earth be due to the weakening of our magnetic field? Our magnetic field is weakening, most likely because the north and south are about to flip https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/earth-s-magnetic-field-flip-could-happen-sooner-than-expected/ ?

+Atrags first comment: Well if green houses play as big a role as modern politicians make it out to be, then yes that should play a major factor in the temperature of mars.

First off, I am happy to finally debate Someone that presents facts and backs them up. My first point is about mars though. Mars’s atmosphere is smaller than the earths, although the planet is also smaller (which is the reason it’s gravity can’t sustain a bigger atmosphere). The greenhouse gas idea still remains even with a smaller atmosphere. The atmosphere, of almost entirely co2, should still withhold heat, due to the greenhouse principle. Also, Venus is the much hotter than the earth, but this is due to many factors such as the fact that it is 26 million miles closer to the sun and that the atmosphere has a much higher pressure. In fact, that atmospheric pressure is 90 times that of earth’s!( http://nova.stanford.edu/projects/mod-x/ id-pres.html) ) Also, today, parts of the world are cooler than they used to be (look to this years record cold in the atlantic circle and Greenland). Back to the Roman warming period idea, it was only over Europe although the global temperature was jacked up due to the outlier. That could have been due to a zone of high pressure like that which caused California’s record highs. Although that does not discredit the idea because there are outliers today that could be caused from zones of high pressures, it all balances out. And your NASA evidence that there is a correlation in co2 and temperature had nothing to with he comparison, it merely stated that we are at record high uses of co2 which no one has questioned. Read my article, published by a man with high credentials in the climate and meteorology field.

+Quantumhead: First off, the first man presented facts with no backing. Secondly, my debate is not a red herring of any kind, I have not misrepresented any numbers to “cover up” the main problem. And Nature is the one doing this. You are correct hat climate change is happeneing but it has happened since the earth came to be. It was hotter than it is today during the Roman and medieval warming periods. Today, natural oscillation is being used as a political device to raise taxes. Were all those who denied global cooling also “deniers”. Present evidence you moron.

+Alofri that proves that climate change is human caused how? Was the 1970 conjecture about global cooling correct just because most scientists believed in it? Show me evidence not other people's opinions.

I hate how modern day liberals see climate change as a closed argument and refuse to see the other side. In some states such as California, kids are indoctrinated that global warming is solely human caused. Now, for this debate, I am in no way saying that pollution and fossil fuels are good or should be continually used. I am merely bringing up the point that climate change is not nearly as understood as modern day liberal politicians claim. For example, how could one say that this could not be natural oscillation when the roman warming period was on average, hotter than it is today. The medieval warming period was on average as hot as it is today. So how can one say that our fossil fuels are making the earth hotter. I gaurentee you that the romans and knights were not burning fossil fuels like we are today. Another topic is that mars's atmosphere is 98% co2 although it is on average MUCH colder than the earth. The last topic I would like to bring up for round one is that if you chart co2 emissions with the average world temperature, it appears that there is no correlation.